Another Disney “Drop Day” Disaster
Theme park reservations and new ticket sales for Disneyland and Disney California have now been open over 24 hours, with the rollout being a “little bit” rocky. This post recaps how things went, are currently going, park availability, and offers commentary on yet another resounding success for Disney IT!
None of this should come as a colossal surprise to anyone who read the warnings in our How to Make Disneyland Reopening Reservations post. That recapped some of Disney’s past “slow-motion train wrecks” with drop days, suggesting that many of you would become “intimately acquainted with the details of Disney’s virtual waiting rooms” (how many of you now hate the beloved Big Thunder goat?!) while spending multiple hours in a queue only to have the system crash.
This is how it always goes on Disney drop days. Some people spend the better part of a day waiting only to come up empty handed. Anyone who has tried to book something on a Disney “drop day” probably has their own horror story. As we said in the above post, these woes are predictable and inevitable until Disney IT upgrades the ‘ole Gateway 2000 they use to run the Go.com servers…
Another prediction was that by April 16, “the reservation system will work smoothly and still have plenty of availability for the vast majority of dates,” further suggesting that many of you might thus wonder why you wasted your time on the first day. We also recommended not even bothering if your visit dates were after June 14, 2021.
As pointed out there, these predictions were made with such specificity because we’ve already been down this road many, many times. So, how did things actually go? Well, you probably already know the answer to that, but in case not…
Let’s start with the good news: the virtual queue for theme park reservations actually opened slightly early!
I didn’t plan on writing a post about this, so I didn’t meticulously document times, but I entered the virtual queue at sometime around 7:50 am. I’ve heard from others who entered earlier and there were even scattered reports of some people getting in and out pretty quickly–by like 9 am.
However, that was not how things played out for most people. Paradoxically, Disneyland stated “the wait is almost over” despite a wait time of “more than an hour” for a few hours.
Around 11 am Pacific (the above screenshot is from 11:02 am) it switched from a wait time of “more than an hour” to “recalculating” for about 30 minutes, or what felt like eternity.
At 2:16 pm Pacific, I received the message that it was my turn to enter. Hooray!
In talking to friends who joined the virtual queue around the same time as me, this felt almost random. Someone who joined before me wasn’t called until 3 pm, and someone who joined at the exact same time as me was called about 10 minutes before me.
Hello, old friend! After clicking through a couple of screens, I was greeted by a familiar face, who ate my page.
Ah, the human drama of athletic Disney fan competition, the thrill of victory…the agony of defeat!
Fortunately, this didn’t really matter to me. I didn’t plan on booking anything yesterday, but was simply going through the motions to report on the topic, answer reader questions, and for fun I guess. (My concept of “fun” might be a bit warped.)
After trying a few things and hitting some dead-ends, I actually was able to re-enter the selection page without a long wait. I didn’t complete the booking process, so I’m not sure whether it would’ve worked, but at least it let me back in.
Following that, I joined the virtual queue again for the sake of further research/fun/stupidity at around 2:30 pm.
It was my turn again shortly after midnight, which I discovered this morning when I woke up. (Guess my grandma was wrong about nothing good happening after midnight!)
At that time, I was able to enter the queue immediately. Granted, it was 5 am Pacific, so most Disneyland locals weren’t up.
After 8 am Pacific, the wait time has bounced around. I’ve seen it as low as a few minutes and as high as 55 minutes. At the time this being published, the wait time is 40 minutes. I’d expect that to fluctuate throughout the day, and not going away as word gets around to people who gave up in frustration yesterday.
This has resulted in a lot of media headlines touting the intense demand exceeding the limited supply. There’s undoubtedly a degree of truth to that, but the subtext is that hordes of diehard Disneyland tried to quickly gobble up reservations. Our view is that the better angle is one of technical difficulties.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Chapek on CNBC later this week boasting about “robust consumer demand” and “brand affinity” for Disneyland, spinning the ridiculous virtual queue waits as a success rather a failure. I wish that were a joke.
The reason this is not simply a matter of demand surpassing supply is the current calendar of available dates (you can view that without waiting in the virtual queue). There literally is not a single date that is fully booked–June 5 and 12 come closest, with no availability for 1-park per day ticket holders, but still options for Park Hopper tickets. Many dates, particularly weekends, are gone for Disneyland. However, there’s still plenty of availability almost every single day for Disney California Adventure–including opening day.
Our expectation is that dates will continue to book up; we’re not suggesting there’s a lack of pent-up demand. With that said, the slow pace of bookings thus far indicates it’s a pipeline issue rather than solely a matter of supply v. demand. If my local McDonald’s serves one Big Mac per hour and there’s a 12-hour line as a result, the story there is not a triumph of consumer demand. It means something has gone terribly wrong. But I digress.
Getting most of this right hardly makes us clairvoyant, and it might even seem odd that we’re taking a bit of a victory lap over something that we thought was so obvious. It might even be ‘poor form’ to be doing so with regard to something that caused so many people so much frustration. Nevertheless, we hope it might be a cautionary tale, and those who aren’t glutton for punishment will take heed next time.
We do have to admit that even we did not anticipate the extent of Disney’s IT woes. Our expectation was that the staggered approach would help, and they would’ve learned from Walt Disney World’s reservation release day 10 months ago. In a way, you’ve really gotta hand it to them–not learning from past mistakes and somehow having more problems is quite the feat!
Ultimately, this saga of Disneyland reopening reservations is still unfinished. We have a lot of additional thoughts about pent-up demand, summer crowd levels, actual capacity, park hopping, SoCal ticket deals, and when Annual Passes will return or memberships will launch.
However, all of those are premature at this point, and probably not worth burying in a post recapping woes. Many Disneyland fans who lived through won’t read anyway because the wounds are still too fresh and painful. We’ll be back sometime next week with more on some/all of those topics!
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YOUR THOUGHTS
Were you able to make advance theme park reservations for Disneyland or Disney California Adventure? Did you waste your entire day on the task? Any horror stories of your own to share? Do you have plans to visit California this summer or fall, or will you hold off until 2022? Do you agree or disagree with our assessment? Other thoughts or concerns? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
I work mostly at DCA, but at our recent reopening training we were informed that at the security checkpoints guests must show a California identification or drivers license upon entry and will be turned away if they do not have one.
My Disney story: Logged in 9:51 am PST (during work on Zoom mind you) , message read “an hour wait time” then by my lunch break 11:50 am it read “calculating” then eventually “ more than an hour”. I checked out AAA sites for tickets, mentioned I was waiting to a few Fellow Disney friends and one of them mentioned they were in under 20 minutes (7 am queue, 8am opening”). I didn’t end up getting through until 2:01 am exactly, anxiously purchased my aaa tickets and made my three day reservations. I sighed in relief afterward & tried to enter again to “manage reservations” but it was another long wait time. My friend on the other hand some how made it through a second time to purchase and make reservations!!
I logged in at about 7:40 and was able to buy tickets and reserve the days I wanted by 9:20. no problems at all. However, then I thought about switching days and could never get back in to do so. The days I was going to change to are now gone so it looks like I’m just sticking to my original plan.
Those who are out of state and plan on going before they are allowed please be VERY aware that ID will most likely be checked at the gate. If you don’t have a CA ID there is a VERY good chance you will not get in. I would recommend canceling those reservations ASAP and letting those of us here in the state use them as they will be going to waste otherwise. You can still use the tickets later when allowed. It is a state mandate….not a Disney rule and I don’t think they want to risk being shut down again by breaking the rules (not that I agree with it or anything else Newsome does). Just my two cents.
When you purchase tickets, it asks you to certify and confirm that you are a California resident so all those people that bought when they weren’t residents should not have and basically lied. As resident of California, I wish Disney could have made it so you have to provide some sort of resident validation, like they did when they sold So Cal AP’s. All those out of staters trying to buy tickets when they weren’t suppose to probably didn’t help the strain on the system.
I’m wondering if all these people on different devices were causing somewhat of a traffic jam?
Debbie: I was successful at both purchasing multi-day tickets and making park reservations as a nonresident for a late June trip. The tickets have an expiration of 2023 in the event I have to cancel.
I am confused. I thought only Ca residents could get tickets. Can I get tickets and hope Disneyland is opened to out of state visitors by then?
Reading with interest and enormous anticipation. Booked to travel from U.K. Sept 23rd and not anywhere does it state the chances of international park reservations being open. Feeling very nervous as Disneyland is the whole purpose of trip. Monitored the booking system last few days and it has left me feeling worried. What are the chances when new dates comes out June onwards that they will be offered internationally?
So the CA resident restrictions are not from Disney, it’s a state thing. It really won’t be Disney making that decision. If we really do open our state on the 15th, I’m guessing we are going to want accurate numbers if there is a spike in infections. Which means no out of staters probably till after 4th of July
I logged on at 7:35AM and was finished by 9:30AM. My coworkers were not so lucky. They ended getting tickets from another website and still had to wait for reservations. I am glad they got them though :).
I hope the crowds are thin during the weekends I chose.
I logged on at 7AM Eastern this morning and instantly I was able to purchase multiday tickets plus make reservations for my late June trip. I was successful with the ticket purchase and park reservation even though I am not a California resident and I clearly used my non-California resident address for all areas requiring my address. I do have a DVC reservation at Grand Californian. I plan to postpone the trip if DL doesn’t lift the residency restrictions as the trip approaches.
Are you planning a visit/report on opening day?
Not at this time. Our first visit will probably be around June 15!
Queue…and yes I was totally sick of the goat and spinning Big Thunder train yesterday!
I got into the que at 7:15 am using two different devices. I was able to book tickets on my iPhone on LTE at 9:30! The other device didn’t get anywhere and I would have been completely frustrated if I had only used one device!
Today was so much quicker and easier to get through the queue – until I realized that somehow my app account and my online account aren’t linked and now I can’t make my dang reservation because my ticket numbers are already “linked to another account.” Ugh. Looks like I get to wait on hold for 7-12 hours on the phone with Disney?
Sounds like trying to get an appointment at Publix for a vaccine.
LOL If you really did that, you are my hero.
My similar experiences to guys involves acquiring concert tickets to certain bands that always sell out every show. The old systems were similar to Disney’s system – they would open up to everyone at one time and would be a mad rush and constant refreshing only to end up with nothing hours later. More recently they have moved to a lottery system to those of us in the fan club – you put in for the shows you want, they randomly pick until tickets are gone then let you know which ones you got – it’s fair and saves the anxiety and doesn’t involve slamming a server until it crashes.
At least with the Disney systems, once things calm down, you can usually go on and get what you want.
When I checked the calendar late last night I noticed they added Disneyland Park days back to April 30th and May 1st, which I found interesting (gone again this morning, of course), unless it was just a calendar hiccup. It also now looks like Avengers Saturday is the first fully-booked day for all parks and ticket types. I’m not sure if this is covered elsewhere, but is there any word whether Avengers Campus will need a virtual queue to enter like Galaxy’s Edge required for the first 7 hours or so of its public debut?
I wanted to say no one would wait 12 hours for a Big Mac, but a Chick-fil-A just opened up by my house and last Sunday I removed the drive-through cones and parked at the order board as if they were open, and let me tell you, you would be surprised at how long people will wait for a subpar chicken sandwich. So who knows.
The pictures tied to the prose was killing me.
Interesting that you will monitor bus wait times, subject yourself to broken online queues, visit the parks when they are crowded….but won’t tolerate holding on the phone.
We’ve all got our limits.
No joke: I would rather spend 12 hours in a virtual queue than 12 minutes on the phone.