Disney World News: Park Hours Extended, Resort Reopens & Muppet Mystery
It’s time for another Walt Disney World news and rumor round-up. For this addition, we have the usual updates on Park Pass reservation availability and theme park hours (another extension!) plus an interesting mystery about the Muppets–with big names from Walt Disney Imagineering potentially cooking up something new!
We’ll start with a bit of minor but good news: Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa reopened yesterday. This happened as scheduled and without the new walkway to Magic Kingdom opening with it. As such, it may not seem like anything noteworthy, but just keep in mind how many resort reopenings have already been pushed back.
Aside from the Disney Vacation Club properties and hotels that reopening early-on when attendance and occupancy forecasts were much higher, everything with a later reopening date has been pushed back…aside from the hotels used by the NBA. That’s not a coincidence.
When Coronado Springs reopens as scheduled after the NBA vacates the resort in October, it should become abundantly clear that the only thing that kept the reopenings of those hotels on track was the fact that they were already in use by the NBA. It’s easier to transition to regular guest operations than to undergo the process of shutting down followed by the process of reopening again later.
We mention this because many of you were extremely critical of Walt Disney World’s plans to host the NBA bubble, erroneously assuming those hotels would’ve instead reopened for “paying guests” in the absence of the NBA. (Never mind the fact that the NBA is paying over $150 million, and that’s before factoring in the benefits to ESPN and free marketing to Walt Disney World.) It’s okay to admit when you were wrong. I do it all the time.
Thanks to Bob Weiss, @FozzieBear is joining in and connecting together while we’re apart! Who knows, you just might be next! #RainbowConnectionChallenge pic.twitter.com/VP3kfxv2M2
– The Muppets (@TheMuppets) September 21, 2020
Let’s switch gears and try to solve a fun mystery. The Muppets have launched an enigmatic new social media campaign called the #RainbowConnectionChallenge that mentions two of Disney’s top Imagineers. The tweet above (plus one other) mentions Walt Disney Imagineering President Bob Weis and Imagineering Portfolio Creative Executive & Vice President Joe Rohde by name.
In the past, Disney has tried with varying degrees of success to leverage the Muppets in viral social media campaigns. It’s thus unsurprising that many Disney fans on social media are already speculating as to what this means for the parks.
It’s perfectly reasonable to assume this is foreshadowing an announcement for Walt Disney World or Disneyland, or leaving breadcrumbs about a future Imagineering project. There’s no reason to believe that Weis and Rohde have any connection to non-parks projects involving the Muppets.
Moreover, Disney is very calculating and methodical when it comes to social media. There is literally zero chance that a rogue social media manager and Muppet performers got together and quickly cooked up this campaign to give haphazard “shout outs” to Rohde and Weis without regard for the ensuing speculation and rumor-mongering. Disney is the epitome of a corporate bureaucracy, and these tweets each probably went through a dozen meetings and just as many layers of approval.
With that said, you can still color me skeptical about this amounting to anything in Walt Disney World or Disneyland. In normal times, I’m hesitant about rumors until they’re officially announced. In current times, I’ll remain skeptical until construction goes vertical (looking at you, Reflections Lakeside Lodge) or work actively commences on a refurbishment or reimagining (and at you, Splash Mountain).
I’m a diehard Muppets fan. I’d love to see plans for the Great Muppet Movie Ride or any number of unbuilt Muppet projects finally come to fruition. Given Disney’s repeated bungling of the Muppets style and tone (save for the since-retired show “The Muppets Present…Great Moments in American History”) and the characters’ waning popularity, I don’t have high hopes for anything big.
Despite that, a small part of me can’t help but be foolhardily optimistic. The fact that these tweets were posted suggests something is on the horizon. The fact that the Muppets have been given chance after chance further suggests to me they have a powerful fan high within the ranks of Disney who is willing to gamble repeatedly on them.
As for what this project could be, the obvious guess is a MuppetVision replacement. I don’t see that happening. The popularity ‘ceiling’ on 3D films is pretty low at this point, MuppetVision is beloved by audiences that do see it, and has aged incredibly well. Updating it would be high-risk, low-reward.
If forced to guess, I’d say the most logical option is something in Liberty Square. The “Great Moments” show works as proof of concept for something and is the best exemplar of the Muppets done right.
Big names like Weis and Rohde being attached hints that this is higher profile. Not necessarily in terms of budget, but in visibility. Perhaps something that will be controversial. In particular, Joe Rohde is beloved among Disney fans, and has acted as a good “shield” for projects that Disney has expected would be unpopular with fans.
Given all of that, a Hall of Presidents Muppet takeover makes the most sense to me. (It’s literally the only thing that passes the smell test.) Not only was Hall of Presidents rumored to be replaced over the summer, but it’s the only attraction redo that would have a “ticking clock” on an announcement.
Making the announcement ahead of a polarizing election removes any legitimate gripes about bias. It avoids the inevitable general public controversy that would accompany another refurbishment if one of the candidates wins–controversies that will accompany every single election for the foreseeable future. Better to rip the band aid off now than have this relatively unpopular attraction be an ongoing expense and source of frustration.
Among Disney fans, injecting the Muppets into Hall of Presidents would likely be well-received. Even though we enjoy Hall of Presidents, it’s a liability in these divided times and is hardly popular among the general public. Unlike the previous Lin Manuel Miranda and Weird Al Yankovic Hall of Presidents overhaul rumor, there aren’t (or at least shouldn’t be) any partisan concerns about the Muppets in Hall of Presidents.
Among serious people, adding puppets to a robot show is unlikely to draw complaints about Disney “rewriting history.” Moreover, the Muppets are distinctly patriotic, and their show in Liberty Square was a good reflection of that. (So much so that a couple of lines were actually ‘toned down’ after complaints from British guests!)
Even with all of that said…I’ll believe it when I see it.
In much less interesting news, you can now receive 20% off select menu items at 20 dining locations throughout Disney Springs. These offers will be available Monday-Thursday through October 29, 2020. A full rundown of the locations and discounts can be found here.
It’s a good idea in theory because there are a lot of restaurants at Disney Springs and weekdays are still pretty slow, but the 20% off only applies to a handful of items or has certain requirements (i.e. purchase of a drink at Blaze Pizza). Nevertheless, some good deals–including some where Tables in Wonderland, Annual Passes, or other discounts would not apply.
Next, Walt Disney World has once again extended park hours, with a longer schedule for all 4 parks this weekend. These extensions apply to Friday, September 25 through Sunday, September 27, 2020. Amusingly, these are the same ‘Shorter’ Reopening Walt Disney World Park Hours that were introduced back in July and used through Labor Day weekend.
It would seem the pent-up demand and attendance projections pre-reopening have started to materialize, as Walt Disney World has seen growing crowds the last few weeks. We covered this trend in last week’s Crowds Continue Rising at Walt Disney World commentary–that is already due for another update as attendance increases have accelerated.
Consequently, all four parks will push back their closing times Friday through Sunday. Magic Kingdom will now close at 7 pm instead of 6 pm. Disney’s Hollywood Studios will close at 8 pm rather than 7 pm.
You can see the current/normal operating hours on Thursday and Monday on the 5-day view calendars above and below.
EPCOT will close at 9 pm, which is actually a two hour extension from the current 7 pm closing times. (Restoring a two hour cut.) As we’ve noted in a couple of posts, most recently yesterday’s EPCOT ‘Crowd Contrast’ Update, it’s now resembling a normal ‘festival season’ in EPCOT, with sharp attendance upticks over the weekends as compared to weekdays.
Animal Kingdom will open at 8 am from Friday through Sunday, which is an hour before its current 9 am opening. The park will also close at 6 pm, which is an hour later than weekdays right now.
While hours have not yet been extended for other weekends beyond this coming one, we would expect that to occur soon. It’s also possible that Walt Disney World will continue the week-by-week last minute extensions. The current crowd levels more than justify longer operating hours, and if Disney Park Pass inventory is any indication, this trend will not abate any time in the next two months.
If at all possible, we would recommend avoiding Walt Disney World on the weekends. While these extended hours might be alluring, the cost is dramatically elevated crowds as compared to weekdays in 3 of the parks. Wait times are over 40% higher on weekends, so the increase in operating hours by 10-20% is insufficient to offset that.
If your visit encompasses a weekend, our strong recommendation would be to do Disney’s Hollywood Studios at least one of those days. Since DHS is hitting capacity (or coming close to it) on weekdays as well as weekends, there is less of a pronounced difference between the two.
EPCOT is the worst pick on weekends for the exact opposite reason. Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom are fairly comparable, but we’d probably take Animal Kingdom thanks solely to the 8 am opening time.
While we’re on the topic, Disney Park Pass reservation availability is scant this weekend.
For theme park ticket holders and resort guests, only Animal Kingdom is available on Saturday. On Sunday, only EPCOT is available for those same groups. On Saturday and Sunday, nothing remains for Annual Passholders.
It will be interesting to see whether Disney Park Pass inventory is replenished in the coming days. It’s become commonplace for an inventory dump on Thursday afternoon, although last week it occurred earlier.
Recently, it appears that Walt Disney World has been using extensions of park hours to justify adding more Disney Park Pass availability. If what we’ve observed the last couple of weekends is any indication, hours need to be increased and actual in-park capacity needs to be increased if that’s going to happen. Shows and entertainment cannot return quickly enough at this point. We’ll keep you posted on how this weekend goes, and what happens next.
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YOUR THOUGHTS
What are your thoughts on a Hall of Presidents Muppet takeover? Happy that Grand Floridian has reopened? Plan on taking advantage of dining discounts at Disney Springs? Will you visit Walt Disney World this week or weekend? If you’ve been recently, what did you think of the crowds? Thoughts on weekdays v. weekend levels? Do you agree or disagree with anything in our report? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
The return of Muppet Babies on Disney Jr. has created a whole new generation obsession with the Muppets. Kids love watching the old movies now via Disney+. Muppets Present in Liberty Square was a highlight one year we were so sad it was gone. I am betting there is something bigger in the works incorporating them back into MK. In the meantime, the Muppets (and finding the key!) is a staple to every HS visit!
Have I mentioned my son is friends with Sweetums? 😀 Proud mama.
You had me at “Joe Rohde” and “the Muppets.” I’d be fine with a HOP takeover, an updated MuppetVision, an expanded Great Moments…you name it. So few things in life are as joyful as the Mupoets, and the world could use a lot more of their perspective right now!
Nothing moves me more at DW than the Hall of Presidents. I cry every single time. Patriotism, honor, respect, and hope for the future all fill my heart. It would be a devastating loss if it goes away or is severely reimagined.
I agree with how you feel about tthe Hall of Pres . My heart gets full of -patriotism also. BUT. I don’t think I will go in November because I am too afraid of audience catcalling or saying nasty things and I don’t want to hear any of that. I hate to think that any of that would happen at WDW but the way the world is today you can’t be sure.
I am open to changes to HOP as long as they retain the Presidents animatronics and keep Washington and Lincoln’s speeches.
I hope Great Moments in History comes back. Besides Christmas Carol, its by been my favorite Muppet production since Jim Henson passed away.
HOP is currently and will go down as “the best air conditioned nap area“ in Disney World since O’ Canada! (With cushioned seating)
Agreed! HOP-Best nap location currently in WDW. I miss both the cushioned seating in O’Canada and stretching out in Ellen’s Energy Adventure.
Maybe we need a top 10 list for locations to grab a quick air conditioned nap at WDW.
When did O Canada have cushioned seats? I have a vivid memory of my mom getting yelled at by a cast member for lifting me onto the lean rail so that could sit while watching. That trip was 1983, and I’m pretty sure the lean rails in place today are the same design as then.
I’m a huge fan of The Muppets and have seen MuppetVision 3-D at least 10 times. But after seeing it again last week, I NEVER need to see it again. That theater sorely needs an updated movie if The Muppets are to continue in that space. That entire area to the left of the Galaxy’s Edge tunnel, which contains MuppetVision, Mama Melrose’s and the disappointing Rizzo-themed pizza joint, could easily be torn down and used as expansion space for Galaxy’s Edge in a few years. The Mandalorian needs its own attraction. That would finally connect Star Tours to Galaxy’s Edge. I think moving The Muppets to the Hall of Presidents theater is an excellent idea. Not with the same movie, of course.
We went to HoP (or the Hall of the Haunted Presidents as my husband used to call it) Not many people in there and everyone was very quite. Not a peep out of anyone. The only thing that bothers me about this show is how little any of the Presidents really look line the real men. Of course we don’t have many pictures of the older ones but I have seen all the ones starting with Truman and most of them look distinctly odd. I am sure if they weren’t named, I would have never guessed who they were.
I enjoy the hall of presidents and really wish they wouldn’t close it, but things change and the Muppets might be fun !
Park hours extending would be great, no one goes on vacation to be back in the room at dark !
I hope with more guest it means the dining plan will be back soon. Up coming trip and hate the thought of not having everything paid for in advance ! Anyone else ??
Tom, for the first time I strongly disagree. The hall of presidents should remain as is. I loved the muppets in liberty square and cannot believe any reason to take that away.
Friendly reminder to keep politics out of this. Just because Hall of Presidents is being discussed doesn’t mean you need to share your ideology or opinions of particular presidents. All politically-charged or antagonistic comments will be deleted.
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Leave the politics at home while enjoying Disney!!
Papa L : Truer words were never spoken. Everybody needs a little history so they remember where it all started.
Your politics are showing. Not good, Mark.
Disney hotels aren’t priced to be competitive with local hotels at all. With no perks it’s just an expensive option.
We have a trip coming up. We would have liked prices to reflect no FP, no activities, and limited dining and transportation. It did not. We found somewhere else to stay that was priced to reflect reality.
Just to clarify your weekend recommendations over the next couple of months, you suggested DHS and AK for Saturdays and Sundays, correct?
I need the same advice. We’ll be there on a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. We need help deciding which park when. Anybody???!!!!
What portions of Great Moments in History were ‘toned down’ after complaints from British guests? That’s really interesting, I can’t recall reading that before.
Disney could easily increase crowds if they wanted by relaxing some of their restrictions. A large amount of people I’ve talked to aren’t staying away because of the virus but because of these items:
– No park hopper options
– No Fast pass reservations
– No dining plan Options
– Mask requirements (not so much for adults but the child requirements)
– Lack of Dining options and/or normalcy (No topping bars at burger places or Tall Tale Inn)
– No character meet and greets
Following a similar mantra from “Field Of Dreams” if Disney opens up more they will come (The Crowds). A lot of the families I talked to enjoy the hassle free/ seamless Disney trip with Fast pass reservations, dining plan and reservations, and ability to park hop all taken care of prior to arriving so all you have to do is checkin and enjoy your vacation. Now if the intent is to keep crowds small Interest will continue to rise slowly and or fall behind causing Disney to reduce hours and shut more things down as they have been doing.
You know Disney has no control over those things right?
It’s a public health emergency those are local and state mandates they have to follow.
Judging by recent attendance trends, I don’t think they’re too worried about increasing crowds even more.
The mask mandate is an Orange County restriction that Disney has no control over, but Disney does control dining options, dining plans, fast pass reservations, park hopper, park hours, extra magic hours, and character meet and greets. Disney has far more self-imposed precautions/restrictions than any grocery store or restaurant that is currently open.
Hey Tom, just noticed the marathon weekend is now a virtual race in case you want to produce an article.
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I would love to see Great Moments come back. That show was delightful and genuinely funny.
How cool would it be if the Muppets Presents took over the whole theater space and did a bigger, permanent Great Moments in History show?? I agree Tom, nothing against Hall of Presidents itself, but I want anything to do with crazy political arguments on vacation…
And yay for longer hours!!
I would love that! HOP is tired and boring and way too long. I grew up going to Disneyland and after seeing Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln many times, I felt sorry for MK with HOP. It’s just not good and hasn’t been since I started going to WDW in 2001.
this is a great idea. i miss the liberty square show.
“We mention this because many of you were extremely critical of Walt Disney World’s plans to host the NBA bubble, erroneously assuming those hotels would’ve instead reopened for “paying guests” in the absence of the NBA.”
In a sad, but related note, I believe the Swan and Dolphin announced a layoff of over 1k employees. The only thing that was keeping those jobs? Pro sports at Disney…
Almost anything Muppets that is well done would thrill me. Enough to make good on my threats to my family to leave them all home and go alone. Possibly more than once. I love the Muppets. Part of it’s nostalgia, but they’re just so funny!
Now if they’d just put The Muppet Show (the good one) on Disney+.
That would keep me very happy!
still waiting on seasons 4 and 5 on dvd… music rights hold outs is my understanding. even more than a decade later.
I hope they don’t muppetize the Hall of Presidents. Just keep HoP new by adding the newest President to the stage.
i think that ship has sailed. when we went a year ago this week and a security guard was stationed at both exits during the show, that told me all i needed to know.
The HOP is about inspiration. I know of no other place where one can go and gaze upon the countenances of those who rose to the highest point in our political system. Whether it is here, Williamsburg, D.C., or watching a musical, Hamilton, future generations need to be inspired to seek out the knowledge of our past to be able to form their own opinions about the present.
Those who believe that today’s divisive political climate is unique need to revisit past occurrences. We, as a people, have weathered worse storms and we will come through this.