Disneyland 2016 Dining Update
The dining landscape is changing at Disneyland, much as it has changed in Florida. If you read our 2016 WDW Dining Update, much of this will probably sound redundant. In California, prices have also increased (10-15% on average for counter service), while in many cases portion sizes and quality have decreased.
While the price increases are a new thing of the last month or so, the quality and portion decrease has been a gradual trend, that is best illustrated by Flo’s V8 Cafe. As we discuss in our updated review of the restaurant, it went from having one of the best menus at Disneyland Resort to resting on its laurels and prime location by gutting and substantially downgrading its menu. The new menu features smaller and lower quality items across the board…all at higher prices.
Most menus haven’t seen the same gutting (although the switch to cardboard pizza from flatbreads at Boardwalk Pizza & Pasta and the removal of the only good vegetarian option anywhere ever from Hungry Bear Restaurant certainly were disappointments). More common are “only” price increases and portion size decreases. The same has occurred at table service restaurants, although we have less firsthand experience with those due to their prohibitive pricing and not much new of interest. (We haven’t even tried the iterations of River Belle Terrace in the last year, because reviews suggest that Disney is phoning it in with them.)
The biggest difference between the changes at Disneyland and Walt Disney World–for us at least–is how we’ll respond to them. Admittedly, what follows is an anecdote that probably won’t be all that relevant to the mostly-tourist demographic that reads this blog. Those of you planning vacations will probably dine at Disneyland just as you would have before: it’ll just cost a bit more and you might do more snacking. However, this blog has always been about our personal experiences, so I’d be remiss if I didn’t share.
Sarah’s sister was recently visiting us, and we spent 2 full days in the parks, which meant lunch and dinner in the parks (a rarity for us). Upon tallying up receipts for our meals at Disney California Adventure, I discovered we had spent nearly $60 on food for the 2 of us in 1 day. This was despite eating at counter service restaurants, and only ordering (free) water to drink. After we got home for the evening, we ate again. That’s a ridiculous amount to spend on fast food for the day, only to still be hungry at the end of the day. We could’ve eaten at In-N-Out like six times for the cost of those 2 meals! I’m drooling right now at the prospect of that many Double-Doubles…
This was a “moment of clarity” for us. Part of the dream of moving to California was feasting upon the fruit of the gods–Plaza Inn Fried Chicken–five nights per week. My dreams were quickly shattered when the reality of how much that would cost set in. Like so many of those who uproot themselves for the golden dreams of the Bear Republic, I was crushed, defeated, and chicken-less.
We eat at Disneyland’s restaurant’s from time to time, but unlike Walt Disney World, it’s not an integral part of our experience. We enjoy restaurants like Plaza Inn, French Market, Cove Bar, etc., but since we’re locals who visit the parks 2-3 times per month, we can easily eat before heading to the parks or after heading home. Or, on visits of longer duration, we can walk across the street and quickly eat off-site.
This latter part is why our personal anecdote is relevant–because it’s probably not so personal. Guests at both Walt Disney World and Disneyland can dine off-site. The practical reality is that as a “world” unto itself with a strong tourist demographic, off-site dining is far less likely to occur. That’s doubly so thanks to the pre-purchased Disney Dining Plan, meaning many guests are effectively paying twice if they choose to dine off-site (…or at any of those theme parks down the road).
By contrast, the real world sits just outside Disneyland’s Esplanade, and most guests have driven themselves to the parks from Los Angeles or Orange County. There’s also no Disney Dining Plan that creates a captive audience for the Disneyland restaurants. Of course, it’s easier for locals to dine on-site at Disneyland’s restaurants, but it’s also easier to hit that balking point when value no longer outweighs the inconvenience of dining off-site. As prices go up while portions and quality decrease, that tipping point comes closer.
We have hit that point. Whether it be a 10-minute walk to Pizza Press for delicious meal or a slightly longer walk to McDonald’s for a cheap guilty pleasure, these are better options that paying more while getting less in the parks. Since Disneyland restaurants aren’t as insulated from competition from Walt Disney World ones (in light of the above), I wonder whether the similar management philosophy, which seems to be in use on both coasts, is appropriate in both locations? Surely we aren’t the ones who have a lower threshold for balking at Disneyland restaurants as compared to Walt Disney World ones. Maybe I’m totally wrong in my speculation, but there has to be a breaking point.
We’ll still do meals in the parks here and there when there’s a special menu option or something that looks like a can’t miss, or when out of town friends are visiting, but otherwise, we’ll pass. Even before our “moment of clarity,” we had been eating on-site less. Special menus are still a great hook for us, and like all Disney-addicts, we can’t resist anything that’s Limited Edition.
This is part of the reason why we’re so excited about the upcoming Disney California Adventure Food & Wine Festival. I’ve been waiting for this to return since the Cars Land construction wrapped up, and I think it’s the perfect way for the park to showcase its (largely fading) California theme. We have discovered that the foodie scene in California is wonderful, and this should be a great way to showcase the state’s culinary diversity. We shudder to think about the prices and portion sizes during the special event, but we’d rather splurge on something special and unique like this, and skip a few other meals at Disneyland and Disney California Adventure to help offset what we spend.
Hope this isn’t too much of a downer. The good news, as mentioned above, is that it’s highly personal. Part of it is undoubtedly due to familiarity of being a local, and having more of a real-world mentality when visiting Disneyland. That’s on us, and something we do not feel at Walt Disney World.
Moreover, aside from a few missteps, the counter service options at Disneyland Resort are largely exceptional. If I were visiting once or twice per year, I would be dreaming of Little Red Wagon Corn Dogs, and ignoring that $18 price tag when ordering Plaza Inn Fried Chicken. I’d eat from the fountain of youth (a bowl of Lobster Nachos) while watching World of Color’s dancing fountains. There’s still a lot to love about Disneyland Resort’s dining scene, especially for casual vacationers. For those takin’ the 73 to the 5, getting off on the 405 to bypass the rush before getting back on the 5 via the 55, it’s like…too much.
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Your Thoughts
Do you agree or disagree with our assessment of the dining scene at Disneyland Resort? Think we’re jaded, or is that a fair look at how prices have continued to trend up while quality has not? Share any questions, opinions, or additional thoughts you have in the comments!
HI All, We will be taking our first trip to Disneyland, we are Disney World Veterans.
Any suggestions on table service dining? We will be there for 2 1/2 days Fri-Sun in July.
Thanks!
Tom – I couldn’t agree with you more about the $ increase and portion decrease. Just came back from DL this past March and noticed the Plaze Inn fried chicken tastes a little different and the chicken is smaller. We tried the crepes and Cafe Orleans and they’ve changed too – you get to 2 crepe rolls (like a small eggroll) and they wave some sauce on it. Why Disney? Why???? This and the park tix price hike. It’s like you want me stay away.
We were in Disneyland last Thanksgiving and they had people walking around asking questions about what we liked/did not like about the food at the park(s). Our personal favor to ask from them was to have more options for people with allergies. Our 3 year old has a gluten intolerance and a dairy allergy. This is no big deal at Disney World, but Disneyland as virtually NOTHING for him. Now if they could just be like Disney World in every way (food-wise), that would be great!
Did you try asking any of the food service cast members if they had anything that would fit your needs? When I’ve been in Disneyland with someone who is gluten intolerant, for instance, they’ve been able to request a special meal. I remember specifically that Pizza Port had rice noodles they could make as an alternative.
Avoid the I Hop across the street, took two kids there and it cost $70.00, guess who ate Mickey D’s for breakfast the rest of the week.
$70 for 3 people?! Did you order literally everything on the menu? That’s insane!
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We’ve done Disneyland about 20 times since I was born and we frequently eat lunch off site. Less than a mile down Katella Ave. is a myriad of fast food options. Especially when we were little kids this was a much better option for my family, being cheaper and kids are hard to please sometimes. Plus, mid-day breaks are very helpful and that’s a good excuse to take one. For dinner (or a big breakfast), you’re smack dab in the middle of Anaheim a quick Yelp search and something close by will pop up. I love Disney dining, but I totally agree it’s getting expensive and limited. We typically end up snacking, and only do lunch in the park if it’s a weekend trip (we’re from Sacramento).
I recently visited Disneyland for the first time ever last week and was also shocked at the prices! Obviously we fall into the other category you’ve mentioned, which are those people who are willing to pay that extra price based on a “it’s our first time” mindset. That being said, I was still surprised.
Also, the Matterhorn Macaroon (which I had to try per this blog) is now $2.99 and no longer the $1.99 I believe you’d said it was.
Disappointments abound.
Haha, compared with everything else, $3 for the Macaroon still isn’t that bad. (Unless someone from Disney is reading…in which case I refuse to pay more than $1.50 for it!)
“removal of the only good vegetarian option anywhere ever from Hungry Bear Restaurant”
Tom, do you mean that green tomato sandwich? If so, I’m very sad. That thing was delicious! 🙁
I figured he meant the green tomato sandwich, since it recently departed the Hungry Bear. However, it’s at Cafe Orleans now so there’s no real loss.
Now only double the cost and requires reservations. No loss at all! 😉
I hear what you’re saying. However, between the corn dogs, Plaza Inn chicken, Rancho cheese enchiladas, Royal Street chowder bowls, Cozy Cone chili cones, and soft serve ice cream, I’m seriously good to go for my DLR stay! Don’t become a jaded local, Tom. 🙂 Only 70 more sleeps until my SoCal feast…
There’s still amazing food in the parks (some of which you mentioned…although I’ll respectfully disagree on the chili cone!), it’s just that it costs a lot.
I’ve been wondering for a while where you moved from.
I’ve been following you for a while, and I must have missed when you moved to California. It was like you lived somewhere else, then suddenly you lived here.
I just take the 57 to ball road. That new In N Out on Ball is great for on the way home from the parks.
I do tend to stay in the parks to eat, once I’m in. Otherwise, I’m sticking it out until we leave. I don’t usually leave the park to eat and come back. Even if I eat in downtown Disney, it’s usually on the way in or out of the parks.
I never pay $$ to Disney to eat, so no clue, but dining outside the parks (even including DTD) is not so simple anymore. Bag checks have gotten much more thorough recently, so you can expect a sizeable wait to re-enter the esplenade in the afternoon or even – plus the lines to get into DLP or DCAP.
Oh yeah. If we do go out to eat, we make sure to do so off hours so we don’t have a huge line at bag check on the way back in!
Darn you Bricker, look at ticket to LAX to get a fix of Lobster Nachos.
Dang, so you’re looking at a ~$300 “fuel surcharge” for those Lobster Nachos? Eh, still worth it considering the years* they will add to your life.
*This statement has not been evaluated by a medical doctor and should not be relied upon…even though it’s probably true.