WARNING: Disney World Crowds Can Feel “Dead” Compared to Tokyo Disneyland

Fantasy Springs put Tokyo Disney Resort on the radar of American fans. That’s a crazy sentence for us to write, as we’ve been praising the parks in Japan for over a decade and imploring Walt Disney World diehards to visit. Not only that, but as discussed in our Fantasy Springs Review, it’s like the 4th or 5th best area in Tokyo DisneySea.

But it’s also true. The new Frozen, Tangled and Peter Pan port-of-call has garnered buzz and attention of domestic Disney fans in a way unlike anything we’ve ever seen for the international parks. Part of this is the rise of social media, as more influencers and others are visiting Japan than ever before and shining a spotlight on TDR. Another wrinkle is that there are no major brand-new attractions opening at Walt Disney World or Disneyland this year, so Disney itself promoted Fantasy Springs in a way they never have of past OLC-owned additions.

The reasons, while interesting, are neither really here nor there. The point of this post is to give you a generalized warning about crowd levels at Tokyo Disney Resort. If you’ve followed the Japan parks even in passing, you’ve probably already heard some of these horror stories (it’s a common topic–right there with popcorn flavors). We’re going to break down the topic with a bit more nuance, explaining how it’s simultaneously worse and better than what you might’ve heard, current misconceptions about crowds, and what to expect going forward.

Fantasy Springs is the elephant in the room, so we might as well start there since a lot of you are probably planning around that and perhaps paying attention to how the crowds are ‘evolving’ around this blockbuster new port-of-call. Our biggest piece of advice about that: don’t.

Which is to say, don’t draw any conclusions about attendance trends or future crowds based on the current trajectory. Yes, it’s true that Standby Pass and Disney Premier Access have gotten less competitive for Fantasy Springs in last couple of months since the new area opened. Given this, you might be inclined to spot a trend and conclude that it’ll only continue getting easier as the months pass, and be a breeze by this fall or some random date in 2025.

We believe that is a mistake. For one thing, June and July have long been the calm before the storm, with intense summer crowds being later-arriving at Tokyo Disney Resort as compared to Walt Disney World or Disneyland. In our experience, June is consistently the slowest (and cheapest!) month of the year at TDR, with July not that far behind. With an extreme and extended heatwave this summer, it’s hard to imagine this general trend has changed.

Our bigger fear here is that history has repeated itself with the opening of Fantasy Springs, and that Tokyo DisneySea is actually less busy than normal because Japanese guests are avoiding the park due to the confusing and convoluted policies for accessing Fantasy Springs.

That there’s a similar phenomenon at play as with the opening summer of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge, but that no one is noticing because the Fantasy Springs attractions are still pretty popular and difficult to access (artificially so, I might add). This is causing people to overlook wait times in the rest of the park, which are actually skewing way below-average.

Taking this a step further, we worry that–like Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge–Tokyo Disney Resort will see a spike in crowds after the initial opening season, as many of those who were avoiding the opening rush and rules instead go a few months later to “avoid the crowds.” But instead, they’ll be part of the worst crowds of all. (The biggest red flag to me is that there was a rush to visit before Fantasy Springs opened, with many dates selling out, but not after.)

This expansion is unprecedented and it’s impossible to say what happens next with crowds, which is why I’m using words like “fear” and “worry” instead of making more definitive statements. But here’s one: my prediction is that October and November 2024 are busier at Tokyo Disney Resort as a whole–and even in Fantasy Springs specifically–than this June and July have been.

One way or another, we fully expect Fantasy Springs to be a challenging land to experience 5 years from now. (Yes, really.) The best comparison I can offer is to Universal Studios Japan, where timed entry is still in use for Super Nintendo World and probably will be for a while. The Wizarding World of Harry Potter still used timed entry for over 5 years after it opened at USJ. It wasn’t a daily occurrence, but it did happen.

The same will probably be true to some extent for Fantasy Springs in 2027 and maybe beyond. To be sure, it won’t be as bad as peak travel dates within the next year, but demand will still be high for the new port and its attractions for years to come. (We also expect the protocol to change and, hopefully, be relaxed.)

The bottom line is that if you’re expecting the current trajectory to continue with crowds and demand for Fantasy Springs, your expectations are probably unrealistic. Even if I’m wrong about October and November being busier than the last two months, Fantasy Springs will still be some degree of busy for a long time to come.

The next thing I want to discuss is weekends. Historically, Saturday and Sunday are the worst days of the week at Tokyo Disney Resort and by an incredibly wide margin. So bad that our past advice, in all caps, has been: DO NOT VISIT TOKYO DISNEY RESORT ON WEEKENDS!!!

There was a time when pretty much any random Saturday at Tokyo Disneyland felt like EPCOT or Magic Kingdom on New Year’s Eve. Weekend crowds truly made Walt Disney World or Disneyland feel dead by comparison. Very few days at the U.S. parks approached peak season weekend craziness at Tokyo Disney Resort, when the parks routinely hit capacity.

While historically true, this has now become a present-day misconception. I don’t want to say it’s wrong that weekends are worse than weekdays, as that’s not exactly the case. But it is inaccurate, at best, to have it be such an emphatic warning. There was a time when Saturdays and Sundays had significantly higher wait times and crowd levels than their adjacent weekdays. Thursday and Friday might be 6/10 days, and Saturday would be 10/10 with a half-dozen rides having triple-digit wait times and even measurable lines for popcorn carts.

That hasn’t been the case since Annual Passes were suspended, and this change is similarly under-discussed. Annual Passholders had an outsized impact on crowd dynamics at Tokyo Disney Resort due to the large number of local APs who worked regular jobs during the workweek and thus disproportionately descended upon TDR on weekends. Annual Pass sales are still suspended, so it should go without saying that this demo doesn’t have the same impact on crowds.

This isn’t to say locals and TDR diehards have no impact on crowd levels. They absolutely do! Weekends are still the best option for locals to visit, which is evident in Saturday still being the busiest day at Tokyo Disney Resort. But it’s by only a slight margin versus the night-and-day difference pre-COVID.

Between the lack of APs and other contributing factors like higher-priced tickets most Saturdays and Sundays (and Japanese consumers being more cost-conscious), weekends are not nearly the red flag avoid-at-all-costs days that they used to be.

In fact, we’ve found that Sundays can be a great day to visit and have started specifically targeting those. Not only are crowds almost always lower than Saturdays, but they’re often lower than Mondays, too. And purely anecdotal, but we’ve also found that the crowds start clearing out in the late afternoon, with Sunday night being one of the very best times for lower waits.

Now for some things that are not misconceptions. You’ve probably seen photos from the monorail showing massive lines waiting to enter the parks. Well, the bad news is that the already early-arriving crowd now arrives even earlier and camps out waiting to enter both parks, but especially Tokyo DisneySea.

The reason for this happening at Tokyo DisneySea is obviously Fantasy Springs. But this didn’t start within the last month and is also occurring at Tokyo Disneyland. In our view, this is also driven by the lack of Annual Passes, with the diehards who buy single-day tickets feeling more pressure to get their money’s worth–and thus arriving at the crack of dawn.

The good news is that you don’t need to totally forgo sleep on your vacation to Japan. Just because Japanese guests arrive at 5 a.m. (or whenever) doesn’t mean that you need to follow suit. You can safely arrive at 7 a.m. if you’re trying for standby passes to Fantasy Springs, and even later if you aren’t.

The other good news is that the parks typically open earlier than the published opening time of 9 a.m. The time varies from day to day and is driven by demand. This is actually the case at all Disney and Universal theme parks, and is a matter of crowd control and safety. They don’t want congestion outside the gates to get too bad, so early openings happen as a ‘release valve’ on crowds. That’s also why the time is seemingly random. It could be 8:09 a.m. one day and 8:27 a.m. the next.

Before regular park opening, there’s also Happy 15 Entry for guests of Hotel MiraCosta and Fantasy Springs Hotel, which provides guests of these two on-site hotels (and now only these two on-site hotels) 15 minutes of early access to Tokyo DisneySea. It may seem like a minor thing, but it’s a huge advantage–especially given lines to enter the park.

All of this is why we borrow a phrase from my military-man father when it comes to rope dropping TDR: “If you’re on-time for park opening at Tokyo Disney Resort, you’re late.”

Accordingly, you need to arrive much earlier than the published opening time in order to make it through security and the turnstiles, and then to make your ride reservations the second you scan into the park.

When it comes to Fantasy Springs, there’s a reason everyone stops in their tracks in Aquasphere Plaza to book the free Standby Pass/Priority Pass or buy Premier Access–it is imperative that you do this before heading to your first attraction of the day. Don’t make the mistake of trying to ‘kill two birds with one stone’ by racing to a ride and booking while in line. That’s an okay approach for Tokyo Disneyland, but not Fantasy Springs.

For those of you who are planning a visit to Tokyo Disney Resort several months to a year down the road, I’d highly recommend following the both the Fantasy Springs and Disney Colors accounts to see how these times change. While it’s true that Fantasy Springs still has the ‘new port-of-call smell’ right now and that this will die down, don’t overestimate the extent to which that’ll happen.

Otherwise, what you’ve heard about the infamous crowds at Tokyo Disney Resort is more or less true. You will find several headliner attractions in each park that have wait times over an hour on a regular basis, with triple-digit wait times being par for the course with the most popular attractions.

The perception of crowds is arguably exacerbated by the aforementioned rope drop lines. If you arrive “on time” for park opening, you’ll likely be experiencing both the longest wait times (they peak for most headliners within the first two official hours of the morning) and the worst congestion (because everyone is still entering and the parks haven’t yet absorbed everyone). That makes for a negative first impression and can start the day off on a sour note.

It also doesn’t help that free FastPass is gone, replaced by (also free) Priority Pass and (paid) Premier Access. As a result of this, you typically won’t be able to skip as many lines per day without paying extra, which further adds to the perception of worse crowds since so many attractions with high wait times have become more difficult (or costly) to “beat.”

Personally, I still feel like this is a bit overblown. It’s true that the “feels like” crowds at Tokyo Disney Resort on average or above days can make Walt Disney World feel “dead” by comparison. However, it’s not nearly as bad when you actually analyze average, park-wide wait times across the entire operating day (meaning not just headliners when you first enter the park).

Arriving well before park opening will help you headstart on other guests. Priority Pass, which is still free, can be invaluable–especially at Tokyo Disneyland. There are also plenty of secondary attractions that help round out the day and seldom have wait times longer than 30 minutes.

Nevertheless, it seems that American Disney fans struggle with Tokyo Disney Resort crowds in two regards. The first is not being prepared, showing up late (officially on-time), and running into lines everywhere they look–even for waffles or popcorn. The second is being prepared and expecting similar outcomes to Walt Disney World or Disneyland, and getting frustrated that many other guests are also well-prepared. Consequently, you’ll find that the early rising, staying late, or other savvy strategies that are fruitful at the U.S. parks don’t work nearly as well in Japan. All of this can be incredibly discouraging.

TDR fans are the most zealous Disney fans on the planet (making Disneyland diehards look tame by comparison), and the Japanese seemingly have a far greater tolerance for waiting in lines than Americans. Other compounding factors are that pent-up demand is still a thing in Japan, Fantasy Springs is fantastic, and staffing shortages/closures/reduced capacity are still causing problems for Tokyo Disney Resort. And the thing is, once crowds do start “dying down” a bit, OLC still has plenty of levers they can pull to increase attendance again–from bringing back multi-day tickets and Annual Passes to restoring missing entertainment and making seasonal celebrations actually good again. So don’t expect crowds to get better any time soon.

Planning a trip to Tokyo Disney Resort? For comprehensive advice, the best place to start is our Tokyo Disneyland & DisneySea Trip Planning Guide! For more specifics, our TDR Hotel Rankings & Reviews page covers accommodations. Our Restaurant Reviews detail where to dine & snack. To save money on tickets or determine which type to buy, read our Tips for Saving Money post. Our What to Pack for Disney post takes a unique look at clever items to take. Venturing elsewhere in Japan? Consult our Ultimate Guide to Kyoto, Japan and City Guide to Tokyo, Japan.

YOUR THOUGHTS

What are your thoughts on crowds at Tokyo Disney Resort? Have you experienced triple-digit wait times for most headliners and lengthy lines even for popcorn or waffles? If you’ve been to Tokyo Disneyland or Tokyo DisneySea, what did you think were the best or worst times to visit? Thinking about visiting at any particular times of year? Other thoughts on avoiding crowds at Tokyo Disneyland? Share your thoughts or questions in the comments below!

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26 Comments

  1. Thanks for your valuable info as always! I wonder if you’re planning on publishing any in depth Info on the booking process for TDR packages – whew- it feels like a thing!!!

  2. WELL, if after 5 yrs- Tokyo Disney gets Fantasy Springs and we get (WDW) a breezeway & a karaoke stage WHATTA YA EXPECT. WDW !! WAKE UP

  3. Tokyo Disneyland/DisneySea is the best Disney park of all time..
    Easily beats Florida and matches up and beats Anaheim..
    Also cheapest of all Disneylands..
    And you’re in Tokyo..

  4. Another factor that you can’t really plan for, but can work in your favor is rain. Last month, my very first visit to TDS was a complete washout. We braved the elements with ponchos and umbrellas, and we were rewarded for our efforts with low wait times and tons of availability for Fantasy Springs standby passes. It wasn’t an ideal day for wandering and enjoying the atmosphere of the park, so we saved that for a sunnier day. The Japanese guests seemed well-prepared and completely unbothered by the rain, so I was surprised the weather kept crowds down, but compared to our second day in TDS, two days after the washout, it certainly seemed to.

    1. “The Japanese guests seemed well-prepared and completely unbothered by the rain, so I was surprised the weather kept crowds down, but compared to our second day in TDS, two days after the washout, it certainly seemed to.”

      You’re absolutely right about rain making a huge difference in crowds.

      The difference between what you observed (guests being unbothered by and prepared for rain) and crowd levels is simply what you did not observe: locals seeing the weather forecast and staying home. Unlike Walt Disney World, which is mostly driven by tourists (who aren’t going to stay in their hotel when it rains since they’re already there), the majority of guests at TDR are locals.

      With tickets not selling out these days, people can wait until the last minute to purchase them–or not do so after seeing the weather. Rain has about the same impact on TDR crowds as it does on DLR crowds as a result.

  5. I have to say we almost became victims of the American influencer hysteria about Fantasy Springs before deciding that a 7 a.m. arrival (on a Friday) was fine. And that an 8:15 a.m.arrival (on a Wednesday) was fine too. Got in both days. Our issues had to do with the insane way they are running the area and not letting people ride, even when attractions have waits under 10 minutes. … I’ll also say that my record continues of never waiting an hour to ride anything at TDR parks in multiple visits over multiple decades now. Yes, my 40-minute tops record is gone. And so is the 50.minute barrier (waited almost 55 minutes for … TSMM, which we had never done there, in the 8 pm hour). But I’m either the luckiest spirit alive or maybe others are not good planners and set themselves up for disaster. I still haven’t done a Saturday or Sunday in the parks. Indeed, this was my first Friday, and we did so much (including three FS rides, a meal in FS and Believe at night). No complaints.

    Also, did USJ for first time ever. Two days. A Sunday and a Thursday. Sunday was much less crowded. And when it poured out starting at 650, park cleared out (they are selling APs and multi day tickets here). We literally spent the 9-10 p.m. hour going on Mario Kart over and over and over.

    Yes, I do think TDR will likely be busier later in the year. But my gut says you’re wrong about FS being crazy next year and maybe for the next five. I think that only will be the case if they continue to make it a nightmare to enter. Even bringing back APs won’t cause all four rides to constantly have triple digit waits. BTW, I’m still not sure I have ever witnessed a single 100-minute wait at TDR, although I probably have. But didn’t pay attention because I wasn’t waiting in it. Planning. It matters.

  6. I can almost guarantee that your assumption of October and November being way busier will be accurate. Our party of 4 is going in November and we wanted to book a vacation package at the MiraCosta. Leading up to the opening of the booking window, I “practiced” booking a VP many times, often with plenty of availability days after the booking window opened. However, for November, almost everything was sold out within 24 hours, except for Hotel Disneyland. Luckily, my training paid off and we booked the exact room we wanted despite the hours long battle with the reservation website!

    1. No because the Japanese big holiday weeks dont include thanksgiving. The times to look out for are generally it gets busier clsoer to Chrsitmas you are and New Year so late November could be good assuming flights are ok. The busiest times are generally then. Golden week-( late April or early May almost a week of public holiday but mid to late May quieter) Japanese school holidays , weekends and the weekend of or on public holidays but notnecessarily the mid week after them. Tom’s got a post on them here https://www.disneytouristblog.com/tokyo-disneyland-crowds-tips/

      Personally I found there was another factor. Rain can reduce attendance by mad ammounts. I saw a drop of about 50% or more on the day it rained when I was there May last year as people coming from Tokyo fear not making the train back there or cancelations due to weather. If your happy with rain a rainy day can be great at Tokyo Disney-although depending on severity unfortunately parades maybe canceled/cut back.

  7. My experience at TDR is extremely limited compared to yours- I was there last week for three days. It was our first time in Japan, and we went to Tokyo Disney at the end of our three week trip. My family has been to Disneyland and WDW many times, and we’ve never seen such low crowd levels. Disneysea was a ghost town because everyone was in Fantasy Springs.
    We bought the vacation package so we could guarantee entry to the new land. It was pricey, but in the end it was worth it. We really enjoyed the beverage tickets, and we went on the Frozen ride a dozen times! That wrist band was the best!
    We stayed at Toy Story Hotel and really liked it. The breakfast buffet at Lotso’s was great for my family.

  8. Interesting analysis, thanks! We visited in early June 2023 – I did not realize that was such a good season to visit. Crowds did not seem at all bad to us. They certainly were not light, but nothing felt excessive. ToT and Soarin’ were the only 2 rides I recall waiting a fairly long time for (and we skipped the Baymax ride due to lines). One of my favorite Disney experiences ever was also lining up before park opening at TDS. Everyone picked a security line, formed orderly rows, and then sat on the ground. When park opening came, everyone stood up and moved forward in an orderly fashion in their lines – it was so much more relaxed than I can recall from any US park rope drop.

    1. And this is the difference between Tokyo crowds and US crowds. Civility and respect for others.

  9. Hello! I am trying to decide between a 2 day Fantasy Springs vacation package for November for either the MiraCosta or a package for Toy Story Hotel. In your opinion is the MiraCosta worth the extra $ solely for the Happy15 benefit, if it already includes the Fantasy Springs pass. (This reservation is for the cheapest MiraCosta rooms w/no view and I’ve stayed at MiraCosta before in a much better room). Thank you!

    1. I absolutely love MiraCosta but was pleasantly surprised by Toy Story Hotel (reviewing coming somewhat soon-ish).

      The upside of MiraCosta and Happy15 is in bypassing the long line to enter the park and having limited lines at Soaring, JTTCOE, ToT, etc–not Fantasy Springs. Whether that’s “worth it” is probably a personal call.

      It would’ve been worth it to us…but I could never find any availability for MiraCosta (except the pricey suites–which were not worth it to us), so we settled for Toy Story Hotel.

    2. Thank you for your reply (and just this website in general, which is awesome!) I’m def leaning towards MiraCosta, but the earliest breakfast time available was 7:50am and yeah, I could skip breakfast, but FREE food (or at least food, that I have prepaid for) so I’m worried that by the time we’re done eating, it will be so close to opening time that it negates the Happy15.

  10. I am making a bucket list trip to Japan during sakura season next year and don’t know what to make of this “it’s bad but also not as bad as people say but also in some ways worse” post (which I still very much appreciate!). I also think I have a higher tolerance for crowds than the average reader of this blog based on comments.

    How worried should I be, Tom? I live in New York City, and was at Walt Disney World in February 2020, which I found to be busy but at no point did I think the crowds were overwhelming (or unreasonable considering I was at some of the busiest theme parks on the planet). I have already made peace with the fact that I’m going during a busier time of year, as shockingly it seems other people also find cherry blossoms pretty 🙂

    1. Well, another thing I forgot to mention here is that jet lag works in your favor as an American–especially if you’re doing TDR first. You’ll likely be up at 5 am even if that’s not your intent, so getting to the parks for pre-official opening shouldn’t be too tough.

      February 2020 was pretty bonkers at Walt Disney World. I didn’t see anything recently at TDR that bad. Possibly higher wait times for the headliners and lines in “unexpected” spots like restaurants, but nothing awful.

      Waiting to get through security and into the park is probably the worst you’ll experience. You’ll be fine.

    2. Phew! I actually adjusted to the time change shockingly well when I went to Thailand last year, so not sure I’ll be up at 5 am without an alarm, but good to know that the worst crowds will be getting into the park.

  11. I do think the yen’s notable weakness against the dollar is also a factor in this surge of American interest in Tokyo DisneySea, and tourism interest in Japan more generally. Flights to Japan are expensive, yes, but then Americans save a lot of $$ once they are on the ground, greatly opening up the location to (upper?) middle-class vacationers that might not have considered such a trip otherwise. You can see the NYTimes’s recent story “Japan Wanted Higher Inflation. It’s Here, and It Hurts” and the travel section’s “strong-dollar-where-to-go” article for more about this subject.

    1. You’re 100% correct! I actually meant to include that (and have in other articles about TDR) but got distracted.

      In any case, the weak yen is having a huge impact on both interest in TDR and its product offerings. The new vacation packages are essentially aimed at affluent foreign travelers, and have been hugely popular…but I’m skeptical they’d even be sustainable in “normal times” with a disproportionately Japanese audience.

      I’ll have to check out those articles in NYT, so thanks for the heads up! I’m guessing I already know what they say, as we saw the many pitfalls of the strong dollar during our recent time in Japan.

    2. What are some of the pitfalls of the strong dollar, Tom? At a recent exchange rate, I saw that three-course meal at Magellans was ~$40USD inclusive of tax/tip. That certainly seems like an upside! 🙂

    3. The crowd it draws is the biggest one.

      This is not noticeable at TDR because it’s family-friendly, but we saw way more obnoxious tourists in places where they wouldn’t have been in the past. If we saw them, I can’t imagine where else they were–as we didn’t do any truly fancy meals this time because we know better than to do so with a baby.

    4. Ah, that makes complete sense. I have seen several news articles about unruly tourists in Japan. I’m sure 95-99% are fine, but as numbers increase the number in the remaining 1-5% increases as well.

  12. Thanks in large part to you being so adamant and effusive in your praise for them, I’ve (finally) convinced my wife that TDR needs to be on our short-to-mid term trip calendar. Chances are, we’ll only make it over there once in the next several years, so my question is this:

    If you, Sarah and Megatron were only able to go one week in the next 24 months, when would you go, all factors considered? (We have three smallish humans in our traveling party but I assume the number of kids doesn’t make any difference when it comes to what time of year we should go)

    I appreciate you, Tom!

    1. I assume it’s a trip to Japan and not just Tokyo Disney Resort?

      If so, fall colors and sakura seasons are the obvious choices. They are the most popular times of year to visit, but for good reason. Our favorite is fall colors, with early to mid-November being a sweet spot before crowds arrive in full force. More on all of that here in our post about when to visit Kyoto: https://www.travelcaffeine.com/when-visit-kyoto-japan-best-worst-times/

    2. Thank you so much!

      Yes, we plan to see as much of Japan as possible in a week or so, but at least one day will be dedicated to a trip out to Iwo Jima. I’m a retired Marine, so I definitely need to see that. Beyond that, we don’t have a ton of “must see” things on our list, so I appreciate the link to your travelcaffeine site. That’s super helpful.

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