Least Crowded Late 2023 Days at Magic Kingdom
Our Walt Disney World crowd reports have emphasized the best and worst days to do Magic Kingdom for the remainder of 2023, and the dramatic difference in wait times and attendance numbers in choosing the “right” vs. “wrong” days to do MK. This essentially reiterates that, with lists of what should be the least and most crowded dates in September through December 2023.
This is really nothing new. Party Season disrupts attendance dynamics and creates a “porcupine pattern” of wait times and crowd levels, but it does so predictably and has for years. Both Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party and Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party push attendance much higher on the dates they’re not occurring and lower on days of the events.
Magic Kingdom crowd dynamics during Party Season have been one of the key discussion points of our August through December crowd calendars for several years. It’s actually one of the easiest “predictions” we make. Those are air quotes around prediction because the porcupine pattern has played out predictably and consistently for at least the last decade. It’s akin to forecasting longer lines for Peter Pan’s Flight and Seven Dwarfs Mine Train than Carousel of Progress and Country Bear Jamboree.
For our part, we’ve been strongly recommending that readers visit Magic Kingdom during the day on Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party and Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party nights, and then bouncing to another park at around 4 pm. Park Hopping is essential during party season.
The underlying rationale for this is that many day guests avoid Magic Kingdom on party dates because the park hours are shorter and Happily Ever After fireworks are not shown to regular guests. This results in significantly lighter crowds on days of the holiday parties when Magic Kingdom closes at 6 pm.
These same guests then flock to non-party days in Magic Kingdom. For visitors without Park Hopper tickets (which is a lot of people), visiting Magic Kingdom on non-party nights is the obvious, intuitive choice. For the same admission price, they get several more hours in the park and get to see the fireworks.
After all, Magic Kingdom closes at 10 pm on non-party nights. That amounts to staying an extra 4 hours later, seeing fireworks, and getting to enjoy the cooler evening hours in the park. In theory, it’s a no-brainer!
But that line of thinking is exactly why our zig when they zag recommendation has been to do Magic Kingdom on days of Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party or Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party and to Park Hop somewhere else at around 4 pm, which is when the mix-in starts for those hard ticket events.
Even though Magic Kingdom has longer hours on non-party days, you will often get less done than you could before 4 pm on a party day. So long as you’re comfortable missing the fireworks or are fine watching from a resort restaurant or the TTC, we highly recommend doing your days in Magic Kingdom on party dates due to the significantly shorter lines and lower wait times. It’s usually so slow on these days that using Lightning Lanes is unnecessary, which also means saving money by not having to buy the Genie+ service!
For those with Park Hopper tickets, this is the real no-brainer. You can do Magic Kingdom until 4 pm on the day of MNSSHP or MVMCP, and then bounce to EPCOT or Disney’s Hollywood Studios and have dinner and enjoy the nighttime spectaculars in one of those two parks.
On a non-party day, you can start out at Disney’s Hollywood Studios and/or EPCOT, and then bounce back to Magic Kingdom in the evening hours to catch Happily Ever After and nighttime in the park. If nighttime in Magic Kingdom is a must for you (and we do recommend it–nothing beats seeing the park illuminated in the evenings!) this is the optimal approach for minimizing your exposure to crowds and congestion.
With that said, minimizing is definitely the operative word, and not “avoiding entirely.” Watching the fireworks from inside Magic Kingdom during Party Season is pure pandemonium, as many other guests will be in a similar boat with fewer nights to see Happily Ever After. Fireworks crowds are already bad enough on normal nights throughout the year–now imagine compressing 7 nights of Happily Ever After crowds into only 2-3 nights!
You might end up wishing you’d just skipped the fireworks entirely or stuck to watching Happily Ever After from outside the park…but at least you’ll see them! (Speaking of which, see our Fireworks Viewing Guide for Magic Kingdom. In particular, look to the less crowded spots and avoid Main Street!)
One of the added (potential) upsides to this is doing Magic Kingdom Early Entry at 7:30 am. If park opening moves forward to 8 am on your dates, that makes this approach a double no-brainer (before you get pedantic about “doubling nothing still being nothing,” just keep in mind that this saying makes sense to those of us without brains in the first place).
Sadly, Walt Disney World appears to be moving away from 8 am opening times on MNSSHP dates during the doldrums of the September off-season. We’re hopeful that those openings return in October through December 2023, but we really have no clue as to whether that’ll happen. We never expected Magic Kingdom to stop with the 8 am openings in the first place.
Many readers have doubted this zig when they zag approach to Magic Kingdom park days and question whether it’ll stop working as “word gets out.” Some even instead opt for the counter-counterintuitive approach of avoiding Magic Kingdom. But in plain terms, that’s just the intuitive approach…and it’s what the vast majority of Magic Kingdom visitors will do.
While I certainly wish more people would heed my warnings and follow my advice, this blog is not that influential. If Walt Disney World visitors were following this blog’s suggestions on any meaningful scale, Country Bear Jamboree would have perpetual 90 minute waits, Sanaa would be the most coveted ADR, Chester & Hester would be out of business, and Mickey would’ve had his chef’s hat revoked by now. None of those things have even come close to happening.
Most park-goers aren’t reading blogs like this, and many of those who do read don’t follow the advice for a variety of reasons. Don’t overthink it or try playing 4D chess–this strategy has worked for at least the last decade. It’s highly unlikely that 2023 will be the year things suddenly change.
Now that we’ve explained the why of this, here’s the list of least-crowded dates at Magic Kingdom for the remainder of 2023:
- September 8, 2023
- September 10, 2023
- September 12, 2023
- September 15, 2023
- September 17, 2023
- September 19, 2023
- September 22, 2023
- September 24, 2023
- September 26, 2023
- September 28, 2023
- September 29, 2023
October 2023
- October 1, 2023
- October 3, 2023
- October 5, 2023
- October 6, 2023
- October 9, 2023
- October 10, 2023
- October 12, 2023
- October 13, 2023
- October 15, 2023
- October 17, 2023
- October 19, 2023
- October 20, 2023
- October 22, 2023
- October 24, 2023
- October 26, 2023
- October 27, 2023
- October 29, 2023
- October 31, 2023
November 2023
- November 1, 2023
- November 9, 2023
- November 10, 2023
- November 13, 2023
- November 14, 2023
- November 16, 2023
- November 17, 2023
- November 19, 2023
- November 21, 2023
- November 22, 2023
- November 26, 2023
- November 28, 2023
- November 30, 2023
December 2023
- December 1, 2023
- December 3, 2023
- December 5, 2023
- December 7, 2023
- December 8, 2023
- December 10, 2023
- December 12, 2023
- December 14, 2023
- December 15, 2023
- December 17, 2023
- December 19, 2023
- December 21, 2023
- December 22, 2023
As for the most crowded dates, it’s basically just the opposite of the above–the dates that are not listed. In particular, you should be mindful of non-party dates that are sandwiched between or among party dates. This is a common red flag from mid-October through December 2023, when Party Season “expands” from 2-3 days per week to 3-4 days per week.
The schedule can vary around holiday weeks, but days that are typically going to be worst are Mondays and Wednesdays. Monday because it’s been the busiest day in Magic Kingdom throughout 2023–and because there are usually parties on Sunday and Tuesday. Wednesday because, even though it’s less busy than Monday for most of the year, there are often parties on Tuesday as well as Thursday and Friday. That means Wednesday is frequently the one day out of a 4 day stretch to not close early during Party Season.
In previous years, it used to be the case that Saturdays were the worst day of the week at Magic Kingdom during Party Season. That may end up being true again during the heart of the holiday season, but we’re not seeing that happen yet. See Why Are Weekends So Slow at Walt Disney World? for an explanation of the new-normal for Saturdays and Sundays that has emerged in 2023.
Another thing to note is that the above least crowded list is relative to the dates within each week or general date range.
For example, Magic Kingdom will be less busy during the daytime hours on September 15 (party day) than it is on September 11 (non-party day). That’s a pretty safe prediction that I’m incredibly comfortable making, and with a high degree of confidence. (Well, at least barring a hurricane scare or some other unforeseen circumstance.)
However, if you asked me which day will be busier, September 11 (non-party day) or November 13 (party day), my honest answer would be “I don’t know.” The former is occurring during the slowest stretch of the early fall off-season during a time when most days–even ones when there’s no MNSSHP–should be relatively manageable. The latter is following Veterans Day weekend at the start of the Christmas season, at a time that’s typically busier.
In other words, if you’re a local who has a wide open calendar and wants to pick an assortment of dates based upon absolute crowd levels and nothing else, aim for the earlier dates in September. There’s a strong probability that those will end up having the lowest wait times of all dates on the list when the dust settles.
In actuality, we doubt many people plan or think that way. For starters, choosing nothing but early to mid-September visits would be pretty brutal. The weather is usually at its worst this time of year, with higher heat and humidity, and a greater likelihood of rain and storms.
For another thing, who is going to frontload their Halloween visits in mid-September, and then skip the entirety of October through Christmas? I’m sure this fictional person actually exists–Walt Disney World fans are an interesting bunch!–but that type of use case is an extreme outlier. Most normal visitors, whether locals or tourists, want to know which dates within a given range will be best and worst. And that’s what this covers!
Point being, crowd levels are not static on the aforementioned list of the least crowded dates. Magic Kingdom tends to get progressively busier over the course of Party Season, but even that is a generalization. There will be slower windows between holiday weeks throughout November and December 2023.
The good news is that even as party days get busier (relative to dates earlier in the Party Season), the increase tends to be even greater for non-party dates. Stated differently, the gap in wait times actually increases on non-party vs. party days in October through December. That’s due to a mix of higher crowd levels as a whole during those months and more party nights each week–thus consolidating crowds on fewer non-party days.
For example, Magic Kingdom’s crowd level might end up being 1/10 with an average wait time of 25 minutes on the party day of September 15. On the non-party Monday of September 11 only a few days earlier, it could be 4/10 with an average wait time of 32 minutes and crowd level of 3/10. That’s a difference of 7 minutes.
On the party day of November 13, Magic Kingdom’s average wait time could be 35 minutes or a 6/10 crowd level. However, the non-party day of November 15 likely will spike significantly, possibly to a crowd level of 9/10 or 10/10 and an average wait time of 45 minutes or higher. Even though the crowd levels and average waits are significantly higher than their September counterparts, the benefit of choosing the least-crowded date actually increased, as the gap in wait times grew to 10 minutes.
For what it’s worth, this isn’t just me randomly manufacturing numbers. This is exactly what happened last year. The above hypotheticals were arrived upon by looking at last year’s wait times data and adjusting for day-of-week differences in 2023. Similar patterns played out in 2019, too. (Data from 2020-2021 is too full of anomalies to be useful or predictive of anything.)
All of that might be hard to follow, but the bottom line is that you’ll enjoy 1/10 to 3/10 crowd levels by doing Magic Kingdom on party days for about the next month. After that, crowd levels will increase–but despite that, you stand to gain even more by visiting on party days since crowd levels will spike even worse on non-party days. So simply stick to party days for the lowest possible crowds in Magic Kingdom from August through late December!
Ultimately, that’s why we strongly recommend visiting Magic Kingdom during the daytime hours of both Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party and Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party. Hopefully “showing our work” on some of this helps you make more sense of this dynamic, and why it’ll almost certainly continue to be true for the remainder of 2023.
The bottom line is that there’s no reason to believe days when the Magic Kingdom closes at 6 pm will be busier than days the park closes at 10 pm (or hopefully 11 pm once the heart of party season arrives). Crowd levels and average wait times from 2023 thus far and the entirety of last year’s Party Season are pretty conclusive on this. It’s also corroborated by years of data from 2019 and earlier. And that’s just from a numbers perspective, which does not measure “feels like” crowds. From heaps of anecdotal experience, we can assure you that the gap is even greater there–especially on Main Street before and after Happily Ever After.
Of course, this is just the objective angle. There are still compelling subjective arguments in favor of doing Magic Kingdom on non-party days, especially if you don’t have Park Hopper tickets and value evenings in the park. And that’s totally understandable! Our focus here is primarily on the numbers, as many fans and visitors see the calendar–and an extra 3-4 hours in Magic Kingdom–and draw the entirely logical conclusion that they’re better off with those longer days. The problem is that this is the thought process of most guests, and you can actually come out ahead by zigging when they zag!
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YOUR THOUGHTS
Does this convince you that you can, from an objective perspective, come out ahead by doing party shortened days at Magic Kingdom? Or, are you still unpersuaded, favoring the longer day and subjective superiority of nighttime in Magic Kingdom and getting to see Happily Ever After? Is September through December 2023 going to be the timeframe that defies historical precedent and logic, with days of MNSSHP and MVMCP being busier? Do you agree or disagree with our assessment? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback—even when you disagree with us—is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
If you were choosing between Thur or Fri at MK where both days are party days, which day would you choose or does it not really matter? Wed and Sat are both non-party days. Thanks!
After the reading the blog, I was strongly considered switching my Magic Kingdom day to Monday, Labor Day. I decided not to not because I didn’t believe it but because I had planning fatigue at that point! (should have read the blog sooner) I also realized that the marginal cost of park hopper could just be put towards Genie+, ILL etc. It turned out great, did every ride except TTPM (forgot that its not open during extended hours) and Space Mountain (closed all day).
Yup, we also did it on Labor Day. Even though it didn’t open at 8am (much to my chagrin, and my husband’s delight… (not an early rising fan)), we got Mine Train, Winnie the Pooh, Space Mountain (with LL but we didn’t need it), and thru Tron via VQ, by like 10am. We did use G+ and that was helpful for Peter Pan and Jungle Cruise, but everything else was a walk-on. And we bounced at 3:30, after watching the delightful 3pm parade with a perfect view that we just happened upon (weren’t trying for it) for a swim break and then an evening at Epcot.
And our last “ride” was Country Bears that afternoon, by the choice of my kids… (I thought you’d enjoy that tidbit)
Yup. It works. We visited MK on a party day last week and it was pretty quiet – wait times decent – a great day. Thanks for the advice, Tom.
We’re a family of 5 (kids are 8,6, and 4) doing what will most likely be our only big trip to Disney. We’re trying to see as much as we can during our trip. Would you still recommend against Genie+ on a party day for us?
Visited MK on Labor Day, a party day and the first day with no earlier park opening (so, regular opening time of 9am and Early Entry at 8:30). Even so, the park was very much NOT crowded, was able to be in and out of 7DMT in 9 minutes first thing, most of the rides were walk-on, and even the headliners were well under an hour even at midday. Tom is right! Listen to Tom!
Does this thinking apply to Jollywood nights at Hollywood Studios too? We should do Hollywood Studios in the morning on those days and then hop somewhere else (maybe Epcot)?
Hi Tom, thanks for another informative post! Your advice has been very helpful and I appreciate the time and effort put into each article. Like Lindsay, I am wondering about the best day(s) to do MK during Nov 11-18.
Based on the slower weekends, you previously recommended doing MK on Sunday (11/12) and Thursday (11/16), with the understanding that things might change during the party season.
I currently have reserved HS on Sat (11/11), MK Sun (11/12), AK Mon (11/13), resort day/Disney Springs Tues (11/14), Epcot Wed(11/15), MK Thurs(11/16) and HS Fri (11/17).
Taking into consideration Veterans Day weekend crowds, party nights, etc, do you think that I should stay with Sunday the 12th for MK? I understand that it may be too early to know what will happen with weekend crowds by then, but I will be making dining reservations in 6 days so wanted to check with you since you’re the best and most trusted source I know!
Coming from Australia for our once-in-a-lifetime trip and absolutely following your advice!! Already booked 2 non-party days currently showing 4/10 crowd levels. I am actually following your advice on many things… staying at Wilderness Lodge (Boulder Ridge by renting DVC points), plan to see the huge Christmas tree and nap in front of the fireplace. Also hoping to get a reservation for Whispering Canyon and Artist Point. Your blog has been my #1 source. Thank you 🙂
Disney dynamics are very interesting — just when you think you have it figured out (including heavily utilizing this site), things still don’t always line up with expectations.
My wife and I just returned from an 8/26 thru 9/02 Disney vacation at Pop Century. We did early morning entry every day (worked as expected), along with doing MK on a party night (Tuesday 8/29). Very low crowds and did not need Genie+. Stayed for the MNSSHP party (crowds stormed in after 4:00PM, also expected). The major variable dynamic is DHS.
We did lots of early morning rides at DHS, then crowds became noticeable after 11:00AM — we expected this. What was not expected is the downtime of the DHS rides which destroyed the ride dynamics. The MDE app is an equalizing force — while the majority of guests may not be savvy following blogs like this, it is an equal opportunity ride offender. People DO pay attention to the app, so when a headliner went down (and they did!), it would artificially create unexpected demand to another headliner but in minutes! The Tower of Terror ride in particular was troublesome — 2 of the 4 elevators would go out of service, and the ride times would zoom from 30 minutes to 105 minutes in literally minutes! I was in the line and rode this ride 4 times in the morning, and observed this dynamic first hand. Same with Slinky Dog, Mick and Minnie, and Rockin Roller Coaster. At one point around 1:00PM, we happened to be close to RRC and we noticed the wait time was 15 minutes. We made a beeline for this — but so did many other guests. Within 5 minutes there were crowds very clearly streaming to this ride, and the wait time zoomed to 45 minutes. This dynamic played over and over.
All in all a good trip. We go at this time of years for the lower crowds, paying the price in melting in the heat. We dodged Hurricane Idalia on Tuesday evening (8/29 MK party night) but got hammered on Wednesday at AK. A good tradeoff — Avatar was a walk on and we rode it 4 times in a row but got caught in a torrential downpour while on Expedition Everest. And the crowds were better behaved than I recall previously — just a few entitled guests and the attempted gaming of the disabled angle (one young mother forgot she was disabled and jumped up on her scooter and waited for her son Scooter to join her on the seat). LOTS of UK visitors — this pushed the crowds higher than last year during this time — it definitely changed the crowd dynamic.
A great time to go to Disney.
Not a MK question, but will a day at AK, 9/17, when the park opens at 7:30am, be busier then picking a non-weekend day with regular hours of 830-7?
WE are those fictional people frontloading Halloween in mid-September, because we rely on your advice! We are also delighted that, for whatever reason, the day we’re going to be in MK, Sept 15, is scheduled to open 8am.
Thanks for the great info, Tom! Surprised to see that the opening hours aren’t being pushed back to 8am in September! Do you think the early entry will not be as productive as expected? Like maybe don’t start with the mine train shuffle?
Dear Tom, Is there any way to explain why the parking lots are completely full from dawn to dusk at the local hotels on Disney property? We were there for this Labor Day weekend, and stayed at Pop Century resort and found parking to be quite packed. We had a wedding commitment this weekend so we did not visit the parks, but did take the time to visit several resorts for dining, such as Wilderness Lodge, the Polynesian, Coronado Springs, and Beach Walk. We found every parking lot incredibly full even more so than this past Christmas when there seemed lots of empty spaces. Is there any reason for this?
You really surprised me with the line, ” For visitors without Park Hopper tickets (which is a lot of people)”
I thought most people did park hopper tickets. We have always done hopper tickets. Thanks for this update.
Thanks Tom!!! You are the best!!!
So you think Monday November 13th is a safer bet than Sunday November 12th (according to the dates above)?
Do you think Monday November 13th the likelihood of needing genie + will be higher? Since it’s coming off/attached to Veterans Day weekend. Touring plans has it as a 4 crowd level. Columbus Day weekend MK party days vs. non party days will follow the same timeline so I’ll be watching closely!
Any thoughts on HS crowd patterns with Jollywood nights/Veterans Day crowds/MK parties November 11-19th? Just really really busy I assume!!!
Thanks again!!!!
Any idea what percentage of park passes sold are park hopper vs single park?
I was at Magic Kingdom today (9/4) and between the nonexistent Labor Day crowds and it being a party night, the park was a virtual ghost town! Space Mountain was 5 minutes and even Peter Pan was only 25 minutes! I have drunk the Kool aid- MK on Party days is the best!
I took your advice and went to Magic Kingdom this past Friday and most rides were walk on. My son was thrilled as we did SDMT 4 times with very little wait and got boarding group 19 for Tron. The crowds started pouring in at 4pm as expected so we hopped to Hollywood Studios and had a bunch of stacked LL rides there so got all the rides done at both parks.
Is there a good option for viewing the fireworks from outside mk, either from a resort restaurant or other location?
All of the monorail resorts have both rooms and restaurants with fireworks views ($$$$ option). You can also go to the TTC or to the beach at the Polynesian to view fireworks, although I understand those places have gotten much busier in recent years.
I would like to know the best place to fireworks outside MK, also!