Genie App Will “Revolutionize” & “Dramatically Improve” Waits & Experience at Disney World

During this afternoon’s quarterly earnings call, Disney CEO Bob Chapek teased the Genie app, which is the planning app coming soon for Walt Disney World. The app/feature is rumored to include paid FastPass and other tools, such as dynamic itineraries. In this post, we’ll share what was said about Disney Genie, plus our commentary about what this means as well as potential timing of an announcement and roll-out.

In case you missed it (or forgot), the Disney Genie app was announced two years ago at the D23 Expo. It was originally set to debut last year, but that didn’t happen for obvious reasons. Walt Disney World leadership has mentioned the Disney Genie app on a couple of occasions in the last year, but basically just to say it’s still coming. Otherwise, the specifics of Disney Genie are almost entirely unknown. Everything that’s been showcased to date has been vague, with the belief among some Walt Disney World fans (including us) that the Disney Genie app was announced before the company had even figured out what it would do and entail.

Previously, the Walt Disney Company has indicated that the Disney Genie app would be a revolutionary new digital offering that would enhance the way you plan for and experience a trip, with optimized itineraries, real-time tips and updates, recommendations for experiences it thinks you’ll love, and help navigating the theme parks with added convenience and comfort.

It didn’t take long on the earnings call for Disney Genie to come up. During his opening remarks, Chapek proactively brought up the new app, teasing that more would be announced soon. Here’s what he said:

“We’ve made significant investments in sophisticated technology and tools, created a revolutionary new multi-tiered service we’re calling Disney Genie. We’re very, very excited about the new service. We’ll be providing additional details soon.

“The goal of the user-friendly [Disney Genie] app is to create a better, more personalized, and customized experience for guests. Putting them in control and providing even greater flexibility and choice. They will be able to spend less time waiting in line and figuring out what attractions and dining options are available and more time having fun.”

During the question and answer portion of the earnings call, the Disney Genie app came up again, with one analyst asking how technology would be used to transform the guest experience at Walt Disney World and the other parks.

Here was Chapek’s response: “Ben, you used the correct word: transformational. MyMagic+ was sticking our toe in the pond of this type of transformational work. Disney Genie is the program on steroids. This is going to revolutionize the experience. Guests are going to spend less time waiting and more time having fun in the parks.

Chapek continued by describing how the Disney Genie app would work: “The dramatically-improved guest experience is going to make their navigation of their day and planning of their day much easier.”

“Essentially it is going to take the preferences that we note from our consumers…and blend that with basically industrial engineering data in terms of how the park is operating that day and meld them together to make suggestions on the fly that not only will lead to the improved guest experience and lead to substantial commercial opportunities for us as the guest navigates their day. It is certainly qualifies in my mind for materiality and transformational impact on our business from the yield stand point.”

In terms of commentary, there is a lot to unpack here.

First, Disney’s desire to better leverage technology should not come as a surprise. Both Chapek and Josh D’Amaro have been saying so for the last year in virtually every interview they’ve done. As for the multi-billion dollar MyMagic+ initiative that was referenced by the questioner, that included My Disney Experience, FastPass+, MagicBands, and interactive queues. It was envisioned years ago as a way for Walt Disney World to operate more efficiently and do the exact things Chapek referenced. There were grandiose plans for how the project would offer Disney the data necessary to streamline operations, deploy on-demand entertainment, manage staffing, and effectively utilize other resources.

Aside from the guest-facing components like FastPass+ and MagicBands, almost none of the big goals that led to the colossal investment were realized. Others, like FastPass+ and MagicBands, are in the process of being phased out in favor of other technology. In large part, this is why My Disney Experience wasn’t ported to other parks around the globe; instead those parks cherry-picked various aspects of the system to build their own, stripped-down incarnations.

So calling Disney Genie that program on steroids may not be the praise that was intended–but may end up being accurate in terms of vision v. reality. (See “The Messy Business of Reinventing Happiness” and “Behind the Scenes at Disney As it Purged a Favorite Son” if you’re interested in more on the trials and tribulations of MyMagic+ and the whole NextGen boondoggle.)

With that said, Disney Genie almost certainly is not as ambitious as MyMagic+ or the NextGen initiative. Disney has learned a lot in the intervening years, and has leveraged technology in leaner and more measured ways. In fact, we’ve praised many utilizations of technology in the parks since reopening. They’ve been smart and restrained, enhancing the guest experience in a multitude of ways with zero drawbacks.

Based on Chapek’s statements about Disney Genie, this app might either sound like a continuation of what we’ve seen in the last year or too good to be true, depending upon your perspective. When assessing his remarks, I’d encourage you to consider the audience. Chapek made these statements on a quarterly earnings call to investors and analysts–so essentially, the audience is Wall Street. It probably goes without saying, but their priorities for Walt Disney World might differ slightly from yours.

In theory, the idea that Disney Genie will improve the guest experience, make navigating and planning easier, and allow guests to spend less time waiting in line is great.

However, the quote that should probably be emphasized here is that the Disney Genie app will “lead to substantial commercial opportunities.” I probably don’t need to over-explain it, but that means increase per guest spending, which is one of Disney’s most important metrics. It’s possible that Disney thinks this will occur indirectly by freeing up guests’ time, improving the experience, and satisfaction scores. In our view, it’s unlikely he meant that.

More likely is that Disney Genie is the conduit for in-app upcharges–effectively paid FastPass.

This is something we’ve been discussing with regularity here in the last couple of months, which has been fueled in part by the roll-out of Premier Access and Standby Pass at Disneyland Paris. The Walt Disney World rumor mill has truly gone into overdrive over the last couple of weeks, with a deluge of possibilities for what the FastPass replacement and the Disney Genie app/feature will entail.

Prior to today’s earnings call, we updated our When Will FastPass+ Return to Walt Disney World? article.

If you’re curious about the leading theories at present, you’ll want to check that out (scroll down to the “Will FastPass+ be replaced by a different system at Walt Disney World?” section above the Runaway Railway photo.)

Ultimately, I don’t know what will happen with Disney Genie and/or the FastPass replacement. I’ve heard a lot in recent weeks with varying degrees of credibility–some rumors contradicting others. This suggests to me that there are still competing proposals, and the plans haven’t quite congealed yet.

I will say that the latest rumors suggest more of a hybrid system that is definitely not the worst case scenario and only borrows partially from Disneyland Paris. Most Walt Disney World fans are going to hate this on principle since it’s not a return of the free system. However, if some credible rumors prove accurate, I’m willing to wager that a lot of people will actually end up liking or even loving one big component of the Disney Genie app/feature.

In terms of timing, given the proliferation of rumors on the topic in the last couple of months (where there’s smoke…) *plus* a mention of Disney Genie in the earning call *plus* Walt Disney World scaling up park capacity *plus* the World’s Most Magical Celebration starting October 1, it’s likely Walt Disney World will make an official announcement before the end of this month.

Expect to hear something within the next couple of weeks, and have the Disney Genie app/feature ready to roll by sometime in late September or early October 2021. It’s going to be a very busy couple of months as things are revealed, prior announcements “evolve,” and more changes throughout Walt Disney World. We’ll keep you posted on everything!

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YOUR THOUGHTS

Are you optimistic about the impact the Disney Genie app/feature will have on the guest experience at Walt Disney World? Think it’ll live up to its promise of make navigating and planning easier, and allow guests to spend less time waiting in line, or just “lead to substantial commercial opportunities” for Disney? Thoughts on the possibility of Premier Access, MaxPass, or a mashup of the two coming to Walt Disney World? Do you prefer fast-moving standby lines only, or the FastPass and standby combo? Interested in how Walt Disney World will implement the new system? Agree or disagree with our assessment? Other thoughts or concerns? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

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110 Comments

  1. Tom, I’m curious on your thoughts on how this will be incorporated into AP’s. Do you think it will be an optional add on cost like Maxpass at DL or just added on and the cost of AP’s increased like what happened with photopass a few years ago?

  2. “They will be able to spend less time waiting in line and figuring out what attractions and dining options are available and more time having fun.”

    Here, I fixed it for them…..

    “They will be able to spend less time waiting in line and figuring out what attractions and dining options are available and more time spending money in gift shops and eateries while waiting for their turn to ride ”

  3. Is the Genie app going to be a free app?
    Is it going to eat up battery life of the phone?
    What about data use , if people dont have unlimited data?

    And the magic bands are they going to be good for December of 2022?

  4. Just another way for them to milk more money out of your pocket

    I’m getting tired of their move from incredible customer service to doing whatever they can to grab every last penny out of your pocket.

  5. This is a major bummer for those of us who have to make dining reservations and everything else next week. If this completely changes strategy then a trip we’ve planned for 2.5 years (delayed for 1.5) is going to get upended.

    1. “If this completely changes strategy…”

      It almost certainly won’t. I’d make your plans as normal.

  6. So are we anticipating that this change will happen in 2021? (I understand the announcement happening soon…but will announcing and implementing happen within the next few months prior to the 10/1 celebration starting?)

    I truly appreciate all of your research and advice! We are new DVC members and staying on property for the first time this November. (We purchased DVC prior to COVID on a Disney Cruise and we have to use our points before Dec 1 or we lose them!) Our family of 5 has gone to Disney at least once every other year (and usually once a year) for as long as I can remember. My 5 year old celebrated his 1st birthday at Disney, his 2nd and 4th on a Disney Cruise, and his nearly 5th at Disney (that trip was almost canceled due to COVID but they reopened a few months prior). I’m an avid researcher/reader and I’ve been a long time Disney fan since I was a young girl.

    Your blog has been SUPER helpful to us prior to and during this pandemic. Thank you for all of your input and hard work!

    1. “So are we anticipating that this change will happen in 2021?”

      Nothing is official until announced by Disney (and even then, subject to change) but my expectation is that this will debut by October 1, 2021.

  7. This all sounds wonderful to me. I am in favor of anything that updates the Disney experience and I am more than happy to pay more for a fast pass of some sort whether it be a flat or individual rate. I love that they are always introducing new ways to make the experience better. As far as all the “Walt is turning in his grave ” people I would guess that Walt is very proud of the leadership and what Disney has become. Disney is no different than any other vacation destination. They all cost money and you all have the choice of where to spend your vacation dollars.

  8. The flawed part for me is their track record wheb it comes to IT. When was the last time you saw a Google or Amazon throw up endless error messages. Compare that with how many Seven Dwarves or Sadness logos we’ve all experienced on Disney Tech. I’m hoping it isn’t as ambitious coming out the gate as he is messaging to Wall Street. The last thing the parks need are widespread IT fails while ramping up the increased crowds for the Anniversary. Fingers crossed I guess.

    1. I can’t speak to any of the bells and whistles (that may or may not actually be coming, anyway) but the core components of the Disney Genie feature should all utilize existing infrastructure that’s pretty stable.*

      (*By Walt Disney World IT standards.)

  9. While I agree, this is the gateway to paid FastPass / more up charges, can we finally put an end to the “Disney used to be affordable for everyone” or “Walt wouldn’t have wanted this” or “Now it’s only a place for the rich”?

    -Disney has NEVER been affordable for everyone.
    -Walt came up with Club 33
    -Disney has never been the destination for the “rich”. Middle and upper-middle class, yes, rich, no.

    Disney is a business first. As long as people keeping showing a willingness to pay their exhorbitant prices and all the extras continue to sell out, Disney will keep pushing the price points.

    1. In fairness, Disney created that beast in crafting the PR version of Walt Disney as its corporate mascot. That’s nothing new–it started with Walt Disney himself, who was careful with his words, public image, and television appearances.

      So while I roll my eyes a bit at some of the aforementioned quotes from fans, the company is reaping what it sowed.

  10. As long as Disney keeps investing in the parks and giving us incredible attractions like ROTR, Shanghai’s Pirates, Mystic Manor, and FOP (all of which, yes, I have experienced in person), I’m happy to pay the rising prices. Apparently many others agree as evidenced by the crowds, wait times, and stock price.

  11. From what you have gathered there will be no more fast pass + and the Disney Genie App will replace it, correct? Which means not only on top of paying $100+/day per guest they are going to make lines miserable again for families that can’t afford to pay for every ride. They will lose their biggest selling point… that Disney is affordable for everyone.

    1. There are some things I can’t discuss just yet, but I’ll correct one thing–the “can’t afford to pay for every ride” part of your statement. If the latest twist I’ve heard is accurate, you won’t have to pay for every individual ride.

      With that said, this is coming together very quickly and at the last minute and is still subject to change, but honestly, I don’t hate it (at least, what I’ve heard…which could be wrong or change!). It borrows heavily from a system I actually really like, and while an upcharge(s), it’s mostly not going to be as bad as Paris.

  12. I hope the rich can keep it all going for them. Disney has turned their back on the people that made them an empire.
    You said it Tom, I agree.

  13. I know it’s a cliche but honestly Walt has turned so many times in his grave by now that he’s probably another 50 feet down. What about a place to hang out with your children? Guess they now mean your local McDonald’s playground.

    1. “What about a place to hang out with your children? Guess they now mean your local McDonald’s playground.”

      Aren’t those all gone now? Removed because they were liabilities.

      (Perhaps that wasn’t your main point. 😉 )

  14. Yeah visitor wait times my ass. If they don’t have that figured out 50 years on then they are truly clueless. Genie is nothing more than additional cash grabbing. They should be ashamed of themselves. Soon a Disney trip will look like The Hunger Games.

  15. “Chapek made these statements on a quarterly earnings call to investors and analysts—so essentially, the audience is Wall Street. It probably goes without saying, but their priorities for Walt Disney World might differ slightly from yours.” Tom, this is absolutely the correct assessment, PERIOD! Perfectly said! Disney’s first and only duty is to their shareholders! Once we all understand that, we either become shareholders and live the true “Disney Dream”; or stop spending our hard earned money on Disney; or continue to spend our money on all things Disney, no matter the costs with no complaints! Notwithstanding, another superb article as always, Tom!

    1. I wouldn’t read much into the buzzwords used when describing Disney Genie.

      At best, whatever dynamic features it offers will likely just push guests towards attractions that are being underutilized–think Carousel of Progress or Country Bear Jamboree.

  16. These “innovations” will aim at more wealthy persons who can afford to pay for fast pass and other goodies.

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