Disney World Announces New Decades for Carousel of Progress, as Sarah Takes Center Stage in Scene!

Walt Disney World has announced that Carousel of Progress is getting more than just a new Audio Animatronics introduction. The Magic Kingdom classic will receive a reimagining, featuring all-new show scenes and decades as part of a timeline shift forward. Here are official details about the changes, concept art, and our emotional roller coaster of reactions to this truly conflicting news.
During a recent media event at Walt Disney World, we had a chance to hear a presentation by leadership about how they reinvest in classic experiences, spending hundreds of millions of dollars each year in the parks & resorts. These efforts and expenditures are part of a broad effort to ensure existing experiences receive the care, to maintain the guest experience.
As part of that presentation, Michael Hundgen, Imagineering Portfolio Executive for Walt Disney World Resort revealed details about the future of Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress. He shared that the coming changes are more than a new introductory scene, but rather, this will be the fourth major update to the attraction in its history. Imagineers offered a behind-the-scenes look at the project with concept art for the new decades, research and prop sourcing being done for the update, and how the team is treating the reimagining with great reverence.
Hundgen explained how seriously Walt Disney Imagineering is taking the opportunity to go in and refresh something that is so quintessentially Disney, and viewed internally as original Parks IP. Their aim is to connect with new guests of the future, but also diehard Walt Disney World fans who already love and cherish the classic attraction.
He shared that the Imagineers who are working on the updates to Carousel of Progress are a phenomenal team, who get what makes Carousel of Progress special. They care a lot about the legacy of the Walt-era attraction, while also wanting to inject new optimism into the attraction.
Following that, Walt Disney Imagineering has pulled the curtain back on the updates to Carousel of Progress. Here’s the announcement via Walt Disney World, followed by our commentary:

The Evolution of Carousel of Progress
To understand the full history of Carousel of Progress, you have to go all the way back to the 1950s. As Walt Disney set his sights on expanding Disneyland, he envisioned an extension of Main Street, U.S.A. called Edison Square.
The square would be anchored by Harnessing the Lightning, a walkthrough drama exploring how electricity and technology transformed the lifestyle of the American family. While Edison Square was never built, the groundwork was laid for a show centered on a powerful idea: technology would continue to evolve, but people would stay the same.
When work began on the Disney shows for the 1964–1965 New York World’s Fair, Walt and his team of Imagineers reworked the Harnessing the Lightning concept into the smash hit of the Progressland pavilion — Carousel of Progress.

The fair marked the debut of the attraction’s iconic rotating theater system, as well as its equally iconic anthem by songwriters and Disney Legends Robert B. and Richard M. Sherman (the latter pictured below performing the song at D23 several years ago). It was an enormous success and a project deeply personal to Walt. It captured his overarching spirit of optimism while reflecting his hands-on creative direction, down to details as specific as how Uncle Orville’s toes should wiggle in the bathtub.
Following its run at the fair, Walt brought the show to Disneyland, where it opened in 1967 with several updates, including a refreshed Act Four (now set in Progress City, a community of tomorrow based on Walt’s vision for EPCOT). At the time, no one could have known that this finale would become a sign of things to come, as Carousel of Progress made its way to Walt Disney World in 1975.
In its time at Magic Kingdom, the attraction has continued to evolve, through new scripts, voice actors, time periods, and even full scene updates. The attraction even featured a new theme song, “The Best Time of Your Life,” which stood in for “There’s a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow” for the attraction’s first two decades of operation in Florida.
You can still hear the “Now is the Time” tune playing as background music throughout Tomorrowland today. The attraction’s last major update was back in 1994, which included an updated finale scene and the return of the original Sherman Brothers’ song.

Keeping Walt’s Vision Alive
Carousel of Progress was designed to celebrate change, not to stand still. In announcing the changes, Imagineers shared that they have the great responsibility of keeping Walt’s ideas of innovation and forward-looking spirit alive as we continue building the attraction’s future together.
Last year, Imagineering announced that guests will soon be able to see Walt Disney himself in the attraction, made possible through the magic of Audio-Animatronics technology. Walt is in an introductory scene inspired by the 1964 special “Disneyland Goes to the World’s Fair,” which is where he first introduced the idea of Carousel of Progress and shared his enduring belief in the power of progress to shape a better tomorrow.
The team is having a lot of fun sourcing and replicating many of the props seen in that special, like the prototype Tiki bird, the Tower of the Four Winds model, a doll from “it’s a small world,” and more. This once unimaginable opening moment will set the stage for the next era of storytelling for our American family and their lovable dog.

New Decades Coming to Carousel of Progress
In addition to adding Walt Disney to the very attraction that bears his name, Imagineers will also be updating all the scenes to new periods. With this timeline shift, we’ll get to see what John, Sarah, and the rest of the family are up to as they navigate ever-changing technology in new decades.
One of Imagineering’s main goals for this update was to keep the attraction relatable for today’s audiences by featuring eras to which guests have personal connections. That includes the iconic “There’s a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow,” which will continue to play as guests transition between scenes in the reimagined ride.
The Imagineers working on the Carousel of Progress updates grew up during these decades, so it’s been a real trip down memory lane to revisit the music, fashion, technology, and experiences that helped shape the history reflected in this family’s story.
One thing that makes the Carousel of Progress so special is that physical props, painted backdrops, and practical effects everywhere. The team is working tirelessly to make sure things like appliances and artwork are true to that decade. During the presentation, Imagineers shared that they’ve been scouring eBay endlessly for authentic period pieces and have been excited with many of their finds.
With that, let’s turn to the new century aboard Carousel of Progress!

Act 1: The 1960s
When the show first opened at the World’s Fair, its story began by looking back about 60 years to the dawn of the new century. Now more than six decades later, this new iteration mirrors that idea, starting 60 years back from today in the 1960s.
In the summer of 1969, our Carousel family, along with millions around the world, gather around the television to witness one of humanity’s greatest achievements: the historic moon landing. Filled with awe, the moment captures the spirit of innovation and possibility that has always been—and always will be—at the heart of Carousel of Progress.
Act 2: The 1980s
It’s the ‘80s, where everything bigger is better, and things keep on getting bigger. We pick up with the family on Halloween Night of 1985, and for the first time ever, Sarah is taking center stage. She’ll share how all the new appliances and gadgets are making life easier for the whole family.
Speaking of John, we’ll find him out on the porch handing out candy to trick-or-treaters, and poor Uncle Orville can be found in the bathroom with “no privacy around here!”
During the media presentation, Imagineers shared that Orville has invested in a small fruit stand that’s starting to sell personal computers, as John quips that “it’ll never work.” Orville gets the last laugh and his privacy with a clap-on (or is it clap-off?) moment at the end of the scene as we and the Progress family shift once again.
Act 3: The New Millennium
With the ‘90s drawing to a close, our Carousel family is preparing to ring in the new millennium on New Year’s Eve 1999. Amid the excitement of the countdown to 2000, a newfangled thing called the Internet is bringing John, Sarah, Jimmy and Patty – and the world – closer together than ever before.
And of course, not everyone is making it to midnight. Grandpa has already nodded off before the big countdown, while Grandma switches the TV over to professional wrestling when no one’s looking.

Act 4: The Possible Future
As we reach the end of our show, we see the family one last time in the distant future, in a home off planet. From a helpful robot assisting with everyday tasks to space travel, the scene imagines a future where extraordinary innovation has become part of life and proves that a beautiful tomorrow is just a dream away.
To help bring this new finale to life, Imagineers looked back at original concept sketches by Disney Legend John Hench, drawing inspiration from his imaginative vision of the future. Concept art released by Walt Disney Imagineering for the new scene is pictured above.
Carousel of Progress Closing Date
To prepare for the next version of this ever-progressing attraction, the Carousel of Progress will be temporarily unavailable beginning July 6, 2026.
The last day to experience the current incarnation of Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress will be July 5, 2026. The reimagined ride will open sometime in 2027. For more on timing and frustrations about the lack of notice, see: Carousel of Progress Reimagining Timeline.
Before we dig into the commentary, here’s a first look at the new Carousel of Progress attraction poster, which pays homage to the original Carousel of Progress poster created for its Magic Kingdom debut:

Our Commentary
I’ll be honest with you. The first time I heard this news, my heart sank. When I told Sarah about the news, she started crying. And not because she will be featured center stage for a scene.
Sarah is just as opinionated as me, and this is the most visceral reaction she’s had to any Walt Disney World news in the last two years. At the risk of stating the obvious, there has been a lot of Walt Disney World news in that span (including the last D23 Expo), and not all of it has been great!
For both of us, the reactions were driven by powerful nostalgia. We have a ridiculous number of memories as a couple in Carousel of Progress, dating back to 2006. In the last 20 years, there’s only one attraction we’ve likely done more, and that’s the TTA PeopleMover. Sarah specifically said that she wasn’t crying because she was upset, but that “we just have had so many happy moments” associated with Carousel of Progress.
It’s also one of my mom’s favorite attractions, so I have a lot of memories from Carousel of Progress from the last four decades. I could make my own Carousel of Progress about Carousel of Progress! Suffice to say, there’s a reason why it makes Sarah & Tom Bricker’s Top 15 Disney Attractions, and countless other ‘best of’ lists on DTB.

This sentiment is hardly unique to us. Countless diehard Walt Disney World fans have deep wells of nostalgia for Carousel of Progress. To many of us, the Progress Family feels like actual family.
There are few things that Walt Disney World could change that would elicit a more powerful response among a vocal minority of fans than Carousel of Progress. MuppetVision, Country Bear Jamboree, and the Rivers of America were the big ones!
The memories we’ve made watching our families grow up over the years while watching the Progress Family do the same are powerful. It’s an amusing parallel when you think about it, and it’s difficult to untangle the sentimentality we have for the attraction itself with that of our own past trips spanning decades, when reminiscing about the attraction.
Carousel of Progress is about progress, but it’s also one that offers a nostalgic trip down memory lane. It’s something around which so many lifelong fans have fond recollections of simpler times, both in real life and at Walt Disney World. It’s one of those “if you know, you know” type of things, and either you’re already quietly nodding along or no amount of further explanation will make it make sense, so I’ll stop here.

After my heart sank upon initially hearing the news that Carousel of Progress was shifting decades, I listened to a comprehensive explanation of the changes. Along with the timeline, my perspective shifted, as did Sarah’s.
Previously, we’ve said that the best long-term move for Carousel of Progress would be to restore the original World’s Fair version of the attraction, with a narrative framing device that it’s being presented by the Tomorrowland Metro-Retro Historical Society and the introduction featuring the Walt Disney Audio Animatronics figure.
The purist in me thinks that a restoration of the World’s Fair version would be the safest approach. And even if that were to happen, I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that I’d miss the woefully dated finale with its glorious 1990s interior design, the Virtual Boy-esque game, Sorcerer Mickey abstract art, and little Easter Eggs I’ve grown to love. The finale absolutely, without question needs a wholesale replacement, but saying goodbye even to just that (while retaining the other scenes) after three decades would’ve been a tough task.

The optimist in me is more open to the Carousel of Progress decade shift.
Since I’ve been an adult Walt Disney World fan, this has been one of the most misunderstood Magic Kingdom attractions. The next closest would’ve been the old Country Bear Jamboree. They are two attractions that I’ve spilled considerable digital ink defending, trying to convince the uninitiated to give a chance.
Despite my best efforts, no attraction better exemplifies the tension between WDW diehards and first-timers than Carousel of Progress. If you’re new to Walt Disney World, you might hear the emphatic praise for Carousel of Progress from people like me, and be shocked to see it yourself. You might even think you’ve been Punk’d. Why does anyone love these antiquated robots talking about the distant past, and a version of the future that is also, pretty much, the past?!

I’m not naive enough to think that an Audio Animatronics-driven stage show with no Disney intellectual property is suddenly going to become a must-do for first timers. It probably won’t skyrocket in guest satisfaction, as happened with the Country Bear Musical Jamboree reimagining.
That’s actually precisely why I’m optimistic about the changes to Carousel of Progress. This reimagining still allows the attraction to retain its fundamental nature, charm and character, and connection to Walt Disney, while being modernized in the process. It won’t appeal to all casual guests, but it’ll attract more of them. And that’s progress.
We can quibble about the degree to which the essence of Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress is remaining intact in light of the decade shift (and there will undoubtedly be a lot of that in the next year), but the style and spirit of the attraction will remain. It’s not going to be a synergy play. John and Sarah won’t do some thinly-veiled marketing for Disney+ or Hulu halfway through.

Even so, I already know many fans are going to question whether it’s still Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress after replacing all of the decades from his version of the attraction. I would argue that it will be so long as the spirit, intent, and vision of the original attraction remain intact.
Walt’s idea for Carousel of Progress revolved around his love for the American family and for progress, and showcasing all of the new wonders of the 20th century as the American family navigated them. The attraction is imbued with Walt’s worldview of a brighter tomorrow and romanticized past; that is its heart and soul, regardless of the changing of the seasons. So long as the show revolves around those central themes and maintains its core essence, it’ll always be Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress.
Beyond that, I don’t really have any desire to play the game of invoking out of context quotes from Walt Disney about museums or (ironically enough) progress to make bold assertions about what he would’ve wanted or done if he were still alive today.
My perspective is that the parks need to meet modern guests where they are, for better or (often) worse. Doing that while attempting to respect the intent, vision, and spirit for the original 1964 World’s Fair attraction some 60 years later is a difficult balancing act. If Imagineering can achieve that, this still deserves to be viewed as Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress. Contextualizing it with the historical introduction will certainly help reinforce that.

The other reason why I’m optimistic is because it will be more relatable. I’m sure some of you groaned upon reading that line in the announcement, having flashbacks to Chapek’s infamous mission statement when describing the EPCOT overhaul back in 2019: “more Disney, more family, more timeless, and more relevant.”
Relatable isn’t necessarily a dirty word. While I enjoy looking back at the distant past long before I was born, not every guest is me. The current decades do make Carousel of Progress feel more like a museum exhibit, and less a contemporary attraction over which multi-generation families visiting Walt Disney World can bond, sharing firsthand memories.
These multi-generational trips are becoming increasingly common, with baby boomer grandparents taking their millennial children and grandchildren. This family is essentially the target audience for Carousel of Progress, and will see themselves reflected in the reimagined ride. They’ll be able to reminisce about their own experiences living through the updated decades, making the new Carousel of Progress nostalgia fuel for generations of future fans.

That’s what came to mind for me when having the new decades broken down. When our daughter is old enough to understand Carousel of Progress, the new version will present a great opportunity to regale her not just with an arm’s length history lesson, but our own experiences living through these eras.
My parents were kids in 1969. I’ve probably heard more stories about the moon landing than any other historic event that they lived through, save for perhaps the finales of MASH and Cheers. If we took a multi-generation trip with my or Sarah’s parents, this scene would absolutely spark memories and the sharing of stories.
Meanwhile, I was born in 1985. As a baby, I do not have memories of that year, but I do of the late 1980s. Same goes for 1999, which is probably the most positive, formative year of my youth. It was this weird amalgamation of anxiety about Y2K, excitement about the internet and the last gasp of a simpler time before 9/11 and the dot-com bubble burst.
The years picked for the new timeline are fantastic choices, even if there’s a smaller than expected gap between them. I assume this is driven by a desire to not dig too far back, aiming at baby boomer to millennial memories. At the same time, does anyone really want to revisit the period between September 2001 and the Great Recession? Or COVID? That pretty much locks in this range.
After hearing more details about the 1960s, 1980s, and Y2K, and seeing additional unreleased concept art, I like the years that were picked even more. Obviously, everything hinges on execution, but there’s tremendous potential for visual gags, Easter Eggs, amusing nods to the past, and cheesy dad (and mom!) jokes. The reimagined Carousel of Progress will absolutely be a bonding experience for families, as kids ask “you did what back in the day?!” to their parents and grandparents in response to seeing the show.

Although I know it’ll be controversial in some circles, I like the idea of Sarah taking center stage.
This has the potential to break up the show a bit, and hearing from Sarah while John interrupts could add a fresh point of view as well as amusing jokes and observations. The 1980s era of big hair, neon-clad fitness craze, glamorous power dressing, and oversized shoulder pads has the potential to be a fun visual alone.
While there’s definitely room for a bit of, ahem, modernization with the script, I hope that Imagineering doesn’t overcorrect. One of the reasons the Progress Family feels like family is because John and Sarah have the rapport of a married couple, talking to one another and the kids like actual parents would behind closed doors. There’s a fine line between loving quips and bickering, but the couple absolutely needs good banter if Disney’s goal is that they be relatable as real people.

All of this is not to say I’m fully on board with the decade shift to Carousel of Progress.
Honestly, I’m still torn. The optimist in me wants to be unequivocally excited. The pessimist and purist in me wishes they’d leave it alone, preserving the history and restoring the 1964 New York World’s Fair version. I don’t think it’s wrong to have conflicted feelings about this. It’s both the end of an era and opening of a new chapter.
As with so many things, it’ll ultimately come down to execution for me. This is a passion project by Imagineers who get what makes Carousel of Progress special, which is a great start. If they handle it with care and deliver a strong show with a smart script, memorable and quotable lines, I’ll be thrilled. I’ve seen the current version enough that it will always live on in my mind’s eye, and now I’ll have a new version to memorize.
On the other hand, if this ends up being another Zootopia: Better Zoogether…oh no. That’s what gives me the most pause here. For all of the great results Walt Disney Imagineering has delivered in the last year-plus, their track record isn’t flawless.
I can accept imperfection. Even the current Carousel of Progress is a ‘warts and all’ attraction that has benefited tremendously from being viewed through rose-colored glasses. But I cannot view it through CarrotVision glasses, and another atrocious outcome like that is what worries me.

One thing about which I’m unequivocally excited is Carousel of Progress getting love in the first place. This means the attraction can be marked “safe” from replacement until I’m Uncle Orville’s age. My daughter will be raised right, by the Country Bears and Progress Family, just as the Tiki Gods intended.
This is obviously not an outright removal and replacement. It’s not even like Country Bear Musical Jamboree, where Imagineers were tasked with an unpleasant assignment and making “lemonade out of lemons.” Walt Disney World has had a fair number of projects like that, where we’ve basically had to say, “you don’t understand just how much worse this could’ve been.”
This might end up turning out badly. I’m not ruling out that possibility because, again, I’ve been subjected to Zootopia: Better Zoogether. I know modern Imagineering is not infallible. However, I also know this is not a “lemonade out of lemons” scenario or a reimagining that is borne of bad intentions.
Critics cannot credibly claim that this is about scrubbing Walt Disney or Americana from the parks; if it were, the attraction would be replaced outright (nevermind the new introduction). There’s also the very real possibility that it turns out brilliantly!

This is a labor of love for the Imagineers working on the project, and could be a big win for Walt Disney World diehards if Imagineers can stick the landing. It has the potential to modernize Carousel of Progress and make it more relatable, which should attract new audiences to the attraction.
Not only that, but it’s an ambitious undertaking and one that undoubtedly has a healthy budget attached. It’s yet another sign of paradigm shift at the Walt Disney Company, within Imagineering, and signals the continuation of a new chapter.
Since we’ve invoked the zerrible Zoogether attraction a couple of times, it’s only fair to point out that Imagineering has far more hits than misses when it comes to recently completed projects. Just across the walkway in Tomorrowland, one of the biggest hits was the recharge of Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin, which breathed new life into the aging interactive attraction. In the last week alone, they’ve opened a half-dozen offerings that I view as materially better than what they replaced. Things are trending in the right direction, and there’s cause for cautious optimism.

Bluntly, I cannot imagine this getting greenlit back in October 2022. I shudder at the thought of a Carousel of Progress reimagining being announced back then. Stitch, Moana, and Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson all probably would’ve ended up with speaking roles in a far worse attraction done on a far smaller budget.
This isn’t to say that everything is perfect now (gestures over at the gigantic dirt pit on the west side of the park), but things are getting back on track with the passion projects being approved and properly funded, and the creatives given the latitude to actually execute on their visions.
Imagineers are not being forced to reimagine the Progress Family as the Incredibles or some other nonsense (and I can totally see an alternate timeline where exactly that could’ve been announced in 2021).

Ultimately, it’s nice to see Walt Disney’s Carousel of Progress receive a refresh. Even if the prospect of all-new show scenes leaves me a little uneasy, I’m heartened that Walt Disney World is giving Imagineers the resources, both in time and money, to go in and give the classic long-overdue love.
That they are getting the budget to lovingly refresh the attraction while keeping Carousel of Progress true to its original style and spirit, without injecting gratuitous animated IP and characters is itself remarkable. Since I’ve been an adult fan, the prospect of Carousel of Progress closing completely has loomed large. There was a stretch during the seasonal, ‘Bonus FastPass’ (IYKYK) era when it seemed like the show’s days were numbered.
Even as recently as 2022, this type of loving Carousel of Progress reimagining would’ve been unfathomable. The fact that this project was greenlit alone suggests that things are back on track for the company as a whole, Walt Disney World as a site, and within the halls of Imagineering.

While I remain ‘cautiously apprehensive’ about the outcome of the Carousel of Progress overhaul, the scope and scale of this reimagining is a win for the classic attraction, diehard fans, and the legacy of the man behind the magic. The Imagineers working to bring the attraction into a whole new century have a tough task ahead of them, and I truly hope that there’s a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow for Carousel of Progress and in fact, that Now is Not the Best Time.
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Your Thoughts
What do you think about the new decades coming to the Carousel of Progress at Magic Kingdom? Thoughts on Sarah taking center stage? What about the shift to 1969, 1985, Y2K, and the distant future? Do you agree or disagree with my assessment? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

Like many others, I am cautiously optimistic, but I still think they missed the boat with the date/era choices.
The older scenes really helped “sell” the idea of progress, while the new 1985 scene doesn’t seem like it’ll offer that much (and I say that despite me graduating high school in ’86). So I would have preferred keeping either the current first or second scene as the opening scene in the new version, just to create a stronger starting point for the progress, then jumping to the moon landing, then 1999, then future.
Those would all be sufficiently different enough to make the jumps worthwhile and demonstrate progress, while still keeping some history/nostalgia in there.
I talked with my Millennial daughter tonight, who basically grew up with lots of trip to Walt Disney World, her reaction was one of joy. The new decade scenes was her life growing up. I felt the same while, I was 10 when Man landed on the Moon, I cannot wait to see how the Imagineers are going to depict life in those decades when I was a young father until now as a grandparent. I love the current CoP but it is time..well, past time, for an updated one. This one with an introduction by Walt Disney.
I’m guessing, having been born in 1960s and old enough to attend the NYWF, that’s why they chose 1964 to start. Halloween 1985 plays into MNSSHP, 1999 turn of the century how many times does one experience that! Underwhelming concept art for last scene. Let’s hope it’s better than pictured…
I went through the exact emotions you describe, and share your cautious optimism, but I have to ask…..do you have other bombs queued that they won’t let you drop yet? I can’t believe that they are doing this, plus losing Muppet Vision 3D, and they STILL haven’t done anything with Journey into Imagination with Figment.
Well, here’s the problem, I think.
The COP combined “the spirit of innovation” with nostalgia.
I think the new times – 60’s, 80’s, 2000’s, future – could show the spirit of innovation, but lose all nostalgia.
There may be awe and wonder for the moon landing, but I don’t think there is nostalgia for it.
Nostalgia, I think, is for the “good old days” of how we lived. For the average park visitor, I think, lifestyle hasn’t changed since the 60’s (with the exception of the internet and related apps.). Otherwise, same neighborhoods, same appliances, same TV’s, same cars, same schools, same movie theaters, mostly the same 9-5 jobs, same scouts, same little leagues, same days at the beach.
If it were me, I would have done it this way:
OK, drop the 1900’s with Sarah’s water pump. Keep the 20’s (electricity! radio! talking pictures!) and 40’s (labor saving devices, TV, dial phones!), update the current (DNA, laparoscopy, computers, work from home!), add the future (robots!). Also, keep the seasons aligned with the acts: spring, summer, autumn, winter. We’re always feel nostalgia for the changing seasons.
So many thoughts. This is an emotional roller coaster for me, much like it is for Tom and Sarah! I don’t often feel strongly enough to write a comment, but…
My family falls into the category of “diehard Walt Disney World fans.” We are an example of families that take multigenerational trips and form nostalgia for the parks, like Tom often references. I believe my mom first went to Disney World with her parents and grandparents in the early ’80s, when there were only a few resorts. I grew up visiting the parks with my parents and grandparents about once every 3 years throughout my childhood. As my sister and I grew from young kids into teenagers, it started to feel like we had more time in the parks to get everything done. We were able to slow down and spend more time with classic attractions like Carousel of Progress and Country Bear Jamboree (though I’m sure we visited these on every visit, even when we were younger, because my grandparents loved them). There was something so special about that experience of being on a family vacation as a teenager, at a place that did not always feel cool at that time in my life, but bonding with my family as we realized how much we were actually enjoying these kind of goofy, outdated, underappreciated attractions together. Plus, they doubled as a great break from the crowds – we are country mice. As infrequent regulars, these attractions became our favorites in a special way, somehow like having an inside joke together.
Reading the descriptions of the new decades, with the specific references to the current script, gave me hope that the spirit of the attraction will be maintained. I hope this is truly a labor of love for the Imagineers working on the project, and that the optimistic messaging remains. I think it would have been better to keep one of the current decades for the first scene, as the new ones feel too closely spaced to me. It doesn’t hurt to learn some history, even if it’s less relatable. Despite my misgivings, I do appreciate that this was greenlit at all and that the attraction will be staying around.
I am sad and worried about the changes, but hope that the end result is a success and results in a refreshed attraction that I will bond over with my own children, my husband, and my parents on our continued multi-generational trips.
It’s always nice to see perspectives similar to my own on this blog. Thank you to Tom and the other commenters!
Excellent presentation on CoP.
We were very saddened when the changes were made to Bear Country Jamboree.
My Father-in-Law was the voice of Buff (the Buffalo). We have not been to Bear Country since that change.
Thankfully at this time we still can hear his voice with Fritz (the Parrot) in Tiki Room and the Background singing of Pirates.
Most Importantly we are still able to see his image and hear him sing at the Haunted House with the Singing Bust on its’ side near the end of the ride.
For us “old dinosaurs” Progress is hard to understand.
That’s…an amazing connection to ‘old’ Disneyland/WDW, and several movies from that timeframe.
It really is a small world after all…
Your father-in-law is Thurl Ravenscroft?!
I’ve just been reading about Thurl’s contributions to Disney in a nonfiction book from a couple of years ago called “Before the Birds Sang Words”.
I completely understand people being upset about this due to nostalgia as I’m constantly upset about decisions that the company makes. And I know people like to invoke the “it’s what Walt would have wanted” to try and justify things even though we have no clue what he’d actually want. But updating this is something I’m pretty certain that he would have been doing consistently if he was still around, given that he was always about progress. Everything we know about him indicates it would have driven him nuts to be so outdated at this point. It being stuck in the time it is would likely be one of the first things he pointed to confused about what was going on with it if he randomly showed up today, aside from obviously being confused why he could no longer smoke in the park lol
I first saw Carousel of Progress in 1964 at the NY World’s Fair with my mom and dad who are now gone. That trip and the things I saw were like magic to little me in 4th grade.
I was so thrilled when I went to Disney World and sat down in the theatre for CofP and realized I knew this show. I almost cried. While I didn’t know the name of the ride, I knew the ride, the people, and that song! I’ve gone on this every time I go to DW…except this last trip in April. It was with my youngest son and his family which consisted of two little ones. When you travel with little ones you do little one rides. If I’d know it would be my last chance I would have risen it.
I went to the Muppet show the last time before it closed. I took pictures because I will never see the Muppets again and neither will my grandkids until they are all much older. When they finally go on the ride they will wonder why Disney Co. put these puppets on an adult ride.
If is only known that would be my last time to see CofP.
I didn’t get to show to two of my younger grandkids so they could see life’s improvements.
How can we appreciate the future when we throw away the past?
How will kids ever know what life and technology was like in the past when you throw it away?
Disney isn’t improving, they are throwing away the past.
Improvement would be a duplicate ride with the new scenes that you move to after the first one ride. THAT shows improvement while NOT throwing away the past.
Bad Disney. I’m so sad.
Well I have mixed feelings on this one. I grew up in southern California with the original show in the 60’s. While the new format sounds interesting, I’m going to miss the older scenes from the 1st half of the 20th century. Before closing, it would be nice if Disney made a quality recording of the current production and made it available on Disney+ so it would not be lost forever. Come to think of it, this would be a good idea for any major changes before they are done, County Bears for example. Disney could have a “Gone But Not Forgotten” section on Disney+. Could increase subscribers.
If it was up to me (I know, I know, big mistake on Disney’s part that it isn’t) I would have suggested spreading out the timeline rather than shifting it. The dawn of the age of electricity seems to me like a decisive start to the family lifestyle changes the show wants to illustrate. A sliding scale of “60 years ago” is just going to feel like starting in the middle, after all the biggest changes have already happened: a huge number of home/lifestyle technologies originated in the first half of the 20th century, and have only incrementally changed since. Those incremental changes add up to large effects, but still don’t compare to the revolutionary first invention of things like radio (then TV), cars, phones, electrical appliances, etc.
We may now be in the midst of a comparable revolution coming out of computer technology and the internet, but that itself could create a perfect opportunity for bookend scenes to open and close the show:
“Here we are with this newfangled electricity. What will it bring us in the future?”/”Here we are with supercomputers in every pocket. What will they bring us in the future?”
Anyway, so far Disney hasn’t called the supercomputer in my pocket to ask my opinion, so it’s all just wishful thinking.
I’m shocked and thrilled they are investing in re-doing all the scenes.
Personally, I wouldn’t have gone back further to create more overlap with the original, and space out more. 40’s, early 70’s, late 90’s. But that’s nitpicking.
I’m glad they are keeping it relevant. The skip from the 40’s to today/future was jarring.
::Sigh::
When I break WDW news like this to my kids, I take a page out of the Old Tom Bricker Playbook: remind them that updates/reimaginations are what helps to keep WDW great.
We will miss the Carousel closing date by about two weeks. But we will always have the memories – particularly my little daughter (it was one of her favorites).
Thanks Tom.
I think the attraction has been in need of updating, so I’m excited it’s getting some love. I have some trepidation over what they chose, but I’ll withhold judgement util it’s done. It would have been jarring to go 1900, 1920, 1940… home in space, but I’ll miss the old scenes with a start in the 60’s. I wish they could have done turn of the 20th century, 1950’s, turn of the 21st century, then future. There is an exhibit in COSI in Columbus called progress (https://cosi.org/exhibits/classic-exhibits/progress) that shows the same street in 1989 and 1962. Even though the jump from 1962 to today is larger than the jump shown in the exhibit it’s still fascinating.
Tom
I tell my wife, Tom Brick and I are brothers separated at birth. I read your articles and totally RELATE!
I am a 70-80s kid, and miss River Country and the Vacation Kingdom vibe of Disney. It was like my own playground. I still wonder how we spent 7 days in a camper at the Fort and we only had ONE park. But back then we swam in the lake, went to the contemporary Arcade and had a BLAST. I miss the SIMPLE times…when WDW was a small but REMARKABLE experience. I still cry every time we cross the sign and enter the bubble. But increasingly I get worried that it is loosing the Magic Walt created…sigh!
I have THREE adult boys that we took to WDW almost every year, so I GET IT! I hate the OVER Corporate upgrade to WDW. Sometimes I get mad when I see all the BUILDING and BUILDING to make a BUCK. What are they doing to the Magic Kingdom Resorts…it sickens me to see that abhorrent and non-themed tower behind the Poly…and OMG, that hotel hovering over Fort Wilderness.
Regardless, I can channel that a bit, we always get to Pioneer Hall on every trip, we always walk around Bay Lake, and take the monorail on the first day just to enjoy the ride. So with regard to CofP, the worst thing could have been losing it ALL together. It may be a big improvement, it may be a dulled down version to “reach” everyone remakes…we need to sit and wait.
BTW, I agree the Peoplemover is still a MUST DO each and every time we go to the Magic Kindgom. I am not excited the CofP is being redone but I hope they do it right!
Thanks always for your Posts…they are the highlight of my day!!!
Cheers
Mike
**Bricker**. My bad…
I don’t think it’s true that this refurb makes CoP “safe” from closure for years to come. That’s only true if people like the result. In the worst-case scenario, new guests still have no interest in it, and returning guests lose the nostalgia that kept them coming back.
If in 2028, the refurb is doing worse numbers than the current version, they might just scrap the whole thing.
Jungle Cruise – Removing Trader Sam adding Monkeys – downgrade
Splash Mountain – Tiana storyline and props – downgrade
Thunder Mountain – Big Gold Nugget vs Exploding Mountain theme – downgrade
Zootoopia returns over Bugs Life – horrible
Pirates of the Caribbean – adding Johnny Depp and the girl pirate… downgrade
Country Bear Jamboree – making the bears sing Aladdin … downgrade
Thankful Disney lives on in Japan!
As someone who only started going to WDW as an adult, I don’t have much nostalgia for the Carousel of Progress. The Disneyland version closed a full decade and change before I was born, lol. I think the updates will be neat, if done well. I know many people are heartbroken over this but I think it sounds tasteful, and my kiddo will now get to enjoy some new scenes.
I agree Disney should maintain at least one older era scene. I’m sure they are trying hard to make it relevant for the casual Magic Kingdom guests.
I first experienced Carousel of Progress at Disneyland in the late 1960s. It was also my mom’s favorite attraction and we always caught this show when we visited the park about once a year. I’m pretty sure it was still in its original configuration when it was packed up and moved to Florida to make way for America Sings. (I actually liked America Sings.)
What would really be awesome is if Disney cloned the new Carousel of Progress at Disneyland. The show building is still there and is currently just wasted space. Disney could get a whole lotta love from fans by bringing this attraction back to Disneyland.
I wish I could share your cautious optimism, but honestly, I’m so upset about this. I have no objection to adding new decades. But to remove the earlier ones ??
Part of it is me and my preferences—I absolutely adore anything turn of the twentieth century, so the first scene is far and away my favorite. (It’s also why I love Main Street!). But why must we erase the more distant past in order to add the more recent past?
The timing of this announcement also does not give people much time to see it in its current form, which also troubles me.
Unfortunately, this is of a piece with what we have seen at WDW for the past few years, with the changes to the country bears, closing muppet vision, and of course closing rivers of America. It really feels like someone high up at the company has decided that Disneyland will respect its legacy and history while expanding and adding new attractions (adding a Coco attraction while not removing anything ? Revolutionary !) and WDW will tear down the past and just give modern visitors what they think they want.
I don’t know what else explains WDW removing things constantly, when they have acres of space, while Disneyland adds without taking away, while being hemmed in by city blocks.
I’m sorry for the rant, but this is so upsetting. I have LOVED this attraction since my first visit to WDW in the 80s, and I love its nostalgia. Is nostalgia so bad nowadays? Can’t we add to things without taking older things away?
Very much this! WDW has been making it hard to be a lifelong fan lately.
…please remember one thing:
“Disneyland will never be finished; it will always be in a state of becoming.” – Walt Disney
The same applies here; I would always expect classic rides like these to be mildly updated once a generation in order to keep them relevant.
Only aging out of the population should cause any major changes to the parks.
In response to the commentor who called this “mildly updated”—this is not a mild update. As I said, I am fine with adding new scenes. What I’m not fine with is removing old ones.
I agree with you, why remove the classics when there’s so much room to grow? Also, I really loved the earliest two scenes. It wasn’t because I related to any of that in a personal sense (even baby boomers would have been too young for turn of the 20th Century technology) it was the fascinating view of where we came from, where we’re going and where we are now. The extensive time shift is disappointing, especially when it means they’re scrapping what made this so unique. I’m glad I got to see it a few years ago. Changing the timeline also begs the question about the new opening: How is Walt doing the traditional opening from the 1960s TV show going to fit the new time line decade shift?