Our “Ghost Town” Experience at Disney Springs
Following reopening day of Disney Springs, we headed back to Walt Disney World for the first time in over two months. It was an odd mix of surreal, normal, apocalyptic, and comforting. You know, all the usual feelings you get when wandering an outdoor mall and dining at a restaurant.
We’re not going to rehash much here, so if you haven’t read our previous posts about the reopening of Disney Springs, here are photos and videos of what you can expect in terms of the temporary health screening & safety requirements. If you do opt to visit, this list covers the 40+ restaurant & retail locations currently open.
In this post, we’ll share photos from our visit to Disney Springs, thoughts on the health screening and safety protocols, our experience dining at the Boathouse, recommendations for visiting, and some commentary about pent-up demand (or lack thereof).
One of the big discussion points thus far has been pent-up demand. We’ve consistently held that this is being over-estimated for Walt Disney World’s theme parks, and that organic demand will likely be below the ~25% cap set by Disney–at least after the first few days.
We were hesitant to say the same about Disney Springs. While it obviously doesn’t have the same appeal or drawing power as the parks, it also has some things going for it. For one, Disney Springs does not charge admission. It also is easier to visit in small doses, making the masks and other requirements more palatable.
In other words, Disney Springs is more like an outdoor mall, restaurant, public park, or beach. In various places around the United States, all of those venues have seen serious crowds upon reopening. We were worried about the same at Disney Springs, which is why our intent was to avoid the opening day and the holiday weekend.
However, the crowds never materialized. This was clear from the get-go, as photos and videos we saw of opening day showed mostly bloggers, vloggers, and diehard hot dog hounds…but few others. Even with those three key demographics, it was hardly busy. Once those groups had their fill, attendance further dropped. It was a veritable ghost town over the weekend.
We’ve already seen some “unsurprised” reactions on social media, with people pointing to the lack of tourists with Walt Disney World closed right now. While that obviously cut into the potential audience pretty significantly, I think vacation-goers underestimate the local appeal of Disney Springs.
Quite simply, Disney Springs is our closest mall. This is true for a lot of people in Central Florida, and this reality is normally reflected in crowd levels. Disney Springs sees its biggest attendance spikes on weekends and evenings, when locals are off work. Same goes for the entire holiday season, when it’s significantly busier due to locals doing Christmas shopping and meals with family.
For many locals who don’t have Annual Passes, it’s a way to get a Disney fix. For others, it’s a great spot for dinner in a lovely setting. While Disney Springs is absolutely dependent on tourists, it’s also dependent upon locals. Those dozens of restaurants would not be viable without the local audience–tourists are disproportionately eating in the parks, not at Disney Springs.
In any case, attendance levels were well below expectations, and likely far too low to sustain the ~40 businesses currently open at Disney Springs. We wouldn’t be surprised to see some of these close again in the coming weeks, and other restaurants scuttle plans to reopen.
There are likely a variety of explanations for the low turnout among locals thus far at Disney Springs. Fears of a “crowdpocalypse” scenario, health & safety concerns, mandatory mask opposition, unemployment levels, economic uncertainty, high heat & humidity, lack of Disney-owned venues operating, and more things I’m probably overlooking. We could quibble over how much each variable is influencing attendance, but they’re all undoubtedly playing some part.
Regardless of the explanations for low attendance, this cannot be what Walt Disney World expected. It’ll be interesting to watch trends in the next week or so to see whether things pick up, level-off, or further decline.
If I were an executive with Disney, I’d be closely watching this, and surveying guests who visited Disney Springs plus everyone with a vacation booked for this summer or fall. I’d also be very hesitant to announce reopening dates for the parks without better insight into the “why?” of this, as well as what attendance projections look like for the parks.
I suspect Walt Disney World leadership anticipates operating the parks at a loss with limited capacity while things gear back up–you have to walk before you can run–but Disney Springs suggests that pent-up demand and visitor appetite for the Walt Disney World experience might be low.
That, or Disney Springs is totally different than the parks, and I’ve simply given this way too much thought. Not like I have anything better to do.
Let’s move along to our Disney Springs “report.”
We parked in Orange Garage (because we’re not barbarians) and headed to the temperature check. This took all of 3 seconds, and was the most people we encountered all day. It was no different than a temperature check coming through customs at an international airport; totally frictionless and doesn’t warrant further commentary.
Here’s a look at the text of the sandwich board warning.
These signs were all over the garage and by the escalators. None beyond that, though.
In general, the signage was fairly minimal.
That’s not reflected particularly well in this update (since I focused on spots that looked differently), but aside from maybe ~6 signs like this, ~12 sandwich board signs with the same message, directional arrows on some (but not all) bridges, and some stand/don’t stand queues outside stores, it was mostly business as usual.
There were definitely not as many of these signs as the “critter warnings” added four years ago along the shoreline of every single body of water at Walt Disney World.
In other words, I don’t think there was too much visual blight. Of course, there’s nothing to say more signs won’t be added.
The more obvious change was everyone wearing masks.
Guest compliance with this rule was scattered. The vast majority of people we saw were wearing masks, but some had them pulled down or off. In fairness, social distancing was incredibly easy to accomplish (with far more than a 6′ buffer) everywhere, which could explain why some felt comfortable removing their masks. The bigger test will be if/when things are crowded.
We’ve worn masks all day before out of courtesy when we’ve been sick in Japan, so this wasn’t totally novel to us.
However, I’m also not going to lie or sugarcoat things and say it was easy. Due to the lack of shade and surplus of concrete, Disney Springs is unpleasant on a “normal” 95º day. Masks exacerbate that.
Regardless, it was so nice to be back at Walt Disney World. Easing back into life out in public with such a low-crowd experience was perfect, too.
Selfishly, if masks are what thins out crowds a bit, I’ll happily wear them at Walt Disney World. Even in the summer heat and humidity. Locals definitely have an advantage in this regard, as a mask for 3-4 hours a couple of times per week is far easier than all-day, every-day for a weeklong vacation.
Ironically, the most surreal and apocalyptic element (and even those terms are a bit hyperbolic) of the visit was not the screening, signs, or masks–it was the absence of people.
I’m not saying I want heavy crowds (definitely not), but it was very odd for Disney Springs to be a ghost town during what should’ve been one of the busiest weekends of the year. It reminded me of the Twilight Zone episode, “Where Is Everybody?” except (spoiler alert) I don’t think this was to test my fitness to become an astronaut.
We made lunch reservations at the Boathouse, and requested a table outside.
This is again a matter of easing back into things and risk mitigation; even with the heat, we’re more comfortable in an open-air setting for now.
It turned out to be totally perfect, even on this hot day.
We had shade, a nice breeze, and a view of Saratoga Springs Resort across the water. Aside from our server wearing a mask and the restaurant being virtually empty, the meal had a near-complete sense of normalcy.
This being my first restaurant meal in well over two months, I decided to make up for lost time.
For those keeping score at home, I ate a half-dozen of the Boathouse’s iconic rolls.
For my entree, I ordered the 75-Day Aged Gibsons Grass-Fed Australian Boneless Ribeye.
I’m honestly not entirely sure if this is one of the greatest things I’ve ever eaten, or if it just tasted that way after I’ve been subsisting largely on a diet of cabbage and cauliflower at home. Either way, this was perfection!
Sarah had the Gulf of Mexico Red Grouper. It was also very, very good.
Going in, we had debated doing the Baked Alaska for dessert to restart our WDW dining with a bang. “Unfortunately,” I ate way too many rolls for that. Next time.
There will definitely be a next time, at least so long as crowds stay relatively low.
There’s obviously some risk in going out, but that’s not going away anytime soon. The benefits to our mood/outlook/happiness/etc. easily outweighed the minimal risk. That balance will change depending upon the circumstances, though.
If you’re thinking of doing a meal at Disney Springs, we’d highly recommend the Boathouse (hardly a surprise since it’s normally our #1 table service pick for Disney Springs).
However, the Boathouse also offers some unique advantages during this “temporary abnormal.” The restaurant is colossal, has a range of great outdoor seating options, and the menu has a ton of range for everyone in your party.
We’re debating whether to return to the Boathouse for our next meal, or go somewhere else.
STK is the leading candidate right now, for their best-value lunch in all of Walt Disney World (which we can confirm has returned–but is $1 more expensive) or the happy hour specials. STK also has outdoor seating, albeit not nearly as much.
In terms of other tips, our big one would be to visit later in the day. We arrived shortly after Disney Springs opened for the day to minimize our exposure to potential crowds, but it never got more crowded.
Next time, we’ll go for sunset and stay until closing. While it’s hot and humid out, this is the significantly better strategy (at least, until crowds pick up…if they do) due to the lack of shade at Disney Springs.
All things considered, this ghost town visit to Disney Springs went far better than expected. The lack of crowds is definitely interesting, and presents a lot of questions to ponder. Regardless of the reasons why–or the surreal feeling created by the absence of people–we’ll definitely be heading back to Disney Springs sooner rather than later. Even with the temporary rules, heat & humidity, it was a great experience that did wonders for our spirits and helped reestablish some semblance of normalcy. If you’re a local on the fence about doing Disney Springs, we’d absolutely recommend it.
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YOUR THOUGHTS
Have you visited Disney Springs since it reopened? Where did you dine? How was your experience? Would you recommend others visit, or hold off? Will you be visiting Disney Springs in the near future? If you’re a local and the answer is “no,” what’s your reasoning? We welcome a variety of viewpoints here, and will not delete anything on opinion alone. However, we will not tolerate insults, arguing, or politically-charged comments. Don’t ruin a 95% fine comment with an unnecessary cheap shot—that 5% will get it deleted. Additionally, please do not incessantly harp on the same point across multiple comments. Respectfully share your opinion and move along.
Somehow the insecurity and stress caused my coronavirus forces me to reconsider every travel decision I’m about to make. Plus it doesn’t help to cover selective places because of safety and not enjoy everything a place has to offer. Who’d want to take a ride wearing a mask under the shadow of a virus. Wonder who’d come to the parks in the current situation!
Same thing is going to happen at the parks. Maybe locals take advantage but tourism comes down to something else that’s kind of simple: why pay the money when I have zero idea what it will really be like and if it’s “okay”. Dropping $500 on Disney tickets is a non-starter if all it brings is stress for fear of the social distancing police. Not worth it. Even a little.
Glad you kids you enjoyed an afternoon at The Boathouse. I agree with all you posted, so no point in discussing. What bothers me is the comments from the no-maskers. They, frankly, sound like petulant children. Imagine that Disney actually is asking you to take the health of other Guests and CMs into consideration and wear a mask?!? The horrors. Your freedoms are at stake, right? Governmental overreach, right? It’s all about liberties! Sell me that one.
Look, I get you don’t want to wear one. They are damn near unbearable in Florida summer. No argument. So don’t go. Guess what? A pandemic summer at WDW would be hell to most non- Disney addicts. People with sense. I can’t do it. And I wouldn’t. Because the last place I want to be in the middle of a pandemic with cases and deaths rising in over half the nation would be a magical Disney theme park in the swamps. They aren’t going out of business even if they were closed until next year. Too big to fail and loads of loans. Plenty of time to go when this thing is either gone, there’s an inexpensive (this is the USA, so have to add that in discussions of healthcare) and effective treatment and or vaccine. You don’t want to wait? Well, that’s your problem. Move to Orlando and become a blogger and go for four hours a day when the weather is better.
But, please, stop whining about masks.
Or … Do what so many others will do: go, wear a mask to enter a park and then take it off. Complain about your Constitutional rights or that your son (or husband) is autistic and can’t wear it when he rides SDMT 21 times in a row, or carry a plastic churro around all day to appear to be eating. Disney Safety Theater is going to be as comprehensive as Disney Security Theater (I am sure we all saw the Orthodox family having a BBQ at DS literally hours after opening last week). Disney isn’t going to enforce anything. New head of Parks and Resorts And Assorted Crap They Have Combined Josh D’Amaro was photographed this weekend at DS in pics with Guests with no face coverings. He didn’t say a damn thing. That’s what will happen. Sure, you will be a lousy person for doing so. But if you don’t want to wear a mask, but must visit WDW right now, then you’re a really lousy person to start with. So go be you!
You clearly didn’t read Tom’s rules about posting. The only one whining is you.
Please stop pretending you are the moral arbiter determining who is a good person, and who is not: Please stop calling names.
That plastic churro idea is awesome. I promise you,when I return to the parks, I will not be wearing a mask while walking through the park. I have no problem wearing one while in line.
We’re Disney fanatics (visited every single Disney park in the world and WDW endless tunes), but unfortunately won’t be returning until the mask requirement is removed. We definitely fall into the category of we would fly there as soon as possible if wearing a mask isn’t required.
We had our annual 3 week trip planned for May June but rescheduled it til late September. Now I’m still waiting on what to do for then. When I was watching one of your videos about Disney Springs I started to cry. It seemed like what I love about Disney has died. I love talking to people, interacting, getting to know strangers and creating a moment that will stay with me forever. I also love smiling at everyone and letting my happiness flow out from me. I’m not against mask at all. Even with having asthma I will do what I need to make mask work for me. But then I realized how the smiles and joy of so many will be hidden. My heart broke. All I have booked right now is flight (swa so changing dates is no problem) and room only for 2 1/2 weeks. Me and son for first part and hubby joining us for 2nd. If I feel safe and not bothered by what limits the parks have we may just shorten this trip to 9 days with all of us. Then either upgrade this trip a little or put it toward May 2021.
PS Have you thought about what the fall will look like regarding Dining. If they limit capacity of restaurants what’s going to happen to the reservations booked over that percentage. What will it mean in trying to get reservations with free dining packages that have been booked. We usually do one part of our trip quick service and one part regular dining plan. We are considering only quick service plan and maybe 1 or 2 out of pocket.
I would love to hear DFBs thoughts on this.
I want to know if they have live music or any entertainment like that going on?
Dee said: “If you don’t wear a mask #STAY HOME!!!(”
Or, here’s a thought. If you’re afraid to go out in public, stay home. MY job is not to adjust MY ways to mitigate YOUR fears. Self-reliance. Self-preparedness.
And here’s a better idea. Put forth well-articulated thoughts and opinions, without making demands of others. This is a Disney-themed forum, not roller derby.
I feel like Disney did this on purpose. Look, no one is going? Why reooen. I’m sorry. I’m not going because of the masks. It is too hot in Florida. Not going to fight over it, just not going to go. Also, not enough open. Why bother with the limited openings and is there any entertainment? I haven’t heard anything about that. Reopen everything, make masks optional and I guarantee it will be better attended.
Wrong Jack. Observant Muslim and Orthodox Jewish men who work at my hospital do just fine with the PAPR provided by the hospital and have had zero trouble working or keeping their jobs and religious freedoms intact. The hospital is required to reasonably accommodate their religious observance of keeping beards and the proper equipment and technology exists, thus the PAPR.
A paper mask aka “face diaper” is less than totally useless with even stubble, let alone any kind of beard, but then again at my hospital we on the “inside” know that the face mask wearing is all for show and the “feels.” The vast majority of the civvies on the outside use them inappropriately and as some kind of fashion/woke political statement sort of like a political armband or maybe a good luck charm. Medically they are a placebo at best.
After playing the face diaper game on the unit for my 12s during my work week there is no way I’m putting on a hugely useless one out in public. It insults my intelligence and medical experience to play along with the clueless mask/distancing sham. Diamond Princess and Sweden proved the farce of the mask+distancing meme.
We have a 10 September trip booked at WDW. Would have dropped a little over $12,000 to Disney’s bottom line, but we will happily cancel in a heartbeat if the masking farce is required at that time.
Good luck Disney fans!
The mandatory mask policy means my family and I will continue to go elsewhere. It’s unfortunate because there are Disney Springs shops and restaurants I want to support but will not do so until the mask become recommended.
Actually, there isn’t any validated research data that shows wearing a cloth mask prevents the transmission of CoVid19 (or even the flu viruses for that matter). The CDC only “recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission” (copied directly from the CDC website). If Disney Springs is a ghost town, there isn’t any good reason to wear a mask while just walking around; however speaking to a server at a restaurant or making a purchase at a checkout counter is another matter. Like others have said, masks offer a sense of safety, but not much in the way of actual safety. And FYI I am a nurse and wear a mask for 12+ hours while I work, which causes me and several of my coworkers to develop a headache about halfway through every shift we work – but I absolutely believe in using PPE in the necessary/appropriate settings and will continue to do so when unable to maintain necessary physical/social distancing in a public setting.
Die hard fan here, so it absolutely pains me to say it but I won’t be going back until masks are optional. I haven’t canceled trips yet, hope I won’t have to
How has City Walk’s attendance been?
i visited the first open day. it was wonderful to go back , enough was open yjat i was satisfied, a bit surprised at the low turnout but what a,nice change. i ate at ye Sake my favorite eateey and intend on going back..the mask wearing is tough, very hard to breathe
Tom- do you live in Florida now? Or CA? Or maybe you have a place in both. Wonder if you flew from CA?
I’m wondering same thing! Curious minds need to know.
We visited Disney Springs the second day it was open. It was definitely a different feel for Disney. We did enjoy the light crowds. Wearing masks were a struggle as it was very hot, so not gonna lie, we pulled them down when we were outside and kept them on in stores. The stores that were open were very limited, and we were so disappointed that no Disney owned stores were open. We were hoping to get some graduation ears for my daughter and her friend, that are graduating, and I am all about shopping for all things Disney 🙂
The girls picked T-Rex to eat. Got right in, which was a first. The menu was somewhat limited, but delicious none the less.
I wanted a Disney fix so bad, I paid a crazy amount for a Disney World balloon, lol, but I least I felt like I had to been to Disney World.
I’m beginning to wonder if the “no mask” folks are also the same folks who would be willing to take a trip to Orlando right now. Maybe the people who are ok with masks don’t number enough to make up the numbers Disney will need. I’m thinking of people in my own life who would be willing to travel to Disney right now and those who wouldn’t. There are very few I know who would travel there and wear masks, but many who would be happy to visit without the masks. Not sure why it hadn’t occurred to me until today.
You are describing me to a tee….I’m the “no mask folk”. Very good observation.
I completely agree! I think people who want to wear a mask 24/7 inside/outside would lean toward it’s too risky to go to WDW regardless of the mask policy, whereas those of us who are a little bit more flexible in our mask wearing or lack thereof are more than happy to visit, with much looser mask requirements or none. For example I would go to Legoland ASAP bc the masks are not required, but would postpone my Disney trip until the same happens there. I think you are definitely on to something!
My family and I are definitely “no mask folks”. We won’t be returning to Disney until the face covering policy is at least made optional. We will spend our money elsewhere.
Yes, we’d absolutely go tomorrow if no masks were required.
I think exactly the opposite about masks.
That Disney requires masks shows me they are taking the virus and guest/employee health seriously, and make me feel much more comfortable rebooking our cancelled trip, and my social circle would largely share that view.
Were masks not the policy, our group of 10 would not be traveling to Disney in the fall.
I suspect that who any of us know are likely a poor sample of the public as a whole.
WJ said: “Yes, we’d absolutely go tomorrow if no masks were required.”
Same here. And we DID have reservations for the first week of July. I cancelled them when it was confirmed Disney Springs was opening with mandatory mask requirement. I couldn’t imagine the parks opening without the same restriction. So I just cancelled and got the refund. It’ll be the first 4th of July week in years that we HAVEN’T gone to MK. Sad. But I refuse to spend a couple grand in food and resort expenses, only to be forced into masks in July heat/humidity. Not so bad in cooler December, but in July it would be sweltering insanity.
I was thinking the same thing Erin. I think the no mask people are just wanting to get back to life and are willing to take more risks. Where I think the mask wearers are more concerned about the current situation and are taking less risks. Yes I know masks are not for the wearer they are for others, but I’m guessing most no maskers would tell you if that’s the only reason you are wearing a mask they are fine if you skip it. This isn’t a bash on either side. Everyone has the right to their opinion and needs to take whatever precautions they deem necessary for their family. But if masks weren’t mandatory I think crowds would be a lot bigger…
“diehard hot dog hounds…”
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
We would head up from Miami despite the parks being closed because we really enjoy Disney Springs and the drive is not too long. With that said, if we can’t stay at one of the Disney resort hotels we wouldn’t head up there. We are obviously not “locals” but like Tom and Sarah we view Disney Springs as a vacation destination but it has to be coupled with just a bit more Disney enjoyment and hospitality (and a pool). Of course any of the Disney resorts fit this short vacation description.
Disney Springs is totally different than the parks, at least for those of us from out of state. No comparison.
The low turnout is understandable when you consider how difficult and expensive it is to fly into Orlando from the northeast right now. My wife and I were willing to come down taking all necessary precautions but just getting a flight was cost prohibitive not to mention finding a decent place to stay is almost impossible. I think you will see an increase in Disney Springs traffic once travel eases slightly. I would be thrilled to just come down and get some sunshine and be able to get a meal in a Disney Springs restaurant even if the parks remain closed. Thanks for keeping us informed.
Our April trip was canceled, but we hope to make the November one. I realize now that I could never keep a mask on in Florida’s extreme heat and humidity. Even in November and December you can get hot days. Not sure I can wear one then either. I’m not anti-mask, I’m anti-Disney trip if I have to wear a mask. There is a difference.
I would enjoy visiting Disney at 25% capacity. Our first trip in 1973 could be considered 25% capacity by today’s standards. It was a joy. My sons were chosen to be guests of the day and were given pins and scrolls with their names on them and were also guests of honor in the parade. What a day. And admission was just $2.50 for the day (adult). No bag check. No crowds. No lines. Again, a joy.
Michael Eisner was called in to help Disney when they were at a financial crossroad. Like him or not, his plans saved Disney. Today, like many other businesses, Disney faces another financial crossroad, that they will hopefully get through. I hope the reopening is handled in a proper and safe way. More than that, I hope the virus calms itself down and the numbers flatten, and that everyone is smart enough to stay safe. I miss me my Disney World.
Walter: not sure where you are in the NE but I live in CT and can easily get to either airport in CT or RI within just about an hour. Spirit and Frontier airlines are as low as $34 each way. I’m looking at booking for mid-August. Both fly out of Boston and NYC. I think Frontier even flies out of Albany…not sure where you are but flights can be found cheap.
I see a lot of mask shaming on these blogs, but no one seems to be pointing out that the Governor of Florida has a mandatory quarantine for NY, NJ and Connecticut. Unless you are willing to quarantine for two weeks upon getting to Florida, you shouldn’t be going. People on flights from those states are being stopped at the airport.
I’m going to cast a vote for “the parks are different.” I’m in a state that has recently opened up, and I’m not partaking. No hair salon for me despite my very very gray roots. No dining out–delivery or takeout only. Still shopping online only, not in store. Still paying my son’s preschool, but not sending him in (I am lucky to still be allowed to work from home). I just have zero interest in subjecting my family to extra risk for non-essential activities. EXCEPT I still have a Disney World vacation planned in August. So go figure. I get it’s not in the least bit rational, but going on this vacation that we’ve been dreaming of for months and months just feels so much more necessary than going shopping or dining out. I guess we just have to have something to look forward to after everything we’ve been though—and that something is not an outdoor shopping mall.
Well said @MomOTwins and I can totally understand and relate ! I feel the same in many ways.
Hmmmm. Makes no sense to me. You won’t risk going to get your hair cut but you will go to the park? Seems a little misguided
I’m in a similar boat, we have a trip near the end of August for 15 days that’s the result of 5 years of planning, and, due to both myself and my spouse changing jobs within the last 13 months (and transitioning from some that were just awful for taking vacations), we haven’t had a real vacation in about 4 years. There’s a risk/reward in everything, not to mention the need, for mental health, to have an actual break from work (particularly now)!
The risk/reward for anything but the necessities isn’t worth it, but a once a lifetime vacation, even with all the likely limitations, is hard to simply say “meh, later”, and actually does have tangential repercussions.
We’ll go back when masks aren’t mandated.
I am not local, but even if I were I wouldn’t go to Disney Springs right now. I’m fine with masks. There just isn’t anything there worth the risk of potentially being part of spreading the virus. I am still working (masked) so I come into contact with many people and need to be concious of how my choices impact those in my community.
Very well said and completely agree with this point of view. Although I might go just for dinner and quickly hit Marketplace Coop if I were local. While adhering to all safety measures and masks, etc. I’m not comfortable going out for any length of time here at home though so maybe I wouldn’t even do that.