First Impressions of Star Wars Land at Disney World
Bright suns! Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Walt Disney World is now open. We arrived at Disney’s Hollywood Studios just before 4 a.m., and were inside the blockbuster new land shortly thereafter. Suffice to say, it’s already been a fun (and long!) first day, but we wanted to share some photos and offer first impressions now that we’ve spent some time in both versions. Before we get going, we should caution that 95% (or more) of Star Wars Land at Disney’s Hollywood Studios is identical to “Batuu West.”
Accordingly, if you’ve already read our reviews from that version, you already know (most of) what we have to say about Walt Disney World’s Star Wars Land. We aren’t going to retread the tens of thousands of words we’ve already written, so if you’re looking for reviews of substance, check out our Review of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge: A Land Like No Other. If you want a nuts and bolts primer, read our Star Wars Land Info & Galaxy’s Edge Guide or consult the following:
- Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run Review
- Docking Bay 7 Food & Cargo Review
- Oga’s Cantina Review
- Dok-Ondar’s Den of Antiquities Review
- Savi’s Workshop for Handbuilt Lightsabers Review
- Droid Depot Build-A-Droid Review
We’ll also warn you that what follows here is mostly assorted geekery, including how things differ in Batuu East, good and puzzling design decisions, and various things to expect from Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge in Disney’s Hollywood Studios. If you’re expecting big revelations about the Walt Disney World version of Galaxy’s Edge, you’re going to be disappointed…
One thing we will not be doing is re-reviewing the land or discussing the decision to utilize an original planet over existing settings from Star Wars films, and how that might’ve contributed to why it wasn’t an immediate smash hit at Disneyland.
I do think this is potentially an interesting topic, but one for December or later. However, it’s premature and the debate around this has already become exhausting. I see little reason to revisit this topic until late this year or early next; until then, it’s just endless back and forth speculation.
Another thing we won’t be doing is talking crowds. It’s absolutely packed in Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge right now–considerably busier than what we’ve ever seen at Batuu West–but it’s also the first morning of the first day. This always happens with new attractions and lands they day they open at Walt Disney World.
What will be interesting is to see whether the current 300 minute posted wait for Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run is normal or whether it settles into a more ‘average’ range in a week or so. (Although with Hurricane Dorian approaching Florida, it could be a weird week for crowds/wait times.)
One thing I do think is interesting about Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge is the design difference between the two coasts…
In John Hench’s Designing Disney, the Imagineering legend discusses color choices for the various parks in California, Florida, Tokyo, etc., and how the different skies and sunlight play a role. Most notably, he discusses how Florida’s deep blue sky have led to warmer color choices. Although his analysis was retrospective, I think the same could be fairly applied to Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge.
The Disneyland version version is monochrome, which gives it an uninviting quality. The ornate details and grandiose landscape make it compelling and interesting, nonetheless, but it doesn’t have that welcoming and reassuring quality that Disney’s best, romanticized environments possess.
Batuu at Disney’s Hollywood Studios presents a partial correction to this. It’s further assisted by the adjacent Toy Story Land with its poppy colors and whimsical sensibility, which offers a surprisingly nice contrast to Galaxy’s Edge. On the other side, a richly-themed Muppets land next door to Galaxy’s Edge would’ve been the perfect bookend. Alas!
The warmer, deeper, and more varied color palette used on Batuu in Walt Disney World was a wise move. This is a step in the right direction, and I’d be willing to bet that over time, more splashes of color are added to both versions of Batuu. Simply put, Batuu East looks better and is more visually appealing. That’s right, for once Walt Disney World is getting the better version of something!
In several areas, the layout of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge has been tweaked and condensed in Florida. This is an ironic twist, as Disneyland is short on space and Walt Disney World has the “blessing of size,” but it’s evident in several spots. Most notably, the long approach from Critter Country leading into the Resistance Forest is gone.
Even though, you’re going from Downtown Los Angeles to Resistance Forest, which are two disparate environments, I think the condensed layout works better. Perhaps I’ll think differently when Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance is open and this area is overflowing with people. For now, I prefer the tighter staging of Florida’s version.
There is also one fewer entrance to Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Walt Disney World, which means you have an awkward dead end on the First Order side. That’s about the only downside to the differences between the coasts. On balance, I’d still say Walt Disney World comes out ahead. It’s not a huge advantage, as again, the two lands are ~95% clones.
Other layout tweaks were made throughout Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at DHS, but these will be imperceptible to most guests.
One adaptation that was not made is to account for differences in weather between California and Florida. After Toy Story Land was lambasted for this last year, you think Disney would’ve scrambled to address any such issues with Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. Apparently not.
The blame for this is often laid at the feet of California-centric Imagineering, but I have no clue whether that’s true. When it comes to Toy Story Land, there are (uncorroborated) tales of Operations (in Florida) fighting to cut a lot of things that would’ve served as shade or shelter. There’s also the reality that those California folks have managed to successfully design for the rain and snow of Paris and Tokyo.
Whatever the cause, it’s baffling that more shade and shelter wasn’t built into Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. The shade part of this isn’t as big of a problem, but there are still plenty of umbrellas set up throughout the land.
Shelter is more perplexing, as putting a concealed glass ceiling above the marketplace would’ve been such an easy fix.
This is hardly a revolutionary idea. Imagineering built exactly this for similar environments at Casbah Food Court at Tokyo DisneySea and the Morocco pavilion in Epcot. Let’s not forget: Star Wars Land is Space Morocco!
Shade and shelter are operational realities, and some degree of ‘umbrella action’ is going to happen regardless, but why the land wasn’t designed for this is a bit disappointing.
One of the biggest intangibles of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge is the characters that inhabit the land. In addition to doing little skits (fixing ships, battling, etc.) there’s an overarching storyline of Galaxy’s Edge that unfolds in the streets around guests.
The idea is that the First Order, Stormtroopers, and Kylo Ren are constantly in search of Rey, Chewbecca, and the Resistance. In the simplest possible terms, it’s like a constant game of hide and seek, with guests placed in the middle (it’s way cooler than that sounds).
There has been a lot of fear online about how these free-roaming characters would translate to Walt Disney World. I find this to be justifiable because, frankly, guests at Walt Disney World have no chill.
Free roaming characters are a staple of the Disneyland experience, and all (literally) of the park’s best moments with characters unfold in an organic and spontaneous manner as characters like Mary Poppins, Peter Pan, or the Evil Queen wander the park.
The ‘culture’ around characters is very different at Walt Disney World. Recently, I saw Prince John and Friar Tuck walking around Main Street in Magic Kingdom after they finished their last set.
A couple was sitting down playing checkers when the characters “interrupted” them to offer strategic advice. It was a sweet, natural interaction and was something special–both for the guest playing checkers and onlookers.
That is, until another guest tried to corner the characters for a posed photo, at which point Prince John and Friar Tuck bailed, and the guest became irate with a nearby attendant.
I’ve seen similar versions of this same scenario play out many times. Last year during Incredible Tomorrowland Expo at Magic Kingdom, I saw free-roaming characters cornered over by the restrooms on multiple occasions. (Don’t ask why I’m spending so much time by the restrooms!) This usually ends with characters rushing backstage and a yelling guest.
I’m not totally sure what drives this. It could be planning obsessives who have to get the perfectly-posed photo, it could be all of the online resources devoted to character tracking, it could be the Florida heat & humidity pushing everyone to the brink.
All I know is that Disneyland guests are generally more laid back, and this is doubly so when it comes to character encounters. This is too bad for Walt Disney World, as free roaming characters add a ton to the atmosphere of the park.
Thankfully, the Star Wars characters are free roaming in Disney’s Hollywood Studios (for now) just as they were in Disneyland, and guests seem to be reacting well (for now) to this approach. I really hope things remain this way, and guests can stay cool when it comes to the roaming characters, because they’re such an essential component of Galaxy’s Edge.
Perhaps I’m too much of an optimist, but I’d love for Walt Disney World guests to see just how superior of an approach this is to staged/posed meet & greets. It’d be great if all character encounters trended in this direction.
I don’t think this is as unrealistic as it might sound. Younger generations prefer organic experiences and photos/videos that appear candid.
Plus, a ton of content like this from Galaxy’s Edge at Disneyland has already gone viral on social media, making this kind of character engagement is better (free) marketing for Disney.
I’m also optimistic that the roaming droids, impromptu performances, and original characters that Imagineering originally intended to populate the land will appear in the not-too-distant future. These are mostly quick and easy additions that would give Batuu an even greater lived-in feeling, and could work wonders as way to give Galaxy’s Edge a shot in the arm whenever it might need one.
Overall, this is a long-winded way of saying that, for better and worse, Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge is mostly the same land at Walt Disney World as it is in Disneyland. Some tweaks have been made that I’d construe as improvements, while others, frustratingly, have not been made. There’s still room for future growth, and it should see a big boost when Rise of the Resistance opens.
In the meantime, I stand by my original assessment that Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge is a land like no other. Although it offers an amalgamation of the best aspects of each of these superlative lands found around the globe, it’s unlike anything you’ve experienced. It’s at once marvelous, domineering, intimate, and detailed. If this isn’t the best themed environment, it’s certainly top 5. Even if you’re not a Star Wars fan, go in with an open mind and appreciate Space Morocco for all that it offers.
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Your Thoughts
What do you think of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge? Are you excited to visit the Walt Disney World version, or does this not interest you? Planning on braving the crowds to go right away, or waiting? Do you agree or disagree with our assessment? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
When I was a kid (in the olden days) it seemed like the characters were wondering all over WDW. That’s what gave it charm. Hopefully Galaxy’s Edge can stay this way. Thanks for all your tips!
As a past costumed character actor at a major amusement park 17 years ago (non Disney. Warner Brothers at the time), I wholeheartedly agree with having free-roaming characters. It saddens me how “staged,” or rather “caged,” the characters have become at all theme parks (Disney, Six Flags, Sesame Place, etc.). Us characters thrived on creating fun and unique “scenes” and experiences with the guests. We even came up with creative ways of trying to get from Point A to Point B of the park when there was no time to stop for pics/autographs: We would do a skit of the “bad” character from the cartoons chasing the “good” character across the park. The guests would cheer and laugh, and none of them the wiser that we were just trying to get to a staged show on the other end of the park that started in 10 minutes. lol. It was a blast. On days where we were stationed in a certain area, it was never with a lineup. We would walk around and interact with guests (with an escort). Alas, that was before the world needed to be “social media ready” with instant pictures to post of staged perfection. Sigh. lol.
Friar Tuck and Prince John photos are sight for sore eyes haha. I love interacting with the rare fur characters but I do not force myself on them when they are roaming.
Love the Space Morocco comparison. I was there yesterday at 3:45am and when I got to the marketplace I kept looking up at the steel wires intermixed with the gold lanterns….same thoughts. Had a blast yesterday and can’t wait to go back! Maybe I can get back Monday if the prehurricane crowds are low…
Dude!!! We were there, too! We looked for you…..We got there at 5:45 and all the lines were too much, but we took in the scenery and resolved to come back. You were 100% correct in your predictions: they opened well before 6, and the smugglers run wait time went down to 90 minutes at 6pm.
You’re the best!!
This new section looks awesome! Would love to head back to Disney and visit soon, it is one of my favourite things to do in the USA!
We went to HS yesterday – it was planned into our holiday itinerary before the SWGE was announced to open – dreading the thought but couldn’t rearrange my FP and ADR for the day so chanced it. Got there in at 11am managed to do our FP’s and get a GE boarding pass – we weren’t expecting to do the new ride but managed to discover that the Single Rider queue was less that the 3hours we queued and did it in 30 minutes – have to say we didn’t plan to do it but thought as we were there may as well give it a go – have to say it was disappointing and glad I didn’t waste 3 hours. I am not a avatar fan but love the FOP ride which is amazing – all in all glad we kept our day planned for the opening day as we have done it and the rest of the park was Average crowds and the look of SWGE is amazing.
Speaking of going Into the park and getting your virtual que , are you able to have fast passes as well? At the same park or even different parks? Or in order to get a virtual que you must have a clear day?
The virtual queue/boarding pass system is not connected to the fastpass+ system in any way. Completely separate.
We unfortunately are going to be at HS when the newest SW ride opens in December. Would it be insane to go to the park opening day or the day after, or will it not matter because it will just be crazy for a while? I originally had us at HS on Dec 5th and then Disney announced the date.
We don’t get to the parks before 7 am with 3 kids in tow but so like to be rope droppers.
We are not used to crowds at WDW- we have been twice and picked the week we did a year ago thinking crowds would be low
We were there for the first AP preview slot, and we were strolling through the marketplace when suddenly Rey swooped in and “recruited” my 6-year-old to help her hide from Kylo! The two of them dashed in and out of nooks and crannies in the area for several minutes, and he had an absolute blast “protecting” her and scanning for First Order Troopers! I think he’ll remember this roaming interaction far longer than any of the staged character meet-and-greets!
That sounds awesome. Random interactions are the best when they happen.
Here’s an example of the organic interactions with the Disney characters. I was at Disneyland yesterday (8/29/19) and saw Alice and the Mad Hatter enter the teacup ride area. After they walked around and politely closed all the teacup doors for the riders, they each (separately) boarded a teacup and rode with delighted guests. Got a spontaneous picture with Geppetto and watched Belle and the Beast ride the carousel with excited children. And this was just in Fantasy land. Disney magic !!!
Really interesting read. I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on the differences between GE at DL vs WDW. Great post!
I am always baffled when I read your articles. You are a WDW person, that is it. Did you know Walt or some of is team? I doubt it. You are a self made expert with no background????
Jack
They are just posting what they are seeing don’t be a jerk
On the issue of free roaming characters, is it not the case that they used to roam around at WDW? I have vague memories from my childhood visits (1980’s) of stumbling upon characters without waiting in lines.
If you read Tom’s background, he is a lifelong Disney World attendee and fan from his boyhood to the present day. He and his wife travel extensively to all worldwide Disney locations, have stayed in every hotel, eaten is all restaurants, gone on all the rides, been at the parks at all hours, and critique everything from a visitor standpoint. If this doesn’t qualify as an expert, I don’t know what would. I’d rather read his first-hand accounts than some polished piece from a Disney World spokesperson. Not everything Tom writes is “glowing,” by the way. We have visited WDW three times and found the information on this blog to be very useful.
LOL, has someone been standing outside in the Orlando heat too long?
Curious as to your thoughts on why SWGE seems to be getting bashed so badly online. I personally find it baffling but most people on the Micechat boards seem to universally hate it.
People on the Micechat boards love to hate. If any new “thing” in the parks doesn’t perfectly match their ideal of what it should be, they rant, complain and whine.
Agreed. I can’t even read the comments on Micechat articles, they are always so angry and condescending. I am guessing the woman who decided this piece was “too negative” has never in her life stumbled on to one of those comment threads. THAT is anger and bleakness and negativity to the nth degree. I appreciate that Tom is a realist. The DL regulars that dominate Micechat and a few other West Coast-centric sites make Tom look like the official Parks Blog by comparison.
D’oh, that comment about this blog being “too negative” was on another recent post of Tom’s regarding the Princess and the Frog restaurant at the Reflections DVC. Sorry.
“Curious as to your thoughts on why SWGE seems to be getting bashed so badly online. I personally find it baffling but most people on the Micechat boards seem to universally hate it.”
There are a lot of reasons for this; here’s some speculation:
1) It genuinely didn’t live up to sky-high hype for them.
2) They’re mad that it was added to Walt Disney’s magic kingdom (and this is critique with which I’d agree, even if that ship has sailed) and they will never get over that, irrespective of the land’s substance.
3) The attractions-to-retail ratio is currently unbalanced for them.
4) They have issues with the direction of the Star Wars universe, Disney’s ownership of it, etc., and Galaxy’s Edge is simply a vehicle for other, totally unrelated criticism of Star Wars. This might seem silly, but I sense that there’s a LOT of this out there.
5) Other.
I wouldn’t dismiss all of the criticism of Galaxy’s Edge out of hand. I’ve read plenty that I find legitimate, and that has changed my own perspective of the land. However, a lot of it just makes me want to pound my head on the table.
“I wouldn’t dismiss all of the criticism of Galaxy’s Edge out of hand. I’ve read plenty that I find legitimate, and that has changed my own perspective of the land. ”
Tom, please tell us what things you have changed your perspective about. I’m very curious to know since you raved about Batuu East.
“I wouldn’t dismiss all of the criticism of Galaxy’s Edge out of hand. I’ve read plenty that I find legitimate, and that has changed my own perspective of the land.”
Tom, please tell us what criticisms of SW:GE have caused you to change your perspective. I’m very curious to know since you raved about Batuu East.
CORRECTION to my previous comment: You raved about Batuu West (not East).
Note: I accidentally posted two similar comments above. Oops.. sorry.
Thoughts on why SW:GE is getting bashed online:
1. What was delivered was far, far less than what was advertised. For those of us who got excited about the announcement of SW:GE at D23 2015, and tantalized over all the detail reveals at D23 2017, seeing the finished product landed with a big thud. Disney fell all over themselves advertising and hyping all sorts of things that then got cut from the budget (immersive dinner theatre restaurant, live entertainment, free-roaming droids, in-land characters that might approach you to collect on a bounty hunter debt or whatever, in-land consequences for your performance on MF:SR and participation in hacking games). SW:GE is great, but it’s much less great if you compare it to what we were promised.
2. The decision to open the land without its signature headliner ride. I don’t blame them for opening the land (instead of waiting 6+ months for RotR to be ready), but in the context of the current Bob Chapek regime, it’s yet another example of putting retail and revenue above the guest experience.
3. The lack of a kid-friendly attraction. Of course, one had been planned, but Chapek cut it from the budget.
4. The fact that the best themed experience in SW:GE costs $200 per person. Instead of giving you an amazing experience that entices you to buy something (like Ollivander’s), they are just selling the experience itself $$$.
5. The decision to “place” it in the timeline gap between episodes 8 & 9, which means that, within SW:GE, the majority of ‘iconic’ Star Wars characters are either very old or outright dead. Most people old enough to post on Micechat are old enough to STRONGLY prefer an experience with Luke, Vader, and Boba Fett over Rey, Kylo, and the randos from Rebels.
6. The fact that Disney prepared so extensively for massive crowds this summer, and that crowds were actually historically low, reinforces the hypothesis that SW:GE isn’t connecting with the public, and that management is woefully out of touch with why people actually enjoy the parks.
7. The fact that, on both coasts, Disney completely cheaped out on finishing the rock work. From behind, the thing looks a sad, hollow steel shell, and the backsides of both SW:GEs are very visible to guests (butting up against a parking structure and a major road, respectively). There are also spots INSIDE both Disneyland and DHS where you can clearly see where the rockwork stops and the steel begins, which would be unforgivable in previous eras of Disney management (see Everest, Pandora, etc).
This reason doesnt apply to me since I dont understand the Star Wars story. I’ve talked to many diehard Star Wars fans who refuse to visit SWGE because they hate the direction the Star Wars franchise has gone since Disney bought the franchise.
I fall under Tom’s #2 Disneyland reason plus some other reasons:
I dislike screen based motion simulator attractions because I prefer physical sets and they make me nauseous.
Some non-Star Wars people (myself included) are so Star Wars fatigued. I was already tired of Star Wars in the entertainment world before Disney purchased the franchise. When Disney purchased the franchise, Star Wars is shoved in our faces constantly at the parks such as attraction overlays (Hyperspace Mountain, Launch Bay), firework shows, parades (March of First Order), and merchandise in every store. I conceded to that fact DHS has been invaded by Star Wars and it will never change. DHS is my least favorite domestic park anyways.
Even with my negativity toward Star Wars, I look forward to at least seeing the details of the SWGE just like Pandora.
I have to absolutely agree with your assessment on the “younger generation” preferring candid shots. Well at least as a youngish (if mid 20’s is considered so) person I prefer that than staged and posed, selfies only as a spur of the moment thing, it feels more genuine and often you remember those better.
My partner and I visited WDW for the first time last December and we lamented on how nice it would have been to see free roaming characters, but if we had any chance to see one we had to line up, which didn’t feel organic or as magical compared to seeing a character out and about.
We did luckily have a few character interactions with those who were just finishing up their meets/show: Gaston passed us and made a funny comment to my SO, and at HS my partner blew a stormtrooper a kiss, who proceeded to catch it and throw it into the ground
We loved those random interactions and really hope when we go back in 2022 (we live in Australia ugh!) that free roaming can be brought back to some extent
100% agree with you about organic character encounters. Standing in line for the same photo that hundreds of others have is extremely lame and my family never does it. In 2005, we had a fun encounter with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum that was completely random. 14 years later we are still talking about how great it was!
Disney World has no chill … you hit the nail on the head. We were at Galaxy’s Edge opening week at Disneyland and had a fantastic day. In fact, I think we had a better time than our last couple trips to Disney World and I LOVE Disney World. I couldn’t figure out exactly what made it better but I think it was the calmer crowd and absence of the oppressive heat. Although it did start to get nuts when the kids arrived for grad night.
I will take our Smuggler’s Run 20 min. ride time any day of the week over 300 minutes at WDW! I know that the crowds were way low at DL — lower than they wanted — but it made for an awesome experience for those of us there!
I was optimistic you’d get through this article without using the “Space Morocco” analogy. But everything else was great.
Younger generations prefer more organic/candid photos? Are you kidding? Selfies – the lamest photo composition ever?!? Maybe I don’t represent my entire 50-something generation, but I’d never want a posed shot with a character – much less wait for one. In total agreement: roaming characters not only provide photo ops, but also add fun atmosphere. If a mob starts, that’s what handlers are for.
I’m thinking that the huge difference is the size. There are FAR MORE people going to WDW than there are going to WDL. So you will have more craziness and an even wider variety of behaviors.
Love the idea of wandering characters. When I was there as a child the characters roamed everywhere! Mickey stole my Mickey ears! It was awesome! I don’t remember ANY meet and greets. Even back in 2002 for my honeymoon we encountered MORE roaming characters. We don’t have kids so the characters aren’t our main objective especially when you have to schedule to see them.
Not really in the way you mean, though. MK may have about 20 million visitors a year, but DL has about 18 million, DHS maybe 11. Except for MK, which only sees slightly more visitors than DL, all the other WDW parks see far fewer. There are actually far more people likely to be in DL than DHS on a given day no matter what–without having to take into account guests visiting Galaxy’s Edge in either park. Tom’s right, it has more to do with locals in Anaheim vs. once in a lifetime commando visitors in Orlando.
I think people are much ruder too than in the past and visitors reflect that. You can get rammed in the heels with strollers while watching a parade by people who want to wedge their way in front of you (even if you were there first). People think nothing of invading your space by sticking their arms (and phone cameras) right in your face to get a picture. It isn’t just at WDW.