Disney Concerned About Death in Haunted Mansion, A Ride About Death

Haunted Mansion has reopened after a 16-month absence at Disneyland, and features a few enhanced scenes and modernized Audio Animatronics. This follows the removal of the seasonal Haunted Mansion Holiday overlay and massive year-long project to expand the exterior grounds and queue, and add Madame Leota’s Somewhere Beyond gift shop.

This post actually doesn’t focus much on the substance of the enhancements themselves. We’ll focus on those separately once I have a chance to capture more photos and video, but in a nutshell, they turned out nicely. The new bride looks nice, with both the Audio Animatronics figure and its presentation fitting better in the Haunted Mansion. Given the success of this chance, I’d assume it’ll make its way to Walt Disney World at some point…in the next decade or so.

The tech in previous bride (and current bride at Magic Kingdom) had not aged well, and was an example of Imagineering getting ahead of itself utilizing tech that hadn’t matured quite enough. Equally as significant, the previous bride was sort of hokey and tonally inconsistent with the rest of the Haunted Mansion. The new one leaves more to the imagination, offering a scene that is more unsettling–or haunting, if you will–as a result. It is, without question, an upgrade. The artistic merits of other changes made as part of the project are more up for debate, but again, that’s not the point of this.

Instead, I want to focus on how Disney unveiled the Haunted Mansion enhancement, via an exclusive by journalist Todd Martens in the Los Angeles Times. It’s an excellent piece featuring an interview with a creative director from Walt Disney Imagineering, and I’d encourage you to read it.

There are a few specific lines in the piece that bugged me, and are worthy of further discussion because they could speak to the company’s perspective on other projects, like those that are part of the massive upcoming development cycles at Disneyland and Walt Disney World.

Let’s start with this on the controversial AI art spotted in the gift shop:

[A]n online controversy erupted earlier this winter when it was discovered that the new shop adjacent to the ride contained a piece of art that was created by artificial intelligence. The presence of AI art felt particularly egregious knowing the value Imagineering places on authentic, hand-crafted work.

The moment clearly weighed on Irvine. “How they can find one thing out of all this cool stuff,” Irvine says of the fan outcry, trailing off as she stood in the shop full of artfully created oddities and references to tarot and mysticism. She stresses that the AI art was a temporary placeholder, noting there are many objects coming to the shop — more paintings and tapestries among them — that are in the process of being fireproofed before final install.

“They felt like it would be appropriate for a short time until they could put something else in,” Irvine says of the ill-fated art. “They never intended to do anything bad, and it is gone now. We’re going to bring something back in that is hand-painted, like all of these other pieces are.”

I was not part of this online outcry, but I’ve seen plenty of similar sentiment about AI replacing human artists. It’s a hot-button issue, for sure, and Disney was likely caught up in that and might’ve received disproportionate attention as a result.

But to the best of my knowledge, people aren’t upset about AI artwork on the basis of the duration it’ll be used. If Disney issued a press release that said, “we’re opening the shop with temporary AI art, but don’t worry, the permanent stuff will be painted by people,” it’s not like fans would’ve said, “oh okay, AI art is okay so long as its duration of use does not exceed 23 days.” That’s not how it works.

I do appreciate Imagineering’s willingness to address this head-on, but a much more satisfying response would’ve been:

“In a rush to complete a project on a tight timeline, oversights were made in the procurement process and we regrettably did not properly vet a supplier of art that turned out to be, unbeknownst to us, AI-generated. We have taken the necessary action and have updated our internal policies to ensure this doesn’t happen again, even on a temporary basis. The Walt Disney Company has a rich creative legacy, and storytelling is always of utmost importance to us.”

Something like that. Not blaming fans for having the temerity to notice and point out a detail in a shop that’s meant to have its details noticed and pointed out.

Here’s another section that raised an eyebrow or two from me:

“The bride that used to be in there was an axe murderer, and in this day and age we have to be really careful about the sensitivities of people,” Irvine says. “We were celebrating someone chopping off her husband’s heads, and it was a weird story. I know the fans — some will like it and some will say, ‘Oh, you changed something again.’ That’s our job. That’s what we’re here for.”

There’s so much to unpack in this one paragraph.

First of all, depiction is not endorsement. I honestly cannot even believe this needs to be said, and feel like I’m talking down to you, just by writing this. But never in a million years would I have guessed this would’ve been something an actual creative would’ve said.

If depiction of a murderer in an attraction is celebrating them, Disney has some serious issues with every single Star Wars and Marvel attraction. Never mind the upcoming Villains Land in Magic Kingdom! And can you believe Imagineering just created a version of “it’s a small world” that celebrates murderers?! This is so obviously nonsense that no further discussion is needed.

Second, I would argue that “in this day and age” people are more sensitive to exactly the type of sentiment described here than they are to the depiction of a murderer. It’s not as if there are a bunch of people out there on one side of the aisle saying “murderers are bad” and then another large contingent is saying “well hold on, wait a minute, maybe murderers have their merits.” There is no Big Murderers lobby advancing the special interest and gaining ground.

What’s much more likely is that people see sentiment like the above and the quote is what offends their sensibilities. The thought process showcased here is more polarizing than the substance of the thing itself.

What I mean by that is that now this is a debate being had among fans, not about murderers in Haunted Mansion, but about Imagineering entertaining this as a serious issue in the first place instead of dismissing it out of hand. There are almost certainly more complaints–or negative discourse–about this than the old bride ever generated.

This is patently obvious when it comes to the axe murderer, and I wouldn’t expect much fan disagreement. More delicate of a subject is the hanging corpse in the Stretching Room. Even though this could be traumatic for some guests, I’d argue it also applies there.

If people find death disturbing, which is completely understandable, perhaps an attraction about death is not for them. Making changes to anything that could conceivably offend or disturb anyone is a dangerous road to go down–and an endless one.

I don’t doubt that Imagineering consulted with some corporate committee on Haunted Mansion, and the committee told them “murderers are bad.” I, too, am anti-murder. But this type of committee exists to find problems, so they will continue to find problems to continue existing. The issue with that is, eventually you get these vaguely Kafkaesque recommendations that, if taken to their logical conclusions, would result in the most bland output imaginable. It’s almost the antithesis of the creative process.

Finally, this is one of two points in the surprisingly defensive interview that come across as antagonistic towards fans. This has become a bit of a trend in the last few years, which seemingly began under the stewardship of former CEO Bob Chapek, who was the biggest culprit and made quips about outrage if Disney moved a churro cart 10 feet and other such nonsense (see Bob Chapek Did Not “Get” Disney).

Let me just start here by acknowledging that I cannot fathom how difficult being a creative would be in this day and age. Everything you do would be picked apart endlessly online by purported fans, many of whom wouldn’t know the first thing about the process that brought the project to fruition or the push and pull from various stakeholders.

Between an impossible to satisfy audience offering constant criticism and mandates from above, being an Imagineer probably isn’t as fun as fans believe. I barely know anything, and I’ve seen some of this play out; Imagineers who have navigated challenging corporate waters to work miracles have been blamed by fans for supposed failures. I would not want their jobs…which is a good thing, as I don’t have the requisite talent or creativity!

At the same time, fans are a large part of what gives the work meaning. Can there be art without art criticism? It is people and the response it provokes that elevates any work or medium as a whole. I would think that any artist would want their creations to resonate with people on a deeply emotional level–that’s the whole goal in the first place, isn’t it?

There’s a reason for the outpouring of love and grief for David Lynch, despite his body of work having very mixed reviews over the decades. It’s similar to the reason Chuck Lorre’s much more commercially-successful shows do not really garner much in the way of commentary or criticism. The most thought-provoking art has a way of being polarizing, and although I’m sure artists would rather have unambiguously positive reviews, critical ones still beat indifference.

I would also think this would be doubly true for Imagineers, as the question of whether theme parks are art is still fiercely debated (even though the answer is obviously yes), and passionate discourse helps reinforce that legitimacy. If theme parks were merely vapid consumerism, one of the LA Times’ best culture columnists wouldn’t be covering them in the first place.

Everyone knows that Disney fans are a rabid bunch, but you’ve gotta take the bad with the good…or at least ignore us entirely. “Disney Adult” is a pejorative term for good reason, but corporate leaders lashing out at fans is also counterproductive. (Say what you will about Bob Iger, but he gets this.)

Ultimately, this is not an article I enjoyed writing. I don’t like to criticize creatives, and endeavor to contextualize what could’ve gone wrong in the process when critiquing the end result (e.g. CommuniCore Hall). Even in this case, I took a couple of days to ruminate on it before offering a knee-jerk reaction.

The question for me is whether the thought process here is emblematic of Imagineering as a whole, or if this is just one ill-advised interview. There’s a huge slate of construction projects and ride reimaginings on the horizon, including ones that could be negatively impacted by this line of reasoning. If this is going to be the creative ethos for Villains Land at Magic Kingdom, that’s troubling!

With that said, it’s also worth pointing out that while the interview wasn’t flattering, the enhancements to Haunted Mansion turned out remarkably well (everything except the awful gift shop, but that was largely out of Imagineering’s hands). When acknowledging the practical realities with which they had to deal, the extended queue gets the job done.

Meanwhile, the new bride is an unequivocal improvement over its immediate predecessor, and is consistent with a modernization of the original bride (Tokyo version pictured above). With that said, a good outcome can be achieved for the wrong reasons. Which is to say that the new bride is a positive, but the proffered justification for the change is not.

That is precisely what’s the most perplexing part of this all–these Haunted Mansion changes did not need explanation. If allowed to speak for themselves, they do well on the merits. It’s the justification, which normally would be reserved for a project that needed defending, that did the damage. Perhaps the lesson to be learned here is that sometimes superfluous storytelling is a liability rather than an asset.

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Your Thoughts

Thoughts on the rationales Imagineering had to offer about the Haunted Mansion changes? Any concerns that Imagineering has lost the plot, or are you willing to give the benefit of the doubt that this was just one interview that went poorly? Or do you disagree with us and agree with what was said to the LA Times? Any questions? Hearing your feedback—even when you disagree with us—is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

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  1. Based on the title, I mistakenly thought the article would be about Disney’s plan for what to do when guests die inside the Haunted Mansion.

  2. I wonder, “What would Walt do?” When he built Disneyland he intended it to be a safe and family oriented place that parents could have fun in with their children.

  3. It’s always possible that the hanging man being removed is being mentioned in order to address the subject without having to actually do anything about it. Kind of a “See! We thoughtfully considered the SINLGE person’s complaint about this- it’s in print even!!” It would be a shame to remove him, seeing as how his body is the punch line to the entire greeting setup, and has managed to survive every decade’s ridiculous idea of triggering so far. They’ll have to replace the narration if they choose this terrible edit, which would compound the loss exponentially.

  4. The opposite of an endorsement, I always thought Constance was supposed to be one of the “villains” of the Haunted Mansion, as much as it could have a villain. All the other ghosts in the mansion are partying in the ballroom or graveyard, but she’s stuck by herself in the attic because no one wants to hang out with an axe murderer! In all seriousness though, I agree with the hope that this was one awkward interview, and not the trend moving forward.

  5. I’ve gone through the haunted mansion a lot over the years and I don’t remember a hanging corpse in the stretching room. I will now need to look for this the next time I go through this attraction. If I’ve seen it, the hanging obviously didn’t stick in my memory. I am also against murder. Great line Tom.

    1. When you’re in the stretching room, and the Ghost Host says “of course, there’s always MY WAY,” and the lights go out…look up. It’s the climax of the entire scene; his escape from this windowless doorless room was to kill himself. This is not subtle.

  6. I’m an attempted suicide survivor but the hanging in the stretching room scene doesn’t bother me. Maybe because I never chose hanging as my preferred method. I guess I can see why some people would be offended by it, but I don’t think Disney should rush to remove it. I also guess I may have thought the dead person ended up swinging for some other reason than self-inflicted harm, like maybe someone murdered him and wanted to make it look like suicide.

    Riding the Disney World version of Haunted Mansion for years now, I’m pretty sure I remember a time before the Bride became a black widow & instead was some innocent bride pining away for her lost groom. I agree that Disney overreacts in their attempt to be politically correct, but I kinda liked that other concept of her being pure instead. By the way, I think trying to be politically correct is like walking on eggshells with the whole entire world & people should just forget it.

    1. It’s definitely self-inflicted. That’s the body of the Ghost Host providing the narration. “This chamber has no windows and no doors, which offers you this chilling challenge: to find a way out. Of course, there’s always my way…” leading to the reveal that he had to kill himself in order to escape the stretching room.

  7. The first bride was the scariest. She was the Bride of Captain Blood (Bluebeard) who had been murdered by him after she discovered the secret of his previous murdered wives in the attic. She was a black and creepy looking in her wedding dress with red shining eyes and a beating heart. Outside the exit (at WDW anyway) was a crypt with the names of his previous brides. She was really horrifying and the story was better than the silly murderous bride of latter days. Yuk.

  8. There are a lot of gothic personality’s out there that embrace the whole haunted vibe. Disney, do not blow it for everyone by changing the haunted mansion. Sometimes people “overthink” things and ruin it.

  9. It’s supposed to be HAUNTED! How can you have ghosts without DEATH?!? Seriously, what is wrong with them?
    In addition to your excellent point about deaths in Star Wars and MCU, what about the recent additions of Deadpool and Wolverine in DCA?!
    I get a kick outta them in movies, but it’s hardly appropriate for a family park…the Haunted Mansion is quaint compared to the huge body count of Deadpool’s gleeful sprees and Wolverine’s lethal melees. What kind of insulting hypocrisy is Disney playing at over there? I’m incredibly insensed with the story change, especially considering the reasoning behind it.
    Death is part of life… and it’s been SOP for Disney movies frome the start! Are they going to scrub all the deaths in their cartoons next? Snow White’s mother just ran away or the hunter was supposed to bring back a drawing of a heart, Mufasa doesn’t really die–he’s sleeping, Bambi’s mom is just ‘lost in the woods’, Nemo isn’t the last remaining offspring… I mean really, where does it end?
    Thanks Tom for the well-written item about it, and the potential impact on their proposed Villain’s Land.

  10. Thank you for writing this article. As someone who doesn’t have time to read many articles about Disney, I had no idea this happened. I believe it was not an easy article to write. So, I appreciate you writing it so people like myself are aware of these types of issues going on at Disney.

  11. I think the Haunted Mansion is one of the greatest pop culture creations of the last century. I’m reserving judgment on the bride til I see her in person. Based on photos, her look feels like it would be much more at home in the *much more* serious Phantom Manor. Axing the axe is silly and seems to be solving a problem that isn’t a problem. Axe murdering is such an absurd rarity, I have a hard time thinking anyone is overly troubled it…

    The stretching room on the other hand does not climax in an absurd rarity but with something that is very real for too many people. I’m just stumped by it and I don’t want anyone at Disney to touch it until they’re certain they’ve found quality storytelling to go along with (what I hope is) quality concern for the guests. (If I were the blogging type, I would have written a “Disney Has a Storytelling Problem” post by now but that’s neither here nor there.) That moment currently serves the *plot* but I’d be lying if I said it doesn’t snap me out of the *story* these days.

  12. “It’s not as if there are a bunch of people out there on one side of the aisle saying “murderers are bad” and then another large contingent is saying “well hold on, wait a minute, maybe murderers have their merits.” There is no Big Murderers lobby advancing the special interest and gaining ground.”

    Wish I could say that’s true, but if the axe murderer animatronic was Luigi Mangione, he’d have quite an active fanbase apparently.

  13. So the storyline has been changed from a murderess Bride to a series of deserting husbands who have just disappeared. Went out for a newspaper and never came back. Won’t this offend anyone whose husband abandoned them?

    A name for a bride who murders is series of husbands is ‘Black Widow’. Marvel fans are upset!!
    A term for someone being abandoned is ‘ghosted’. Mansion fans are upset! Oh Disney, in trying to please everyone you’re not pleasing anyone.

    1. True, and this even seems like they’ve copped-out in advance of any major complaints. I follow numerous theme park blogs/vlogs, etc and I haven’t seen any large protests or complaints from fans (or anyone really) about the bride being a black widow…I don’t know who they’re (idiotically) trying to appease but it sure isn’t Mansion fans. As Tom said, this is likely to create blow-back for it’s ridiculous reasoning, and rightly so.

  14. If the new bride looks like the one in your Tokyo Disneyland picture, I’m all in. She looks delightfully spooky and fits in well with the rest of the mansion occupants. What is disappointing and concerning is the seemingly ongoing and ever increasing hunt for things that are, to use Bob Iger’s word, “problematic”, and to eliminate them in an effort to placate a minority of easily offended people. It’s hard if not impossible to have a story, theme park, workplace, neighborhood, or world without some “problematic”.

  15. Wow, this type of attitude why even bother doing Villians land then I wonder. What that going to look like? Snow Whites step mother is trying murder her for vanity issues, that can really do some things to people’s sensitivity. Scar killed his brother, Captain Hook is trying to have war with a bunch of boys. I mean I lost my father when I was young, maybe almost all of Disney’s films should be changed, because having to watch characters loose their parents offends my sensitivity. This type of thing IMO is getting ridiculous. However when you pay a group of people, who’s job it is to be offended by their own shadow, this is undoubtedly the result you are going to get.

    1. Exactly! If I don’t like something, or don’t “get it”, I just figure it’s just not for me.

  16. Wonderful and thoughtful article. I agree with everything.
    However my problem with the new Bride is a problem that has been going on for many years and unfortunately a sign of the future. That is image projection. There are to many new rides (Mickey RR) and refurbs that are replacing audio animatronics in favor of motion projectors as they are cheaper. I dont mind projections. So long as they are used to “plus” an attraction and not take away from them. Disney is supposed to be unique and above all others in their inventions. No longer. Digital projectors are available to everyone and used by everyone, including every house on Halloween. I expect more from a storied company..

    1. Absolutely, they used to be the “gold standard” when it came to theme park technology, they pioneered it, now they’re just not trying anymore. I haven’t seen the new bride yet, so I can’t judge that, but with some of the other recent park updates, it’s just a short-sighted cash-grab, like they’re running a fly-by-night carnival.

  17. The fact that you had to type the sentence “I, too, am anti-murder” says so much.

    Full disclosure: I work in a creative field and am subject to lots of feedback as part of my day job. So this topic strikes that much closer to home, for me. And I am just so disappointed to see Disney Imagineering, an organization that is supposed to be a bastion of creativity and innovation, seemingly taking the path of least resistance when it comes to feedback by committee and shareholders/stakeholders/etc. Too many cooks results in just the blandest nothing of an output, as you noted.

    I also think it paints a sorry picture about the state of media literacy in this country. To think that depiction equals celebration displays such a lack of critical thinking skills. It’s upsetting, yes. I wish it were more surprising.

    1. Excellent point. I work in a creative field as well and we certainly have had those battles (with the powers that be) about the importance of challenging people’s perspectives and encouraging creative analysis, rather than lazy cop outs.
      No one remembers mediocre expression.

    2. Well written, Abigail. We’ve been living through the results of historical depictions being accused of celebrations also. It all goes back to the same problem. Silence the majority for the minority.

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