Cars Rides Replacing Rivers of America & Tom Sawyer Island at Magic Kingdom

Walt Disney World has announced that the Cars attractions coming to Magic Kingdom will replace the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island, fully eliminating the waterway. This post shares details, concept art, and everything we know about the plan–plus commentary about why this is happening and the good, bad and ugly of this news.

To bring you up to speed, this past weekend at D23: The Ultimate Disney Fan Event, Disney Experiences Chairman Josh D’Amaro revealed exciting new details about what’s coming to Walt Disney World. Two of the highlights were exciting news about Monstropolis and the Monsters Inc. Doors Coaster as well as Villains Land in Magic Kingdom.

Alongside that, one of the biggest announcements involved a Cars reimagining of Frontierland. According to Walt Disney World, soon you’ll be able to explore the uncharted territory of the great outdoors with an expansion in Frontierland themed around Pixar Animation Studios’ “Cars.” It’s time to leave Radiator Springs and head west into exciting new locations.

As part of a new update, Walt Disney World has now revealed that in order to make way for this completely new frontier, the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island will be transformed into vast and rugged terrains for a rally race with some of the world’s most iconic racers.

In case you didn’t quite grasp it the first time, this means that the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island will close. The Cars expansion is not going Beyond Big Thunder–at least, not in a material way–it’s filling in the Rivers of America and replacing the land that’s currently Tom Sawyer Island.

Here’s new concept art showing the new Cars section of Frontierland:

“We are thrilled to create this original Cars adventure and put our guests in the driver’s seat as we—quite literally—explore a new frontier in Frontierland,” shared Michael Hundgen, Walt Disney World Portfolio Executive Producer at Walt Disney Imagineering.

“Part of pioneering this new story includes tapping into the themes of exploration and adventure that inspire so many of us to keep propelling forward. Anytime we touch Magic Kingdom, we recognize the massive responsibility that exists to get it right and tell stories that connect with our guests.”

The new area will bring you along for the ride (pun intended) with a brand-new thrilling rally race through the mountains, climbing trails, and dodging geysers, in addition to a second attraction geared towards fun for the whole family.

Ahead of work revving into high gear next year, guests will have plenty of time to experience the charm and nostalgia of Frontierland as it is today.

And cruising just around the bend, guests will be able to venture Beyond Big Thunder Mountain into an all-new land dedicated to Disney Villains. Inspired by the wicked characters fans know and loathe, the multi-acre expansion will include two major attractions, plus dining and shopping. Walt Disney Imagineering is pushing creative boundaries to dark and mysterious levels to bring this new, first-of-its-kind land to life.

Together, these new additions to Magic Kingdom will represent the largest expansion in park history.

Turning to commentary, the Parks Panel at D23 felt a little too good to be true. That there were a few important details purposefully withheld, like the location of Monstropolis at Disney’s Hollywood Studios or how Cars and Villains would fit into Magic Kingdom, that would’ve sapped some of the energy from the room.

When it came to the Cars and Villains Land announcements, I had already assumed that, in order to accommodate both expansions, some of the Rivers of America will be lost in the process. That was also true with prior concepts that had been floated for Beyond Big Thunder. It was never entirely a beyond the berm expansion.

As I wrote in the Cars commentary, my guess was that a lot of the Rivers of America would be consumed by the expansion based on the potential size and scale of these two areas, along with Josh D’Amaro and Imagineers using the word “reimagining” in addition to “expansion” to describe the project. That also explains why Imagineering has yet to file the permit, despite indicating it would happen soon back in April. Because once the cat is out of the bag, as it is now, sentiment is going to sour on this project to at least some degree.

It wouldn’t have bothered me at all if Tom Sawyer Island is becoming Tom Sawyer Peninsula and the Rivers of America is shortened. Eliminating the dead ends at Haunted Mansion and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad would be hugely beneficial from a crowd flow perspective, especially with all the people these two new lands are going to draw.

However, that’s not what this is. There will be no more Rivers of America or Tom Sawyer Island. They’re goners.

It’s not exactly paving over paradise to put up a parking lot, but it’s kinda close. This will replace tranquil waters and a lush area that offered a lovely escape from the crowds and chaos of Magic Kingdom for almost the exact opposite of that. Loud cars racing around and attractions that will undoubtedly draw those huge crowds.

Disney is undoubtedly making this decision from a guest utilization perspective. These two Cars rides will be hugely popular, and effectively expand the capacity of Magic Kingdom in the same amount of space.

It’s no secret that the Liberty Square Riverboat and Tom Sawyer Island don’t have the hourly throughput numbers as most attractions in Magic Kingdom. Eliminating them reduces operational and maintenance expenses on attractions and areas that are underutilized and don’t offer as much operational ‘bang for buck’ to the company, so to speak.

Because of this, some fans will likely be entirely okay with this decision to eliminate the Rivers of America–as is their right. Even many longtime guests have probably never even been over to Tom Sawyer Island or done a lap on the Liberty Square Riverboat. Others probably have done so infrequently over the years, and will do these new Cars attractions more. This is necessarily true–hence the ‘underutilized capacity’ term.

From my perspective, this also at least partially misses the point. Theme parks are not just the sum of their ride rosters, to be raced around and checked off one by one. They are as much defined by the spaces in between; by the absence of attractions, too.

The Rivers of America, Liberty Square Riverboat, and Tom Sawyer Island are incredible assets to Magic Kingdom not just for the guests who actively utilize these attractions. They offer serenity and delightful atmosphere even to guests who simply walk along the waterfront promenade, stopping for a moment to catch their breath and take in the view.

It’s impossible to quantify this. That’s precisely what worries me. Sometimes Disney’s decision-makers view the parks as figures on a spreadsheet, and from that perspective, it’s easy to overlook “underutilized” things that are incredibly important to the Disney theme park experience from a holistic perspective.

It’s the little moments we treasure just as much as a ride on Big Thunder, and it’s the little details or quiet moments that become indelible parts of our memories from visits to the parks over the years. These little things might seem superfluous on paper, especially when the alternative is expanding the park and growing capacity by thousands guests.

By viewing the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island as underutilized real estate that’s expendable, Disney is missing the forest for the trees. Spaces like these are what help define our days in the parks, giving us little moments to pause and absorb the big attractions and experiences we’ve enjoyed. These things and places are what keep us coming back.

There’s a long term price to be paid for viewing the parks from the perspective that every square foot must be put to its most efficient use and have its capacity maximized. That’s too myopic of a view, and ignores the practical reality that guests form impressions based on the totality of their visit, with those little things or counterprogramming adding as much as the E-Tickets.

If everything is go-go-go, the guest experience as a whole can suffer. And that’s true even if the individual attractions replacing the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island end up having higher guest satisfaction scores.

There are some things that are impossible to quantify–that guests just absorb, even without realizing it. If this sentiment sounds familiar, it’s exactly how we describe the value of atmospheric entertainment–the energy can be felt subliminally even if not consciously. It brightens the mood, even if unknowingly.

It’s the exact same idea with the Rivers of America.

There’s no guest satisfaction “metric” for how many guests per day walk along that waterfront promenade, pause for a deep breath, smile and take a photo. I mean, technically there is a metric–the ones wearing smart watches probably see their heart rate drop a little, but Disney’s survey team isn’t seeing that data. (Hopefully.)

It could be an indelible moment burned into their memory, or, more likely, a fleeting bit of happiness. But it still mattered. It was important to their day as a whole. Most critically, it was a much-needed reprieve from the often stressful nature of the world’s most popular theme park. This has long been my perspective on the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island–that they are invaluable assets that serve as counterprogramming to give guests an expand from the paved pathways and hustle and bustle of Magic Kingdom.

I speak from experience. This waterfront promenade is one of my favorite places in all of Magic Kingdom, and we have so many memories of this waterfront walk late at night with a cool breeze coming off the Rivers of America, or early in the mornings as the sun flitters through the trees. It is one of those places in the park that allows us to slow down, take a deep breath, and soak up our surroundings. Maybe that makes me biased, and overly sensitive to losing the Rivers of America when the average guest reaction will be: “Who cares? Bring on Cars!”

I don’t think that will be the prevailing sentiment among Walt Disney World diehards. And I’d also like to think I’m a realist.

That’s precisely why I would’ve been okay with shortening the Rivers of America and potentially making it Tom Sawyer Peninsula, even if that meant major modifications or a permanent docking of the Liberty Belle. Because doing so also would’ve met guests where they were, removing a ‘barrier of entry’ for Tom Sawyer Island (so many guests never visit simply because the rafts over are a hassle) and allowing more kids to burn off some steam in that play area.

Meanwhile, the waterfront promenade and the ambiance it added still would’ve been there for guests to enjoy while walking past the main drag of Frontierland. It still would’ve accomplished the same goals from a guest decompression perspective. If anything, the Tom Sawyer area would’ve been appreciated by more people since it would’ve been easier to access. All while offering up space for expansion. A win-win compromise for all.

Obviously, that’s not what Walt Disney World has elected to do. So I cannot say I’m fully on board with this idea right now.

To be clear, I’m not suggesting I’ll dislike the Cars area or I’m suddenly anti-Villains Land at Magic Kingdom because of this. My feelings about the Cars attraction remain mixed (more on that in a future post since my 4:30 am commentary didn’t properly articulate it) and unequivocally positive about Villains Land in a vacuum. But I also think: not like this. They should’ve tried to thread the needle better, not sacrificing a serene section of the park that’s more of an asset than they likely realize.

I’m also not foreclosing the idea that I’ll change my mind. It’s impossible to ascertain atmosphere from concept art. Maybe the promenade that I love so much will be present in some form, or will have a spiritual successor. There do appear to be waterfalls and waterways, so perhaps those will provide a sense of serenity, natural beauty, and kinetic energy.

This Cars area all could be great in a totally different or even similar way. There are flashes of the Cars concept art that give me National Park vibes, and I like that (even if other flashes of it remind me of extreme sports). I’m willing to ‘wait and see’ and withhold full judgment. (What other option do I even have? It’s not like I can single-handedly stop this!)

For now, though, I’m a bit shell-shocked by the decision to fully eliminate the Rivers of America, and worried about how that could irreparably damage the feel of Magic Kingdom. I really hope Disney is not making this decision lightly, is focused on more than just increasing capacity, and is giving Imagineers the resources to do this right.

If we’re losing this area of the park, it had better be worth it. The marquee Cars attraction needs to be as good as Radiator Springs Racers, the themed design of the area must be superlative and in keeping of the rugged spirit of Frontierland, and the new area must have great kinetic energy and atmosphere.

They cannot deliver two overly-short attractions, a sea of concrete and some trees, along with a concept that feels at-odds with Frontierland. This has gotta be strong. They have to make the skeptics (like me) concede we were wrong about ever questioning the wisdom of replacing the Rivers of America. And I absolutely will do that if they’re able to deliver. I would love nothing more than to eat crow. I’ve gotten used to the taste over the years.

Finally, instead of being singularly fixated on increasing capacity, I wish Walt Disney World would endeavor to eliminate stress. When it comes to this, there are the usual suspects–screen time, lines, ride breakdowns, etc. But another one is offering up lovely places to decompress that bring smiles to the faces of guests.

Some of those decision-makers should go inside one of the massive Magic Kingdom quick-service restaurants during the middle of the day and count all of the people not eating anything. Just sitting there with their heads on the tables or attempting to ‘rest and recharge’ in about the most chaotic environment possible. (Nothing says ‘recharging’ quite like the midday rush at Pinocchio Village Haus!)

I’m not kidding. One important goal should be getting these people out of the loud and unpleasant restaurants and into actual serene spaces that offer nice ambiance and actually will allow them to mentally refuel for a brief bit. Walt Disney World needs to understand that Magic Kingdom is a world-class theme park, and those two words have meanings beyond just the fanciest and most modern rides. There should be a concerted effort to not just keeping it a “park” but enhancing that angle. It may not be captured on guest satisfaction surveys, but it’s as big a part of what separates Disney from an average amusement park as the envelope-pushing attractions.

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YOUR THOUGHTS

What is your reaction to this announcement that Walt Disney World is replacing the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island with Cars rides? Do you think the two all-new Cars rides coming to Magic Kingdom are “worth it”? Do you agree or disagree with our sentiment? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

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  1. NO ONE WANTS THIS

    replace the Tomorrowland Speedway! It’s the worst attraction in WDW, maybe even in all of Central Florida!

  2. I am saddened beyond words and frankly shocked and dismayed that this is getting rid of the entirety of Tom Sawyer Island and the Rivers of America and presumably the Liberty Bell. I agree with every word of this article and could not have said it better myself; in its myopic attempt to “maximize utilization” of every square inch of the park, Disney is missing the forest for the trees and, I strongly feel that Walt Disney would be adamantly opposed to these changes that will essentially eviscerate the heart of Frontierland.

    1. replace the Tomorrowland Speedway! It’s the worst attraction in WDW, maybe even in all of Central Florida!

    1. Unless corporate Disney changes its mind about destroying the natural beauty of The Magic Kingdom, you can rest assured that the Liberty Belle will be dismantled and sold for scrap.

  3. OK, I haven’t read all 300+ comments, but y’all have convinced me that I must pay attention to this area – and maybe even go over to TSI – when I’m there in September. The only time my family went there was on our first trip back in 2003 – the 11 yo wanted to look for the hidden paintbrush you could turn in for an extra FP. This was in late August and our impression was that it was hot and that the cave and buildings we went in had an um, very unpleasant odor. (I’ll leave it at that.) My kids never asked to go back and that now 32 yo has not taken her own kids there. I don’t recall the walkway being serene and uncrowded whenever I’ve experienced it, but again, I’m going to go back and pay more attention to it this next time. Thanks for the inspiration!

    1. I would try to go right when the island opens, around 11 am — we visited over Spring Break this year and while we were not alone there, the whole island felt very relaxing and old-school, not crowded, and there wasn’t any line to speak of for either the raft over or the raft back. I am glad we explored it thoroughly (“secret” exit cave!) so my girls will know what it was like. I don’t think we noticed any smells, but my nose is not as good as my daughters’.

      Admittedly it was probably not as hot in April as it will be in September, but I still think it’s worth seeing, acknowledging that I personally am a sucker for nostalgia.

  4. I am so upset by this decision. One of the reasons I don’t like going to Universal Studios is that all the attractions and rides seem to be squashed on top of one another. The transitions between lands is jarring and there are no lovely vistas to relax by or take in, you are just in a park with a whole lot of rides. There are dozens of parks like this around the world. What has always set Disney parks apart is the ambience they create in and around the different lands and the seamless transition between them. I love Rivers Of America. Every visit we aways ride the paddle steamer. It gives us a chance to take a breath and relax and enjoy some fresh air and pretty views. Now Magic Kingdom will just become another park with loads of rides all crammed on top of one another. Shame.

  5. I enjoyed the tranquility and watching the wildlife. what are they doing to relocate the animals like alligators, snakes and turtles?

  6. Places like the promenade along the Rivers of America and the “Big White Boat” as my family has fondly called it all these years are what put the “Magic” in the “Magic Kingdom” — they’re the places (and sightlines) that I would argue cause you to feel the most. This one feels like a loss.

  7. Well said, as always. Maybe since we’re getting an entire area dedicated to Cars, they can finally demolish Tomorrowland Speedway and build an area that’s more tranquil to help people escape the chaos? It would be cool to have an immersive environment to just walk around and absorb in MK. Epcot has Moana and certain areas in World Showcase, AK has Pandora, HS has Batuu… But I can’t think of anything like that really in MK, apart from maybe the Treehouse. You’re so right that MK desperately needs more chill-out zones. I’d love to see the Speedway area converted into one. Or just literally anything other than the Speedway, to be honest. lol

    1. Sadly the company doesn’t seemingly care about tranquil areas as they aren’t monetized. It’s all about squeezing in as much LL revenue as possible

  8. This is the best article I’ve read in response to the “expansion” news. Having grown up in Los Angeles, I was a regular at Disneyland, and always loved the areas around Rivers of America. It is calming, and peaceful, in an exceedingly busy (and crowded) Disneyland Park.

    I now live in London, and go to Disneyland Paris several times a year. It is a gorgeous park, and the Rivers of America there is an icon and a centrepiece of the park. There are no better views than from anywhere on the Rivers of America at dusk! And in 2019 – just about a week before the world shut down – I made it to Disney World for the first time. We were in Florida to see friends in Miami, but thought we HAD to do Disney World. So… We did all 4 parks in a day! And the Rivers of America was a godsend. Magic Kingdom is large, but still packed, and it was so nice to sit and enjoy the beauty and details. Ducks and other birds. Even signs about alligators!

    We went back in 2021 for a proper WDW holiday, and enjoyed spending time along the Rivers of America. It is bliss when you need it! I don’t know if Disney listen, or care to listen, but there is rightful thoughts against this “expansion.” The Rivers of America connects the several different lands to help create a cohesive story – which is something the Disney parks so exceedingly well. Paving over the water for an attraction will destroy the cohesion. And I LOVE Cars Land at California Adventure – Radiator Springs is one of the top theme park experiences anywhere! But it just doesn’t belong on top of the Rivers of America. Especially when there is SO MUCH more land available.

    Oh, and Josh is AWFUL.

  9. I can’t believe how upset I am at this proposed change. It will destroy such a beautiful part of the park. This may be futile, but there are petitions out there to appeal to Disney management. Seems to me that most of the comments here agree that it is the wrong decision. They chose to keep Country Bear Jamboree for goodness sake! Let’s all give it a try!

    https://www.change.org/p/save-tom-sawyer-island-and-rivers-of-america-at-magic-kingdom

  10. I would love to have a California Adventure caliber Cars Land at the Magic Kingdom or elsewhere at Disney World, but not at the expense of the Rivers of America.

    Not every Disney World guest has the ability or desire to also visit Disneyland so having a similar Cars Land at Disney World is not an issue to me.

    I love the water, lush landscaping, and parklike atmosphere of the Magic Kingdom’s Rivers of America and would hate to see it destroyed and replaced.

    I’ve always wished that Fantasyland and Tomorrowland had something similar to the Rivers of America as they both have large areas that are ugly, poorly designed, unpleasant, sparsely landscaped concrete and metal jungles.

    It’s stupid to destroy the scenic and gorgeous Rivers of America when there is plenty of space to build Cars Land elsewhere.

    If Cars Land must replace any existing attractions, it should replace the lackluster Storybook Circus or equally terrible Tomorrowland Speedway.

    I don’t care about the removal of Tom Sawyer’s Island as an attraction as long as the island itself remains beautiful, tranquil, and befitting of the area, but I do care about losing the ambiance of the Rivers of America.

    The Rivers of America is my favorite location at the Magic Kingdom in terms of ambiance.

    Destroying Magic Kingdom’s Rivers of America will be the dumbest, worst, most inexplicable blunder in Disney parks history.

    1. Well said. They want to turn the entire Magic Kingdom into a concrete jungle. The decision makers at Disney don’t seem to understand the importance natural beauty plays in creating a truly memorable atmosphere. And how important it is to have a place of serenity in a theme park that is otherwise a bombardment of the senses. When guests have a tension headache, the Rivers of America is a place they can decompress whether they get on the Liberty Belle or just find a relaxing place to sit and, look at nature and regain their energy. Imagine those beautiful views of the Liberty Belle appearing around the bend by the Haunted Mansion with lights on on a pleasant evening. All gone forever. Guests leaving the Magic Kingdom with throbbing headaches will increase manyfold once the Rivers of America is destroyed for more concrete.

  11. You are correct. The framing of the attractions and the spaces in between are what elevate Disney parks way over the heads of other parks. Universal can stack up the thrill rides like books in a bookcase, but without stories inside, well, it’s just a bunch of rides. Sincerely hoping they prove us all wrong and create something of Disney level artistry and storytelling, but deciding to get rid of the river and boardwalk gives some pretty ominous doubts. May the Disney gods drop some pennies on carsland.

  12. I’m very much in agreement with you, Tom. I feel like the Shanghai Park got an intentional park space and they are removing the very few that we have in the domestic parks. I just visited Tom Sawyer Island at Disneyland last week and it is really in disrepair. The biggest cave is closed, the pontoon bridge is closed, and you can no longer walk all the way around because the mill (Fantasmic’s stage) is closed as well. I’m extremely disappointed in this lack of vision.

  13. I agree with you, Tom- the boardwalk alongside the water offered a break from crowds, important shade, and I enjoyed the water and greenery. I do like the removal of the 2 dead ends being beneficial, but I wish they wouldn’t keep removing water and relaxing spaces also. (Still mourning the river under the hub)

  14. Look at the map. There is a TON of space between Magic Kingdom and Florida Way. You’re not REQUIRED to tear out the heart of MK in order to expand. I have visited WDW many times since our first trip in 1982. Some of the visits included Tom Sawyer’s Island. All have included a ride on the riverboat. What’s next, the steam train and the monorail?

    No, I’m not going to schedule an “emergency trip to WDW in order to get one last visit to these charming attractions. On the other hand, I might not ever visit again. I think I’d rather have my memories than see the transformation!

  15. Tom I absolutely hear you and appreciate what you are saying……BUT, if I could be a bit of a devil’s advocate and point out a few things. I’m not a yearly Disney attendee but have been to the parks many times. We are huge theme park people, belong to a roller coaster club, and have been to more than 70 parks around the world. All different, all serve their purpose. Having said all that I have gone on the Liberty Belle and Tom Sawyer Island once. Just once. Why? Not because we were bored or didn’t appreciate the aesthetics but unlike you we don’t make multiple visits a year and generally just don’t want to take the time to “relax”, we want to run around and do things. We can’t afford, monetarily or time wise, to chill on the island every time we are there. If we need a break we will go back to the hotel and take a break. Admittedly a much bigger hassle at Disney than most theme parks. Now if I was a local or knew I would make 5 trips in a year I might feel differently.

    Disney will never be a Six Flags, we live 12 miles from one and my son worked there in high school, but it will evolve to fit the needs of the customer base. The entire park is more aesthetically pleasing and relaxing than many many theme parks I have attended and the decor (for lack of a better word) of much higher quality. I’m guessing there will be more than one nod to Rivers of America scattered throughout the new ride.

    For all those mourning this, I am sorry for your loss, but let’s look on the bright side and know it is likely to be replaced with something really fantastic and remember it is a first world problem. By which I mean no one is losing their house, or going hungry, or losing a person they love, etc, etc. Besides be grateful for those memories, a lot of people will never get a chance to go do Disney. I had students that lived 20 miles from our local SF and by the age of 13 had never been because their families could not afford it.

  16. Echoing Tom and similar sentiments from some other comments: I have never set foot on Tom Sawyer Island. I have never sailed on the Liberty Belle. I have, however, watched people enjoy them. I have listened to the water. I have enjoyed the kinetic energy created by the motion of it all, all actions that created thematically appropriate “life” to Frontierland. I still experienced them, and the theme and execution of Frontierland and my experience in that land was richer for it. It was not lesser for not being on the rides. My dollar was not wasted by not standing in another line for another ride at that point. The idea of it being wasted space is asinine to me.
    If I wanted to merely be shuffled from one ride queue to the other on flat paths lacking any sense of place, I’d go to Six Flags.

  17. Given how the parks and expansion have been looked at, it was only a matter of time before Disney execs decided this area wasn’t being utilized efficiently. I think the writing was on the wall the moment beyond thunder mountain was announced. Without substantial alteration to Rivers the crowd flow to that area would have been a nightmare. You need new walkways from both thunder mountain and haunted mansion so you don’t generate a giant dead end bottle neck. Alternative pathways to get the same result would reveal too much backstage and expose the giant show buildings for splash mountain and haunted mansion.

    I’m personally meh about the Cars but if they do the land right (similar to new fantasyland) and the added racing ride/capacity is used to finally update Tomorrowland (and eliminate Tomorrowland speedway) then I think this will be a net plus for MK

  18. Bob Iger is the worst CEO when it comes to the park experience. He is the Bob that doesn’t get Disney. The paddle boat, island, river, Swiss Family Tree House, Steam locomotives are not the reason people flock to the Magic Kingdom. But they add up to create a feeling unlike any other. It’s not just about utilization and dollars. It’s about feeling and atmosphere. And that’s why the MK is the busiest theme park in the world. Cars should be built, but not there. Plenty of space elsewhere. Heck, he can bulldoze the wonders of life pavilion or even the imagination pavilion and put it there. He’s already blown up Epcots theme. They also could have put a bridge to Tom Sawyer Island from Thunder Mountain and one to Liberty Square to improve traffic. The paddle boat may be permanently docked but would still add to the area and could be used for seating or even snacks and ice cream. Just horrible what this man does and I wish he and Josh were both gone.

    1. Well said… couldn’t agree more that the two of them need to go — Cheapek was the fall guy. but it’s clear these two are responsible for ALL the poor choices of the past decade now.

    2. I read the whole article & it all comes to one thing $$$$ !!! BOB IGER cares “nothing” about history nor about the people that loveWDW! It’s only a matter of time…..give him his way….WDW will never be what we used to love ! Let me see…..next to go will probably be… TREEHOUSE…. C OF PROGRESS….MAIN ST.changed….IGER,will have a great time” redoing….MAGIC KINGOM…EPCOT….FRONTIERLAND & TOMORROWLAND to HIS liking!!!One more thing PRICES are also going to go HIGHER! The new name for WDW …..GUESS!!

  19. at the very least, we still have rivers of america at disneyland. one thing i’ve always appreciated is that, for the most part anyway, when one attraction leaves one coast, it, or a form of it, remains at the other.

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