Paid Lightning Lanes & Genie+ Replacing Free FastPass at Disney World

Walt Disney World officially announced free FastPass+ is permanently retired, to be replaced by paid Genie+ and Lightning Lane line-skipping access soon. This post shares what WDW has revealed is coming to Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Hollywood Studios, and Animal Kingdom. Plus, our commentary on impact to crowds & standby wait times, winners & losers, and comparisons to MaxPass, Premier Access, and more.

There’s a ton of ground to cover here, so we will very quickly recap what has happened in the last year with FastPass+ at Walt Disney World. Prior to the reopening, Disney temporarily suspended FastPass and a range of other things, many of which have since returned. Officially, the explanation given was to utilize the queue space for physical distancing.

That’s not quite how it worked in practice, but that’s immaterial to this post. For the last several months, physical distancing has been gone, with skyrocketing crowds and wait times over the summer–and similar forecasts for October through December. As such, Walt Disney World has announced a permanent paid replacement for free FastPass+, which will launch around the start of the World’s Most Magical Celebration for Walt Disney World’s 50th Anniversary on October 1, 2021. (As always, see our Guide to Walt Disney World’s 50th Anniversary for more info!)

Per Walt Disney World, the Genie app is coming in Fall 2021 as a complimentary and convenient new digital service designed to make planning easier, offer more flexibility, and better tools to help you make the most of your visit. Walt Disney World has made significant investments in this new technology, which guides you through the theme parks with tips that can help you reduce time in lines, discover new things, and take the guesswork out of your day.

Built right into the My Disney Experience app, the Disney Genie service will maximize your park time, so you can have more fun. It includes a personalized itinerary feature that will quickly and seamlessly map out an entire day. From specific attractions, foodie experiences and entertainment, to general interests like Disney princesses, villains, Pixar, Star Wars, thrill rides and more — just tell Disney Genie what you want to do and it will do the planning for you.

Here are a few more features of the Disney Genie app feature in My Disney Experience:

  • Get Itinerary Updates from Morning to Night: Disney Genie will continue to update your itinerary throughout your day, so you can be more spontaneous and go with the flow.
  • Find Your Favorites at a Glance: Create your very own personal tip board to instantly see your favorites. It will display current AND forecasted future wait times, helping you predict when you might experience quicker entry to attractions.
  • Enjoy More Flexibility and Fun: Disney Genie brings existing planning features together in one place. Join a virtual queue at certain attractions, make dining and experience reservations, mobile order food at many locations, get help from a virtual assistant and more.

For even more convenience and flexibility, there are two other options for enjoying the four Walt Disney World theme parks, through the Lightning Lane queue, which will replace FastPass+ queues at Walt Disney World:

  • Disney Genie+ service (available for purchase): For the price of $15 per ticket per day at Walt Disney World Resort, you can choose the next available time to arrive at a variety of attractions and experiences using the Lightning Lane entrance. You can make one selection at a time, throughout the day — from classics like Haunted Mansion to thrill rides like Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and newer favorites like Millennium Falcon: Smugglers Run. This convenient option is the next evolution of the fan-favorite Disney MaxPass service. Disney Genie+ will also include Disney parks-themed audio experiences and photo features to capture your memories, such as augmented reality lenses that transform objects at Walt Disney World.
  • Individual attraction selections (available for purchase a la carte): Schedule a time to arrive at up to two highly demanded attractions each day using the Lightning Lane entrance, like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at Magic Kingdom (subject to limited availability; attractions not included with Disney Genie+). Pricing for this option will vary by date, attraction and park and will be announced closer to launch.

Lightning Lane selections will be made on the same day of your visit and can be used across multiple theme parks, and will support the Park Hopper option. Guests staying at a Walt Disney World resort hotel will be able to purchase and schedule an individual Lightning Lane attraction at 7 am, ahead of off-site guests, who will be able to do so when the park opens.

All guests will be able to make their first Genie+ selection at 7 am on the day of their visit, regardless of whether staying off-site or on-site. Subsequent selections will follow the legacy FastPass “rules.”

Annual Passholders will be able to purchase Lightning Lane or add Genie+ on a per-day basis, just like regular theme park ticket holders. At launch, there will not be a yearly add-on option for Genie+ for Walt Disney World APs. (That seems likely to come at some point in the not-too-distant future, though.)

In addition to the Lightning Lanes, all attractions will continue to offer a traditional standby queue or a virtual queue, available at select attractions like Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance and Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure once that opens in Epcot on October 1, 2021.

While unclear from the official announcement, it’s our understanding that the 2 most popular attractions in each park will be sold a la carte and not available via Genie+. All other previous FastPass attractions will be exclusively available via Genie+ and not sold individually (so it’s an either/or thing).

With Disney Genie+ and Lightning Lane, FastPass+ will be retired. You can choose from all new options, a mix of them or none at all, and continue to have a great experience no matter how you decide to plan your day at Walt Disney World.

Walt Disney World is also making some enhancements to the Disability Access Service (DAS) program, including new options to enroll in the program pre-arrival and for DAS participants to select attractions directly in the app. These options will be available in addition to the existing, in-person DAS program.

This all might sound confusing, and it is. We’re going to distinguish between Genie+ and Lightning Lanes as if they’re two separate products (and disregard the free Genie app feature entirely). In reality, Lightning Lanes are the replacement for physical FastPass queues, and are accessible via the flat-rate Genie+ app feature or a la carte purchases. For now, it’s simply easier and clearer to refer to one as Genie+ and the other as Lightning Lanes. We wouldn’t be surprised if that becomes the common practice among fans and the general public, as well.

With that out of the way, here’s how we feel about Lightning Lanes, both via Genie+ and a la carte purchases…

Our Commentary

Before sitting down to write the commentary, we combed through the most controversial Walt Disney World news stories of the last decade-plus that we’ve been writing this blog. Judging by reader reactions, the single biggest “tipping point” was when Walt Disney World first introduced overnight parking fees for its resorts.

While a lot of internet angst is bluster, that decision actually led to plenty of fans staying off-site. We personally know a few people who visit annually and have sworn off on-site hotels ever since. Outrage over the introduction of paid FastPass–and the number of fans for whom this truly is the last straw–will likely surpass the introduction of per-night parking charges.

With that in mind, we’re approaching this commentary delicately, treading as lightly as possible. We know so many loyal and lifelong Walt Disney World fans are going to be devastated by this news. Genie+ and Lightning Lane might be the end of the road–or at least result in lifelong visitors going through the five stages of grief. With that said, one thought has kept running through our minds since hearing the details of Genie+ and Lightning Lane.

This could have been so much worse.

That’s not to minimize any anger or try to spin this in a positive light. Even if I wanted to do that (I don’t), that would overlook one of life’s most fundamental principles: money talks, BS walks.

You know that the Genie+ system, no matter how magical the marketing puffery, will cost money and FastPass+ was free. That’s it–bottom line–period.

It’s only to say that paid FastPass has been an inevitability at Walt Disney World for a while–long before the closure and “temporary” suspension of FastPass+ we’ve been warning readers that this would happen and urging people to prepare for this day. The writing has been on the wall for almost 4 years, with the first trial run being offered to Club Level guests. During that time, Disneyland launching MaxPass to great success, and other parks sold FastPass bundles.

Then came the D23 Expo two summers ago, and the announcement of the Genie app for Walt Disney World. While pitched vaguely, the purpose of Genie was to up-sell guests and assist in crowd management. There was no other reason for Disney to invest in yet another new app unless it will offer direct ROI.

Over the last several months, there have been credible rumors of competing proposals for paid FastPass, including the system now in use at Disneyland Paris. In recent weeks, we’ve heard specifics on several, and all were worse than this, offering fewer benefits and higher price points. In fact, whether you’ve been closely following the paid FastPass rumors or have just assumed free FastPass+ would return probably strongly impacts your initial response to this.

Those in the former camp might be breathing a sigh of relief or thinking paid FastPass is not as bad as you feared. By contrast, Walt Disney World fans who expected free FastPass+ to be reinstated might be heartbroken right now. Different stages of grief and all that.

We have processed this grief before, as Disneyland locals back when MaxPass was first announced. At first, we were vehemently opposed to MaxPass on principle. Among other things, we feared the introductory pricing would increase and MaxPass would put those not paying the upcharge at a distinct disadvantage. It felt like a cash grab.

Then we used MaxPass and were hooked. All of those concerns didn’t magically vanish, but in practice the system worked very well, while offering strategic benefits to tourists with limited time who were willing to make a relatively minor splurge (in the grand scheme of a Disneyland vacation). On balance, MaxPass struck us as a net positive, albeit a “warts and all” one.

While there are obvious similarities between Genie+ and MaxPass, there are also glaring differences. Namely, MaxPass had a free alternative–legacy paper FastPass that anyone could use. It didn’t offer quite the same upsides, but with a bit of hustle, Disneyland guests who didn’t pay extra could still put in the “work” and beat the crowds.

That’s a distinction that absolutely cannot be overlooked. Most Walt Disney World fans could probably stomach some form of paid FastPass if it didn’t come at the expense of the free system. Or if there were legitimate and worthwhile perks for on-site hotel guests. Making FastPass upcharge or nothing means a very different response.

As for how Genie+ and Lightning Lanes will impact standby wait times and the guest experience at Walt Disney World, that depends on how many guests make those purchases. As a reminder, the ballpark FastPass-to-standby ratio was 80:20–meaning that for every 10 parties boarding an attraction, 8 were pulled from the FastPass queue and 2 were pulled from standby. This is why standby lines moved at a snail’s pace with FastPass, and move constantly without it. That 80:20 ratio also meant that a lot of guests were taking advantage of FastPass+, which should be no surprise given that it was free.

In our most recent analysis of Premier Access at Disneyland Paris, we discussed utilization rate of that, predicting that only a small percentage of guests (5% for some attractions) would purchase the a la carte upcharge as compared to those who utilized the free FastPass system.

Walt Disney World charging individually for only a couple of headliners in each park changes the equation a bit. It’s a smart move on Disney’s part to make those the only a la carte upcharges and bundle everything else. Those attractions are the ones first-time and infrequent guests are more likely to splurge to experience. The more competitive (as compared to Paris) price range also suggests to me that Walt Disney World will have a greater degree of success in upselling the a la carte Lightning Lane.

However, I’d still expect fewer than 20% of all guests to buy individual Lightning Lane access. Of course, it’ll vary based on posted wait times, season, etc. If the ratio is 20:80 (essentially flipping FastPass numbers), that’ll mean shorter standby waits in constantly moving lines. I don’t want to rehash that entire analysis since this is already going to be long, but buying individual line skipping access is going to be a non-starter for the vast majority of guests for a variety of reasons.

Genie+ is a different ballgame entirely and will undoubtedly be purchased by a significantly higher percentage of guests. As discussed in that same prior analysis, we predicted that Walt Disney World would use some form of bundle because it obfuscates per attraction costs and since all-inclusive packages are incredibly popular with Walt Disney World’s guest demographics. Genie+ is that bundle, and it’s a savvy one.

Again, the comparison to the former MaxPass system makes sense. Prior to the price increase on MaxPass early last year, I had heard MaxPass was viewed as an incredible success by the company due to its high adoption rate, which was still under half of all guests. This was with every attraction included in the system, and Disneyland having far greater ‘ride density’ than three parks at Walt Disney World.

Moreover, Disneyland’s demographics are incredibly different from Walt Disney World’s. In addition to significantly more Annual Passholders, the average length of visit is significantly shorter, and per guest spending is lower because the overwhelming majority of visitors stay off-site, tourists included.

It’s thus much more palatable for a family to splurge on efficiency if the total cost is an extra $160 for the duration of a shorter trip–especially when that family only spent $150 per night on a hotel within walking distance of the parks and can easily eat 2 meals per day off-property.

At Walt Disney World, guests are generally visiting for significantly longer periods of time and spending more on accommodations and food. The surcharge for duration-of-trip efficiency via Genie+ would be $300 for the average family, and could be $420 or more for those doing longer vacations. Again, that’s on top of higher base vacation costs, meaning many families will already be nearer their budget limit and either need to reallocate spending or splurge even more.

It’s easy to say the total trip cost for Genie+ is still less expensive for a family than a single After Hours event, and those have been selling out. That’s definitely a valid (and selling!) point. However, that’s still a comparatively niche offering with significantly smaller potential market than a service like Genie+. It’s very difficult to predict how many guests will initially purchase and use Genie+, but my ballpark guess would be about 33% on any given day with variances based on crowds, etc. Probably generally higher for Magic Kingdom and lower for the other parks.

This is an initial adoption rate, with my prediction being that Genie+ use and “favorability” will increase over time. The initial response will be overwhelmingly negative, just as it was at Disneyland when MaxPass was announced. In addition to being upset by something previously being free now costing money, many will lament the loss of pre-planning their FastPass+ selections and having the peace of mind in knowing they have certain popular attractions “locked-in” prior to their trips.

To be sure, there are FastPass+ power users and diehard planners who will remain entrenched in that belief. Those Walt Disney World fans likely are disproportionate readers of blogs like this one. However, that’s a vocal minority of all guests–far from a majority. Most average guests plan days in advance–or even upon arrival–not 6 months ahead of time.

For first-timers, Walt Disney World vacations are a morass of convoluted policies and things to know. These guests will likely favor Genie+ as it levels the playing field to a degree. To them, a paid system will be better than a free one where they’re shut out of most popular attractions because they’re not seasoned on the ins and outs of FastPass booking.

Nevertheless, we’d expect many ride or die FastPass+ fans to eventually give Genie+ a try and come around on it. No matter how staunchly anyone might oppose Genie+ now, history bears this out. At Walt Disney World, the original FastPass was controversial among fans in 1999, before becoming beloved. FastPass+ was likewise a reviled replacement among fans who had mastered the paper FastPass system.

Disneyland’s launch of MaxPass is an even better example given the similarities between Genie+ and that. The initial announcement was met with outrage and complaints, but its use and popularity quickly increased as Disneyland diehards used it in the parks. We know because that was us! After hating it, we actually used MaxPass, were hooked on it, and became MaxPass cheerleaders.

The lazy commentary here would be that “Disney fans are resistant to change.” While true, there’s (again) the critical distinction that something free is being lost and replaced by a paid-only option. (Even with MaxPass, there was still a very viable free alternative.) Nevertheless, the best and easiest way for Walt Disney World to dispel a lot of complaints would be to bundle “free” Genie+ into hotel discounts this fall and winter. There’s no better way to win skeptics over and get fans “hooked” on Genie+.

Finally, there’s how this impacts on-site guests. We’ve been discussing Walt Disney World’s Disappearing On-Site Advantage for years now. Several changes have been announced in the last several months–end of Disney’s Magical Express, Extra Magic Hours transforming into early entry and extended evening hours, no free MagicBands–that will push more guests off-site.

It’s too early to say how the ~2 hour advance booking window for individual Lightning Lane attractions will change that equation. This is obviously a much shorter timeframe than in the past under FastPass+ and will essentially offer a one ride head-start…assuming there’s so much demand that Lightning Lane attractions sell out, which I doubt will happen.

I’m inclined to predict the totality of the aforementioned changes will negatively impact on-site occupancy in 2022, but not immediately. Walt Disney World’s 50th Anniversary will buoy bookings for at least October through December.

Personally, if it came down to splurging on a Disney hotel or staying off-site and using the money saved on lodging for things like Genie+, nicer meals, special events, etc., that’s what I’d do. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to justify the prices Walt Disney World is charging for its resorts. (Then again, Disney could quickly “correct” this by rolling out Free Dining or other deals if occupancy numbers slip in 2022.)

Regardless, if you’ve never even considered venturing outside the “Disney Bubble,” we would strongly encourage you to rethink that and check out our Off-Site v. On-Site Walt Disney World Hotel Comparison for a balanced assessment of the pros & cons. We are in the process of doing stays at every Universal Orlando resort, and will have those reviews starting in the coming weeks.

Ultimately, that’s a lot of analysis for something that hasn’t even launched yet and is still a developing story. We’ll have more follow-up commentary based on new details that will inevitably emerge, reader questions & concerns, and more. In the meantime, our past articles about the return or replacement of FastPass+ and Premier Access announcement contain a lot of relevant commentary.

Personally, I don’t think Genie+ or Lightning Lanes will be cataclysmic or have as negative of consequences for those who don’t buy the “paid FastPasses” as many fans anticipate. To the contrary, I think this will result in a better standby line experience with constantly-moving lines and (generally) shorter wait times for most guests. Similarly, Genie+ will be a superior system for those who were not FastPass+ power users–so again, most guests.

My biggest disappointment is that Genie+ and Lightning Lanes are entirely paid, replacing something that was entirely free. That’s impossible to overlook. Moreover, this seems like a continuation of upcharge and nickel & diming practices that I hate. There’s also the reality that Walt Disney World is selling solutions to problems it has created. Over the years, fans have bought into the lie that Walt Disney World is raising prices to reduce crowds; as with ticket price increases, that’ll likely be one “positive” narrative that emerges from this.

However, Walt Disney World has also slashed park hours while attendance has increased by several millions of guests per year, cut entertainment and other crowd-absorbing offerings. If Walt Disney World really were concerned with controlling crowds (they aren’t), increasing operating hours, improving ride capacity, bringing back entertainment & shows, or opening more attractions would be the best solutions. Genie+ and Lightning Lane will offer a better experience for some guests, but it’s hard to muster much praise when the more obvious solutions that would improve things for everyone are not being undertaken.

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YOUR THOUGHTS

What do you think of Genie+ and Lightning Lanes? Better, worse, or about the same as you expected? Will you purchase the bundled access, a la carte line-skipping, neither, or both? Do you prefer fast-moving standby lines only, or the FastPass and standby combo? Interested in how Walt Disney World will implement the new system? Agree or disagree with our assessment? Other thoughts or concerns? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

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  1. And just like that, the magic is gone. This may b the straw that breaks the camel’s back. There seems to b value w maxpass bc it includes all rides and many still use the free option. But, genie+ and lightning lane feels like I’m not getting a good value. I’m being nickel and dimed. I love Universal and it’s looking better and better all the time. And we love their free express pass when we stay at Hard Rock.

  2. It doesn’t sound very relaxing or enjoyable to have to frantically try to schedule rides first thing in the morning with no guarantee you’ll get a time that works around your food reservations for a favorite ride. The stress of planning a vacation should be done before you’re on the vacation so you don’t have to stress about being up at the crack of dawn or if your wifi will work and you don’t miss out. Stand by for some people like me is intolerable after recovering from but not really recovering from Covid . This just sounds stressful and not fun.

  3. So…. Paying even more money for just one pass, not with the more popular rides, all under the reason that it will make all the lines shorter? I’m trying to do the math on the “shorter lines” idea. If 100 people are in the standby line, it will take x time to get through. If 20 people are on the lightning pass, with more preference and thus a lower time, and 80 are on standby, doesn’t that make the wait times LONGER for standby? Lightning lane will be say, 2 lightning to 1 standby (for illustrative purposes), so it’ll be like there is now 120 people (40 (2 to 1 preference) plus the 80 in standby) trying to get in, not just the 100. Does that make sense? How exactly does it make it shorter for standby? There will be preference to the lightning line, as was the FP+ line. This doesn’t make much sense…. More money, less options, more wait times…. How will this lure any of the AP holders back or attract tourism when Universal is right around the corner? This seems like a bad move mid-pandemic. I guess it is time to look into Universal.

  4. Here’s how I look at it- this is all optional. I chose to save up and go to WDW. I chose to stay on property. I’m choosing to make ADR’s and spend a lot on meals. I’m going to choose to use Genie + and maybe some lightning lanes depending on crowd levels. No one is making me do any of it. I’m doing it because I want to have the best experience.
    I liked MaxPass the couple times I used it in DL. I haven’t been to WDW since 1994. My kids are 18 and 14, they’ve never been to WDW. I’m spending the money how I want to spend it. I don’t have a say in the prices they charge. It is what it is and I can choose to pay it or not. So can you.

  5. Ok. After re-reading Tom’s post and reading comments, the Genie+ is only $15/ticket. I was confused because I saw prices for a la cart that said it was $9 to ride one ride. Am I understanding this correctly?

  6. Above you wrote, “In addition to the Lightning Lanes, all attractions will continue to offer a traditional standby queue or a virtual queue, available at select attractions like Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance and Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure once that opens in Epcot on October 1, 2021.” Are you saying RRA will be a virtual queue like RotR? If that will be the case, people will need to know so they can make park reservations for Epcot. I’ve made my reservations and not added Epcot as I was going to park hop as you have suggested in your park guide. The above statement is a little ambiguous. I just need a little clarification. Thank you

  7. Normally when I return from a trip to WDW I start itching very shortly afterward for when my next trip to WDW will be. I have gone to WDW at least once every year (except 2020) for the past 15 years. My last trip was in March. Since then, there have been so many new changes announced, and many, if not most, or them just seem to be about Disney grabbing more and more money. I have to say, it’s been almost 6 months and I don’t have a single desire to return to WDW. There are so many other vacation options out there that are just seeming much more magical at this point. I have been a lot of times, rode RotR twice last trip and at this point am not really feeling it anymore. We stayed offsite at the Swan on our last trip and I can’t imagine ever wasting my money to stay onsite again if I do ever return.

  8. We are Disneyland regulars, living in Oregon. We made 2 trips to WDW in 2008 and 2010. Shortly after our 2010 trip, Disney announced Magic Bands and Fastpass +. That was our last trip to WDW. We like some spontaneity to our trips, not having to plan what park and rides 60 days out. But being Disneyland regulars, we loved Maxpass!! Very easy to use and once you used your ride reservation you could immediately book another. Sometimes they were available immediately!! We very seldom had any problems getting the rides you wanted. With Maxpass you could not make your 1st reservation until you had actually entered one of the parks. After that, you did not even have to be on property. We would go back to our hotel in the afternoon and I could make a Maxpass reservation for evening. All this being said, now I have reason to hope I will be able to talk my hubby into going back to WDW!! This is a man I have a hard time talking into an ADR. This might do it. Keeping fingers crossed.

  9. I am a planner, and planned our trip over 9 months using Tom’s advice back in 2018, as well as Touring Plans. We went the week after Thanksgiving (Tom’s favorite), and got to do everything we wanted and more. I definitely feel like this might penalize early planners, but I’ll let Tom help us continue to beat the system. Thanks Tom for your optimistic attitude!

  10. I think we have all been confined for so long, that people are willing to pay extra to be in another world that is clearly overpriced, with very little perks. I certainly would not recommend the Star Wars dessert party. Star Wars Galactic Cruiser, immersive experience for 3 days and 2 nights….isn’t check in time is 3:45 pm, check out @ 11am, isn’t this really a 1day 2 night experience for $5,000? If staying @ a WDR, extra hours on certain days in a park, how do I know which park to reserve in advance before completely @ capacity?
    And by the way was it the Swan charging 33% extra for RESORT FEES. plus room, taxes and daily tip. Thank you for the heads up on this. We were hoping to hang out & hug up Disney characters Jan 2022, this may just become an unattainable dream.

  11. “Plus it sounds like we will be in our phone constantly trying to find out where to go!”
    And Genie will probably point everyone to the same thing, causing even more lines.

  12. I had to reread this to understand it and still am not sure I completely get it. I guess my biggest gripe besides paying for fast pass is that there is no guarantee that your going to get to ride the attraction you really want even with lightning pass. So am I going to pay thousands to go with my family and not find out if I get to ride my attraction till I get there. This can make for a terrible trip. They reduced it from 3 fast pass down to 2 lighting pass. The poor travel agents who need to try to get their clients tickets. Plus it sounds like we will be in our phone constantly trying to find out where to go!

  13. “Is the genie+ pricing 15 per person per day, or 15 per family per day?”

    per ticket, so in a sense, per person per day.

  14. I loved MaxPass at Disneyland and would have paid for that vs free FastPass having to plan months in advance at Disney World. I am disappointed, though, that with Genie+ you can only hold 1 ride pass at a time and not even for the most popular attractions, but with MaxPass I often had 2 or 3 rides lined up, especially when I took mid-day breaks and kept booking them every 90 min from my hotel room. I really wish Genie+ allowed that option but it doesn’t sound like it. I HATE the idea of paying per ride for Lightening Lanes though, especially for my family of 6!

  15. And to top it off they do it in time for the 50th just to pump every last cent put of our pockets. Greedy bastards.

  16. Not surprised that free fastpasses are gone forever. I’m probably one of the few that didn’t want them to come back and was hoping they would be replaced by a system similar to Universal since it’s convenient and still keeps the standby times reasonable when you want to ride something more than once. After reading all that the Genie App can do it almost seems like Disney will be phasing out the free vacation planners. Interested to hear what you think about this Tom! I have a few friends that do this and I’ve considered it myself but this app sounds like it can do all of that and even better since it can auto adjust right on the spot. I feel like Disney won’t continue to pay commissions to planners that offer their services for free since Genie can essentially do their job and do it slightly better in both the guest’s eyes (adjusting on the spot and suggesting things in real time) and in Disney’s eyes (tracking guests every move). We are debating on whether to keep our early November 2021 trip (Covid, masks, a child that can’t be vaccinated, lack of experiences for the price, etc.) but if we do end up going I’m interested to see how DAS works in combination with Genie+. We have DAS eligible family members and the skip the line at a preset time based on standby times feature sounds pretty much like Genie+. Curious to see if the DAS recipients are excluded from paying the Genie+ $15 per day or if the whole party is excluded since with DAS the whole party rides at once or if it’s something else all together.

  17. I am very concerned about the DAS. My son can’t handle all the confusion. I need to be able to plan things far in advance, so that I am comfortable and not showing angst on that day. He also can’t handle waiting on long lines without a lot of problems. So I now have to pay extra to have my son have an experience that will surely be filled with fits and anxiety. I am now seriously considering canceling my trip in December

  18. @Jeanne. Your stroller analogy doesn’t work here as disney guests have already paid for their park tickets. That money pays for the rides to work. What you suggest is that in addition to the mall charging you for the stroller, they will.now charge you by how many feet you use the stroller in. Guess youd be okay with that? 😉

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