Big Changes to Extended Evening Hours (UPDATED)

Walt Disney World has made two major changes to Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom and Disney’s Hollywood Studios, both of which could or will cause ripple effects for crowds and other guests. This post details the changes along with our commentary about their significance. (Updated July 19, 2024.)

The first is that Extended Evening Hours will return to Disney’s Hollywood Studios in September 2024. The perk will likely shift from Magic Kingdom to Disney’s Hollywood Studios on Wednesdays, starting with Wednesday, September 25, 2024. The move has not yet been officially announced by Walt Disney World, but you can see the change via the My Disney Experience app. (It’s not yet reflected on the web-based calendar, which doesn’t go as far out for some reason.)

This is not even remotely surprising. Only a couple of days ago, we updated our our Strategy Guide Guide for Extended Evening Hours at Walt Disney World with the “warning” that you can only expect Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom to run through late September 2024, before they switch over to other parks until 2025.

This was to be expected because of Party Season, which begins in early August but doesn’t really kick into high gear with a full schedule until late September. Last year, the exact same thing happened–Disney’s Hollywood Studios began hosting ExEH in late September. Then Animal Kingdom hosted ExEH throughout the Christmas season as the alternative because both Magic Kingdom and Disney’s Hollywood Studios had holiday parties.

While only one date is official for 2024, our expectation is that the exact same thing will occur this year. Walt Disney World has announced that the Jollywood Nights Christmas Party is returning to Hollywood Studios in November and December, meaning that it’s likely DHS will host ExEH from late September through October (and maybe a bit of early November), and Animal Kingdom will offer it from November through December 2024.

There will undoubtedly be Deluxe Resort guests who grouse about this, but on balance, this is good news for most guests. We did Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom a couple of times at the start of Party Season last year, and it was bonkers busy. Understandably so, as there are fewer nights to experience Magic Kingdom at night without paying extra.

Moving it over to Hollywood Studios and/or Animal Kingdom during those busy stretches is the right move from crowds perspective. (Also, both of those are underrated parks at night.) It gives regular guests more opportunities to enjoy Magic Kingdom without working around a special event, and gives ExEH guests an actual opportunity to experience lower crowd levels.

Most importantly, this also should open the door for more later park closings at Magic Kingdom from late September through December. In my view, Magic Kingdom should never have a regular closing time before 11 pm once late September rolls around and should be open until midnight on most nights between October and late December. The earlier closings caused by Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party and Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party push most people to those event off-nights, thereby necessitating longer regular hours to help better absorb crowds.

The other major change is that Walt Disney World has finally added Tiana’s Bayou Adventure to the Extended Evening Hours ride roster at Magic Kingdom. This comes nearly 3 weeks after the attraction opened.

Prior to this, there had been radio silence from Disney about TBA during ExEH, which was odd given that Splash Mountain was open during the perk and all other new/reimagined attractions have immediately joined the lineup, even ones using virtual queues.

July 19, 2024 UPDATE: Tiana’s Bayou Adventure has been completely removed from the Extended Evening Hours website. This follows its separate removal from information in the My Disney Experience app. As explained below, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure was added in multiple spots on the ExEH page, suggesting it was purposeful and not a typo or mistake. However, it was added on Wednesday and Tiana’s Bayou Adventure was not open that night for ExEH, so who knows!

Unfortunately, this isn’t the first time something like this has happened. It’s not even the first time this month. It’s becoming incredibly frustrating that we can’t trust what’s published by Disney on its own official website and instead have to caveat or “interpret” that info, but that’s becoming the case.

Our interpretation of what happened here is, most likely, that Disney IT prematurely pushed an update that wasn’t meant to go live just yet. That Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is going to join the Extended Evening Hours lineup, but (obviously) not this week. My expectation is that TBA will be re-added to the Extended Evening Hours page and operate next Wednesday, July 24, but who knows! Of course, this is just our guess. We won’t know until Disney updates the ExEH page. Actually, scratch that. We won’t know until it actually operates during ExEH, because apparently we can no longer trust Disney as a consistently credible source of info.

Here’s what was added to (and subsequently removed from) DisneyWorld.com’s Extended Evening Hours page:

An Extra Opportunity to Join the Virtual Queue

Guests staying at a Disney Deluxe Resort, Disney Deluxe Villa Resort or other select hotels will have additional opportunities to join virtual queues.

At 6:00 PM on nights with extended evening theme park hours at EPCOT, these Guests can request to join the virtual queue for Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind.

At 6:00 PM on nights with extended evening theme park hours at Magic Kingdom park, these Guests can request to join the virtual queue for:

  • Tiana’s Bayou Adventure
  • TRON Lightcycle / Run

Guests do not need to be in EPCOT or Magic Kingdom park when they request to join the virtual queue.

What follows is our original commentary, prior to the removal…

Turning to commentary, there are a few things worth discussing. The first is that the official Walt Disney World page for Extended Evening Hours has been updated with this information, and in two spots. This comes in the same week as Country Bear Musical Jamboree was added, at which time Tiana’s Bayou Adventure was not. This strongly suggests, to me, that the addition of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure at this time was purposeful and not made by mistake. (It does happen.)

This is the first point because Tiana’s Bayou Adventure joining the Extended Evening Hours lineup has not been added to the page describing how virtual queues work. More importantly, today is Wednesday (July 17, 2024) meaning that Magic Kingdom is hosting Extended Evening Hours. Despite that, and the fact that the virtual queue entry time is approaching in 30 minutes at the time of press, there’s no option to join for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure–only TRON Lightcycle Run.

Meaning that either Tiana’s Bayou Adventure was purposefully added to the official Extended Evening Hours page in two separate spots by accident, or the change wasn’t intended to roll out until tomorrow and take effect next Wednesday. Just based on stealth updates we’ve seen made before official announcements in the last couple of weeks (Jungle Cruise refurbishment being a prime example), my money is on the latter explanation.

Prior to this, we had been operating under the assumption that Walt Disney World was waiting until Tiana’s Bayou Adventure dropped the virtual queue before adding it to the Extended Evening Hours lineup. If you recall, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure would only be using a virtual queue for its initial opening period–Walt Disney World indicated that a standby queue would not be available during the “attraction’s initial opening days,” but that they expected to drop the virtual queue soon after the attraction’s opening.

Given that, our take was that Disney didn’t want to hassle with two virtual queues during Extended Evening Hours, and would wait a couple weeks for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure to have a standby line to avoid confusion and complaints or whatever. That it would only be 1-2 ExEHs, so no big deal. I maintain that this perspective was/is probably correct.

That is, until it wasn’t. For that to have been correct before, it means something had to have changed. My guess is that it’s the status of the virtual queue for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure that has changed. Frankly, I think this is probably a given. It’s three weeks later and there are no signs of the virtual queue going away anytime soon–to the contrary, this would seem to cement that it’ll be around for at least another couple of weeks. At this point, I would argue that we’re already already outside of the “initial opening days” of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure. So how long the virtual queue is intended to be used would be “what changed.”

Luckily for Walt Disney World, the attraction’s “initial opening days” is vague and open to interpretation. While I may contend that window has already passed, they could nevertheless argue that they always meant the virtual queue would last until September or, I dunno, mid-January 2025. That this was the plan all along! I wouldn’t buy that, but it’s certainly an argument they could make. There are plenty of uncritical fans who would believe it.

My view is that the “initial opening days” statement was made on the basis of anticipated demand rather than downtime. Meaning that Disney figured opening weekend would be very busy and they didn’t want an overwhelming line clogging up Frontierland or getting in the way of the parade route. After all, this was before previews or anything else started, so Disney was probably operating under the assumption that Tiana’s Bayou Adventure would be at least as reliable as Splash Mountain.

Obviously, it is not. While the downtime situation had seemingly been improving over the course of the last week, just yesterday, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure didn’t open for the day until after 1 pm. So something is still very wrong. It might be a two steps forward, one backwards kind of deal–but regardless, the ride is not consistently reliable.

At this point, the safe prediction is that Tiana’s Bayou Adventure will use a virtual queue for as long at it’s plagued by downtime woes. Virtual queues offer a means of pulsing demand and are the imperfect solution to operational woes. That’s precisely why Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance debuted the ride VQ back in 2019.

It’s likely also the case that Walt Disney World adding Tiana’s Bayou Adventure to the Extended Evening Hours ride roster with a virtual queue is a tacit acknowledgment that the (daytime) virtual queue isn’t going away anytime soon. After all, if it still were getting standby soon–why not just hold off adding it to the lineup for another couple of weeks? Especially after just adding Country Bear Musical Jamboree!

Ultimately, I still have no clue how long the virtual queue will last for Tiana’s Bayou Adventure. What I can say is that, up until yesterday, I was starting to lean towards “any day now” due to an improving uptime streak of about a week. Between the downtime yesterday and this development, I’m more inclined to say “hopefully by the late August or September off-season.”

Even that, though, is contingent upon the current problems plaguing the attraction being fixed. That could take days, weeks, or months. Walt Disney World’s delayed decision to add Tiana’s Bayou Adventure to the Extended Evening Hours lineup with a virtual queue says to me we can probably cross off “days” from that list.

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YOUR THOUGHTS

What’s your plan of attack for minimizing problems with Tiana’s Bayou Adventure–will you buy trying for the virtual queue, buying Lightning Lane access, or both? Are you excited for the opening of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure or worried about the daily downtime and other issues? Glad that it’ll have a limited time virtual queue for the initial opening period, or would you prefer a standby line? Do you agree or disagree with our advice? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

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  1. Hey. Tom , so I will be at Walt Disney World the week of September 22, we are going to Epcot the 22nd MK on the 23rd , not so scary on the 24th and DHS on the 25th and AK on the 26th . So would the best thing for me to do is flip flop days for DHS and AK because of the extended magic hours on the 25th at DHS , just trying to avoid the crowd’s best we can . Thanks! For keeping us updated!

  2. Tom, yesterday Tiana was on the extended evening page on the website and on the MDE app. Late in the day, it was removed from the website, still on the app, now I check the app just now and it’s gone from the app as well. Do you think there is something nefarious here? Ie, this was never supposed to be announced? Or that this was supposed to coincide w the launch of muti-pass and some silly person at Disney made the update a week too early??
    We will be coming down on the 31st specifically for Tiana and specifically staying deluxe for extended evening hours…wondering what the likelihood is that the 6pm drop will actually happen…. Thanks for your time!

    1. It seems like an planned update that was pushed out too early–especially since it happened on a Wednesday and TBA wasn’t open.

      Now the question is whether it was planned for next week, or some time further into the future.

    2. I have a hunch it was preplanned to go live Wednesday (why else would you make the changes to the info on an extended evening day and then not include it at 6pm…seems a bit insensitive), but then Tuesday the ride didn’t get up and running until like 1pm. Someone in charge came in Wed morning and saw the issues the day before and said nope, we are going to wait, but the details had already been released. So then they quietly made them disappear. All speculation, of course.

  3. Hi–In the past what days in AK (December) were Extended Evening Hours? Just a guess….It’s hard to plan w/o knowing this. Thanks!

  4. HELP! We will be at the parks 12/8-12/13, which night is best for MVMCP.
    We are staying at a Deluxe and do not want to miss out on any EEH.
    Maybe Tuesday would be the safest option but I can’t find enough evidence to support my decision before I purchase our party tickets.
    Any suggestions……………

    1. Hi—I picked Dec.10th (Tuesday). I want to go to Epcot on Thursday and Friday, Dec. 13th, I thought would be crowded in MK.

    2. It doesn’t really matter which day, every party night will be sold out. Crowd levels will be equal.

    3. Should I plan expecting any EEH to be on Monday and Wednesday, assuming there are EEH?
      SInce Party tickets are non refundable I really want to choose a night that will not overlap with EEH.
      Thanks for any input.

  5. How will TBA virtual queue work with LL multipass starting July 24? If you choose TBA as your tier 1 selection, will it just assign you a virtual boarding group? If you can join a virtual queue for TBA, why would anyone choose that as the LL instead of selecting a different Tier 1 choice like Space Mountain and separately joining the virtual queue for TBA to have both?

    1. I think they will keep Epcot, only MK shifting to HS due to the Halloween parties and then maybe HS to AK once Jollywood nights start.

  6. Tom, somewhat off topic, but curious if you have any thoughts about how Tiana’s MK reliability issues have affected (or not) the opening timeline for the Disneyland version? Is it possible that version gets delayed to avoid the same situation? I had been assuming the DL version would open in mid-to-late fall since they started construction on it later.

    1. It’s my understanding that Disney set an opening date for TBA at Walt Disney World far in advance (even though it went unannounced, it was set) and worked backwards from that. As a result, there wasn’t sufficient test and adjust time before previews–and then the official opening.

      There were a few motivations for this decision, none of which exist with the Disneyland version. (They did not realize how many issues would exist–it wasn’t a terrible move at the time, even if it looks like one with the benefit of hindsight.)

      It’s my understanding that there’s a desire to have the Disneyland version open before crowds pick up, but I don’t think there’s the same type of internal ‘drop dead date.’ I mentioned this in my review, but I honestly hope they delay it until 2025 and fix some of the obvious issues with set dressing and staging. I have not heard anything to suggest that’ll happen, though.

    2. Thanks, Tom! That all makes sense. Somewhat selfishly I am still hoping for the DL version to open in time for my Thanksgiving trip since I don’t know when I will get back down to Florida. But I also want it to work reliably so hopefully whatever is wrong in Orlando doesn’t trace back to a fundamental flaw or design oversight.

  7. Last year I think Wednesdays and Thursdays were alternated at DHS for EEHs any thoughts as to whether they just stick with Wednesdays this year?? Making plans for October and trying to guess this year based on last year . Thanks for the information.

  8. Hey Tom. You mentioned you did MK extended evening hours at the start of party season last year and it was bonkers. Wondering about what dates these were? I’ll be going the Wednesday after Labor Day and kind of figured a couple days post Labor Day would be slow.

    1. Mid-August at times when Magic Kingdom was otherwise uncrowded.

      It was also very, very hot–so it wasn’t just a singular factoring contributing to the crowds. However, EPCOT wasn’t nearly as bad for ExEH.

    2. Thanks Tom! I was hoping you might say that. Hopefully post Labor Day will be fairly slow!

  9. I’m hoping they offer Animal Kingdom extended hours for more than just one early December night.

    1. There were 4 dates of ExEH last Nov/Dec at Animal Kingdom, and that was with a lighter Jollywood Nights schedule at DHS. My guess is that we get around a half-dozen DAK dates this year, but again, just a guess.

  10. Hello Tom,

    “with the “warning” that you can only expect Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom to run through late September 2025, before they switch over to other parks until 2025”

    September 2024 is probably what you meant, just letting you know of the typo.

    Thanks for all the great content and insight!

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