Is Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party Too Crowded?
Last year, most Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party nights sold out. We had a chance to visit Magic Kingdom during a few October event evenings. In this post, we’ll recap our most recent experiences with crowds at Walt Disney World’s hard ticket MNSSHP event and try to address whether it’s still worth attending this year.
You might recall that at the beginning of September, we shared “A Delightfully Dead Duo of Halloween Parties” rejoicing at the low crowds. These two Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party nights reminded us of the “good ole days of these events years ago” and we cautioned you against expecting the same, as these low crowds were likely due to Hurricane Dorian, the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge, etc.
We’ve attended several partial Halloween Parties since then, most recently a sold out night in early October. We’ve had hit or miss experiences with crowds on those evenings. Some mid-September parties were fine, others were terrible. Now that October has arrived, crowds at Walt Disney World have spiked and several more upcoming Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party dates have sold out. If you have yet to purchase MNSSHP tickets this year and are on the fence, the question of whether Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party is too crowded is worth answering…
In this post, we’ll address whether Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party is too crowded, and also, what that even means. The second half is important, as ‘high crowds’ at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party mean different things to different people. This depends upon their past experiences, priorities, and even where in Magic Kingdom they spend most of their time.
If a family of first-timers to Walt Disney World attends an October Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party after visiting Magic Kingdom on a Saturday, and spends most of their party time in the back of the park doing attractions, their perception of the event will probably be positive. They’ll likely praise the short waits and wide open walkways.
Contrast that with a group who has attended several past Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Parties, but hasn’t been for the last two years. They are focused almost exclusively on the unique Halloween entertainment, and want to see it in the ‘best’ locations on Main Street. They also want photos with some characters–not all of them, but about as many as they managed to meet last time.
I cannot imagine this second group having many good things to say about Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party this year. They are likely to encounter significantly more people waiting for the entertainment–and camping out earlier for it. Congestion on Main Street and around the Hub will be much worse than what they experienced three or more years ago. They’ll be lucky to meet more than a handful of characters thanks to lines that are rarely below 30 minutes.
One problem, and reason why different guests can have dramatically different feedback from the exact same event, is that too many Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party guests are congregating in a few limited areas of the park. Main Street can feel like it’s an 11/10 in terms of crowds.
Between the fireworks and second parade, the Hub can feel downright unsafely congested as people are attempting to leave and arrive simultaneously. I cannot imagine trying to navigate a stroller through this area–I’d truly be worried about my kids. (It’s unfathomable to me that this has been a known problem for the last two years, and Disney still has inadequate crowd control in this area.)
Meanwhile, over in New Fantasyland, Adventureland, and Frontierland, there are often wide open walkways at the exact same times, and wait times for most attractions of 5-10 minutes. Guests who use the party as a way to do rides with minimal waits are still likely to be satisfied with the event. Wait times have bumped up a tad, but they’re still minimal.
Guests who attend MNSSHP to see the parade, fireworks, stage show, and character meet & greets are likely to have a very different perception. All of these things have incredibly high “crowd density” throughout the evening. You’ll have to commit more time to each of these things, and are still likely to have a worse experience than in previous years due to increased crowds, and the unfortunate byproducts of that (more shoulder kids and people holding their phones high in the area to capture footage).
One thing I’ve seen Walt Disney World visitors blaming is the Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party Pass, which is essentially an annual pass for the event. I can assure you that this is not even remotely the case. On a nightly basis, the number of guests using the Party Pass can be measured in the hundreds–or even dozens–not in the thousands.
I’m not sure why there’s a perception that there are tens of thousands of Party Passholders, but that’s simply not true. It’s basically a handful of Halloween diehards and small army (we prefer “brigade”) of bloggers. For the vast majority of guests and even the social media crowd, MNSSHP is a once-annual event, at most. This doesn’t have a passionate and dedicated fanbase like Halloween Horror Nights.
The real issues are a combination of demand and, more problematically, Walt Disney World increasing the attendance cap for both the Halloween and Christmas parties. Demand seems pretty straightforward, but it’s actually a bit more nuanced than it appears at first blush–we’ll circle back to that.
As for the attendance cap, it has been increased upped over the course of the last few years. In and of itself, this isn’t a terrible thing. Magic Kingdom has had surplus capacity during the Halloween and Christmas parties for years, evidenced by the near walk-on status of most attractions and dearth of crowds in some areas of the park.
However, it’s a problem because guests don’t naturally distribute themselves to the uncrowded areas. Instead, people continue to disproportionately flock to areas of the park that are already congested. This might sound like illogical behavior, but it’s not.
As prices also increase, more people want to make sure they get commensurate value for money, which means seeing the entertainment for which they’re paying a premium. Fewer people approach Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party without strategy or even leave early. Everyone wants the most possible bang for their buck.
This isn’t the first time we’ve brought up this issue of disproportionate crowding. Previously, we’ve noted that the goal of the attraction overlays during these hard ticket seasonal parties is to help redistribute crowds, drawing people deeper into Magic Kingdom and spreading guests through the park. In so doing, that should ease theoretically ease some congestion.
Emphasis on theoretically. We have noticed longer waits for the rides with overlays and crowds spread out a bit better this year at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party. However, that could just as easily be explained away by guests being frustrated by the chaos on Main Street and at meet & greets, and thus “settling” for those alternatives.
Those ride overlays would be effective at redistributing crowds if they were actually any good. The new Monster World Treat Trail is the best of the bunch, and even it is just okay. All of the other overlays are unambitious and not worth anyone’s limited time during the party.
Now let’s turn to demand. First, consumer confidence remains high yada yada yada more guests are willing to splurge on upcharge offerings like this. We don’t want to yada yada over the best explanation, but we’ve discussed Walt Disney World and the economy so many times that we’re becoming a broken record.
Another problem is that more people are discovering the “greatness” of the Halloween and Christmas parties thanks to social media. This isn’t to say these events were “undiscovered” or hidden gems before; both have been pretty well known for decades. It is to say past coverage of the parties has been handled with more nuance and depth, with guests making more calculated decisions about whether the events are right for them.
Instagram and other short-form social media don’t really allow for that. Photos presented without commentary showing Boo to You or Hocus Pocus Villain Spelltacular can go a long way in selling Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party. I know that if I had never been, all I’d need to see is a photo of the Haunted Mansion unit of Boo to You to convince me to buy a ticket.
Along these lines, there’s a lot of longer-form coverage generated exclusively via free media events, which often bear little resemblance to the actual guest experience. If your only MNSSHP is a low-crowds night in August and you have reserved viewing for both the parade and fireworks, plus your own private meet & greets and free refreshments, of course you’ll love it.
How much do you think that type of VIP evening resembles that of a normal paying guest attending in October? These glowing reviews help sell a ton tickets to regular tourists, who are then surprised that their experience is radically different from what they read or saw online.
Thus far, we’ve identified a lot of the causes and symptoms of the crowding problem at Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party, but haven’t addressed whether it’s too crowded or still worth the money. In large part, that’s because these are tough questions, the answers to which are personal and will vary depending upon your priorities.
This year, we’ve dropped in numerous times thanks to the Party Pass. (The more we go, the less we’re effectively paying per visit; we’re incentivized to attend more, not less.) Even before the Party Pass, we’ve gone every year for the last decade-plus. Some years, we’ve bought tickets for multiple dates. To some degree, we justify this (mostly to ourselves) as being “for the sake of research.”
We flat-out love both the Halloween and Christmas Parties. The “Should You Attend” section of our Guide to Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party covers this in detail, but MNSSHP is still worth it to us.
With that said, it’s a much closer call than it used to be, and we also don’t have the same sense of urgency as a first-timer would have to do everything. Even with the higher crowds and prices, we’re still sufficiently satisfied with the event because all we care about is the parade, fireworks, stage show, and doing a couple meet & greets.
Judging by reader comments this year, others vehemently disagree. Sometimes, it’s hard to tell where frustration ends from Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party being significantly more crowded despite costing more, and where “it’s too crowded and we won’t go again because of that” begins.
Some people plainly say as much, so it’s clear that line has been crossed for many Walt Disney World guests. Without question, we’ve received far more negative feedback about Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party in the last two years than ever before.
Ultimately, the crowds are an issue and one that will only going to get worse as Halloween approaches. (If past precedent is any indication, crowds will be a problem throughout most Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party dates, as well.) Whether the “too crowded” line has been crossed for you, personally, depends largely upon your priorities and where you’ll spend your time in Magic Kingdom during the Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party.
The situation on Main Street is bad, and Walt Disney World definitely needs to more proactively address this. The ride overlays are fun, but they are not achieving the intended goal of effectively redistributing crowds throughout Magic Kingdom. Really, the only solutions are capping the attendance at a significantly lower number, or adding something compelling deeper in the park.
Otherwise, Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party is going to go from “tougher to recommend” to “not recommended.” That’d be really unfortunate, as it’s an event with great entertainment that used to be an unquestionably fun time and something we recommended without equivocation to all Walt Disney World guests.
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Your Thoughts
Have you attended Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party in the last two years? If so, what was your experience with crowds? How did you feel they compared to 3 or more years ago? Will you attend MNSSHP again despite the crowds? Would you recommend it to others? Do you agree or disagree with our assessment? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
Way oversold. Way over priced. Way overcrowded. I’ve done dozens of premium Disney events, including previous versions of this one, but this gives very little bang for the buck since Disney wants to cram as many guests into the park as they can.
As a long time Disney Nana, I used to love going to Disney World. Sadly, our family’s last trip in August, 2019 was more than disappointing. Since this post is about MNSSHP, I will just address that. IT WAS WAY TOO CROWDED! I was always told that only a certain amount of tickets were sold so we were so excited to go! But we were not able to see half of what we planned. My children, grandchildren and I were all very sad and frustrated. We will never do it again.
We attended MNSSHP back in October 2013 (around the 20th, can’t fully remember the day) and it was AMAZING! Well worth it. The special shows and treats were well worth it. So much fun to be able to dress up. My husband and I were asked a few times to take pictures with kids because our costumes were good. Last December 6 we attended MVMCP for our 10th anniversary and it was AWFUL! Far too many people. Go with the expectation of high crowds and hopefully be pleasantly surprised. It is frustrating that you spend extra to attend and I struggled to find the differences between the Christmas party and normal MK holiday entertainment. I love Disney I am going for my 40th birthday in November this year and did NOT buy a MVMCP tickets, I struggled with the decision but in the end my experience last year was enough to say no. It’s a shame looking at 2013 vs 2018. It SHOULD be a special ticketed event and capped lower. Why am I attending when everyone else is attending too? I know the cap is much lower than the park cap BUT come on, extra cost should equal extra special.
My son was a cast member last year and encouraged us to go to the Halloween party as it was “the best” in his opinion. We took a quick trip to Orlando to spend one day in Hollywood Studios and another night at the party on October 1st. A sold out night, it was a nightmare. Long lines all night until after the fireworks, just too many people! The parade was my favorite part of the evening; trying to find a place for the fireworks was a bear. I think if it hadn’t been so crowded we’d feel like we got our money’s worth, but we spent a lot of time doing nothing, we had fast passes at 4:00 for Haunted Mansion and Jungle Cruise otherwise we would have missed those too. I don’t know if I’d attend again, if we did we’d be a lot more careful in what date we chose, I believe the person who commented it was the last day before the price increase hit it right on the head plus it was a four day weekend for New York schools which we didn’t know. HS was equally a madhouse, we did the early morning hours and everything was packed, left at 1:00 then returned after dinner. Lines were finally short once Fantasmic was on. Not the best Disney trip overall.
Thank you for this great article and addressing what I have been thinking the past 2 weeks. We went to the party 9/29 and it was VERY crowded. Our focus is on the parade and fireworks and we saw both with effort. Was really questioning the value. We went again on Thursday Oct 3 and it was amazing!! Like the parties of old. Watched both parades without within, went to the hub for fireworks 10 min before. It restored my faith in the party. Go but only on a Tuesday or Thursday!!
Tuesday Oct. 1st was a sold out nightmare. I suspect that the last few parties in September and Oct 1 were sold out because those were the last days before the first big price jump. So maybe avoid the last days of the discounted price as well.
I was at the MNSSHP on October 8 also. We had received free tickets to the event because we had to evacuate Pirates last December. When I picked up our tickets, the cast member told me that parties are like the park on a light day with no more than 30 minute wait time on the rides. We didn’t find this to be true and it was very crowded. It surprised me how money people that were there. I have very little room to complain because these were compensation tickets, and I and very thankful to have them. My observation from the past is that perhaps the party pass has increased the crowds. I am spoiled from the experiences in my past and will hold those memories dear because the party isn’t what it used to be because of the large crowd. That said, kudos to the cast members and performers. They were spot on!
Four of us attended-two kids, ages 5 and 10, two adults on 9/29/19. Event was sold out.
The worst experience @ WDW in 47 years !!!
The crowd to enter was mind blowing, cast members were (and I ‘ve never lost my temper before) were overwhelmed and undertrained to answer basic logistics questions.
When we arrived at 4p, the crowd was so large and moving so slowly as costume were being checked that we missed our allowable fast passes for 4:15-5:15 slot for Buzz. We had no choice but to run through the park to catch the
5:30-6:00 split slots for Space and Dumbo. Needless to say, our 5 year old was distraught about missing Buzz ride, not a great start to the evening.
At 6:00 the wait lines for rides were 11/10!
We had expected to eat something other than treat candy, but we greatly disappointed by the lack of any real food available.
Finally we moved though the juggernaut crowds for treats, split up one adult/ one child and worked the back of the park rides separately.
Upside: By 10p the rides, except for 60min wait time at Haunted Mansion were virtually empty!
We were able to ride rides multiple times.
Double down sides: no real food available, and we were unable to see shows and parades.
We left at 11:30p with mixed feelings.
ANOTHER HUGE MESS- THE MK PARKING LOT TREK through the construction area IS CHAOS!!
We went to Mickey’s Halloween party last month (Sept 2019) on a sold out night and it was awful! Crowds were horrible, and you had to wait in long lines just for Trick or Treat candy! Crazy!! We went to maybe 2/3 places then just stopped. Figured I could buy candy easier back at the hotel gift shop! Trying to meet the characters was a nightmare. We did manage to meet Minnie and Donald near the end of the night, but was disappointed not seeing Mickey. In fairness, I DID kinda enjoy the Trick or Treating (at 59, it’d been a long time since I’d done it!), meeting at least 2 characters was nice, the fireworks were amazing and the stage show was cute. But would I’d go again? No. Not with those crowds.
We attended the party on 9/24 and it was great. We were able to ride almost all the rides with little to no waits and got a ton of candy trick or treating. The lines for the characters were kind of high so we skipped those but we were able to see the fireworks off main Street and catch the 2nd parade with no issues. I would definitely do it again, but stay away from the weekends when it will be more crowded.
No one is making me feel too optimistic about the upcoming Christmas parties! We are attending the Thursday party the week before Thanksgiving, and I’m really hoping to just be able to get some party snacks, see the fireworks, and at least ride the “holiday” overlay rides. I opted to buy a Tony’s party ticket for a decent spot of the parade without wasting party time to secure a spot. It would be nice if this also helped secure a spot for fireworks. lol.
We were first timers for MNSSHP, and we were there on a sold out night and had the OPPOSITE experience of what you described-Tomorrow Land and Fantasy Land were SLAMMED (it felt like Spring Break crowds), and waits were pretty long for the first few hours (except for things like Little Mermaid), but the fireworks felt less crowded than HEE usually does. We arrived 25 min early hand had no trouble getting great spots and never felt “boxed in” like you do when the hub fills up. After the fireworks, everything seemed calmer.
We had a good time, but it was definitely more crowded than expected.
Last time we went was October 2016 and I thought it was a bit crowded then. Already have tickets for end of the month….so I will temper my expectations. Just there for entertainment, maybe 1 or 2 rides. I won’t go for those with ride overlays. Thanks for heads up though Tom. We are just 2 adults going, so don’t have to worry about littles. Also staying at BLT, so if it is unbearable, I will walk “home” and watch the fireworks from there
What are rife overlays?
Ride overlays. It’s a typo.
We were there on Oct 6. I was shocked at the crowds arriving. We mainly focused on rides and found wait times to be inflated and manageable. The longest we waited was around 20 for 7DMT and it was posted at 35. We rode everything we wanted – splash and mine train twice. Went to the hub for fireworks, and it was a madhouse. I wonder if Disney now feels like if you want the low crowds element, do an After Hours event. I don’t think “low crowds” should even be in the conversation anymore for trying to decide on the Halloween party.
My family and I attended on Sunday, October 6, and I’m sad to say we did not find it worth the extra money because of the crowds. We went in 2017 and had a blast, but we couldn’t get near as much accomplished because there were just too many people. It felt like any other day at Disney, which was very disappointing. Even the lines for rides didn’t seem significantly shorter on many rides. I don’t think it is worth the money anymore unless they cap the crowd at a smaller number.
Our family was there in September 2019. Let me just say we will not pay that much again to do Mikeys Not So Scary Halloween. The crowd was awful! There was mothers fighting with other mothers for space, older gentleman got knocked down by people due to crowding and pushing. All this to rush to get as close to front as possible. We stayed more to back in the road and what we witnessed by people was unmagical! It really was not worth the extra money. It was grandkids first experience and they could not even get through lines for candy without being shoved. We bought tickets thinking it was a less limited amount aloud into park,but I think it tripled in capacity! C’mon Disney be reasonable! Set the amount lower or give only to those staying on property resorts. We did the whole fall theme due to never seeing the fall decor. Then we decided the kids would like to do the MNSSH, well not no more. It was to crowded and the people were to rude. I would have expected it from kids but adults!? Nope, it was a waste of our money! Never again. We did not even get to see half of what they advertise for extras due to crowds,pushing,tempers. It was the worse experience I have ever had at Disney and we are hard-die Disney nerds. We usually go every year or every other. This was such a big disappointment, but we learned from our mistake.
The rides were crowded as well. I’m not waiting 45-60 minutes for any version of Space Mountain when I could have ridden it an hour before with a fast pass. If Disney wants these crowded events to become the new normal, they should offer Fast Passes for the most desired rides and character meets so that people aren’t wasting the whole party in line. At least for me, I would feel like I was getting some ‘extra’ value of of these up-charged events.
We attended Sept. 29th and Oct 1st, first time party goers. Both ended up being sold out. It was a nightmare. We had priority to ride rides and see parade/fireworks. All were too crowded, 11/10 as you say. I’m used to getting to parks at rope drop, riding rides with low wait times, following a TP. The crowds were too much for me to justify paying for more than once to see the special Halloween events (which I loved). If it was less crowded I would definitely go back. We made a special trip just for the parties and I was let down.
My family and I attended in Seotember 2017. Was fantastic and we enjoyed all the entertainment etc. Did everything and were able to leave a little early. Crowds were not an issue. I will point out that we attended the night after the parked reopened after Hurricane Irma hit.
My daughters just returned from Disneyland where they attended MNSSHP there. They loved it and did the trails. Had a great time.
We attended September 20th with our 14 month old granddaughter. Since we didn’t attend the entire day, we ended up rushing around from 4:00-6:00 trying to get everything in that we wanted to do before the attractions closed. Then had an early dinner because reservations for dinners cut off early too. We had basically the same experience as noted above: the attractions in the back of the park were less crowded, but if you wanted to go through the hub or Main Street forget it. Walking through the Emporium buying things was less crowded. Forget meeting characters, too. 45 minutes in a line (at least) just wasn’t on my list of things to do
Attended October 10th party, and just attended Oogie Boogie Bash in California Adventure in September. I will say, I about completely lost it on 2 or 3 cast members… Party starts at 7pm, and restaurants close at 8pm. What?!? We got to the park at 4pm, planned to eat halfway through, and many of the fast dining options were closed as we walked from restaurant to restaurant. We were told that Pecos Bill’s and Cosmic Ray’s were our best (read ONLY) options. The lines were bad for things people want to do… we only accomplished 2/3 of what one would conservitively expect to do, and worried we would lose our 7 year old in the crazy main street and hub crowds. Having the railroad down is bad… limit attendance until you have it running again. Oogie Boogie in California had a few crazy lines, but had no issue showing up to the show last minute with great views. Parade was better in FL, and more rides worth riding at Magic Kingdom. The lines and wait at Pecos Bill’s were bad. If more eating options were available, perhaps the congestion wouldn’t be as bad throughout the park. Felt to me like Disneyworld was 20-25% over ideal party capacity, and Disneyland was 10-15% over ideal party capacity. Waits of 1 hour+ are not good for a 5 hour party… that you pay $100+ for. No single line should exceed 45 minutes, and they should strive to keep lines for demand rides and characters at 30 minutes or less… adjust # of tickets to make it happen, or add 2 to 3 more really exciting overlays… I would love to see an overlay of “It’s a Small World”… seems impossible, but it’s Disney! Nothing is impossible! Even just blacklights, edit the classic song to spooky tune (same lyrics or new verses)… would help reduce demand on other events and rides. Also, it would be great if they added large tiered grass viewing areas for fireworks shows and parade. I think you add them in areas where the train goes, and perhaps they are further away, but have elevation and site lines and are designed to enjoy while sitting down (think Red Rocks venue in CO). It’s so border line if it is worth it this year…WAY less organized in FL than California… poor signage, bad cast member communication when arriving and leaving with all the construction leaving cast members, and therefore guests, confused.
We attended the Halloween party on September 24. We got our band right on 4 and headed straight to Jack and Sally but the line was already over 2.5 hours. We watched the parade, rode the tea cups, met Stitch, and did some trick or treating but other than that we just rode rides and hung out at the dance party because everything else was so packed, it was too stressful to try and drag the kids through the crowds.
We still had fun but we did go in with low expectations after reading how crowded the parties had become.
In hindsight I would have done 2 days less at the parks but done 2 parties as I’d really have loved to have done more party specific stuff but couldn’t justify the cost on top of the tickets we’d already paid for, but we got lots of rides in so could have done less days in park.
I was there with my wife and three kids on the 24th as well. Our first party in 5 years and it will be our last. Completely different experience than our first time. Current crowds are ridiculous. Terrible how much Disney oversells these parties. On paper the offerings are fantastic. But in practice you can’t enjoy but a fraction of them in the allotted party time. We used regular park tickets to get in a little early, but the crowds entering via party tickets at the other gates looked to be a long, hot experience.
We made the most of it and still enjoyed ourselves. But we found ourselves ducking out at 11 despite being prepared to go to (past) midnight (and our kids weren’t even overly tired). There’s a delicate balance that Disney plays between profit and customer experience. Currently it’s tilted a bit too far towards profit. If it gets recalibrated towards experience we’ll be back. Until then we’re done.
We attended on the 3rd October and were pleasantly surprised with the crowds (much better than a normal evening in the park), in fact it was the most fun we have had at Disney. This was our first party, and we used your guides to plan our evening. We spent the whole day at magic kingdom, got to early for EMH, so enjoyed the rides during the day. At 4.15 we joined the queue for jack and sally, saw them by 5, then headed over to moana, finished by 6.00, then queued for the dwarfs, done before 7. Then lotso bear, and rode buzz Lightyear. Then saw the Sandersons show (whilst getting our parade spot), saw the parade and fireworks. Did some trick and treating, rode pirates, thunder mountain and left before 11, as knackered after a 17 and a half hour day! Had the best night, and would definitely do it again! Thanks for all your useful tips! There was nothing that we missed that we wanted to do 🙂 and left with the best song stuck in our head for the rest of the holiday ‘it’s really not so scary!’
Man that makes me wish we had gone on Oct 3rd. We picked Oct 1st because everyone says Tuesday parties are less crowded. I’m wondering if that’s changing. Or maybe because the 1st was the last cheaper party. Or what.
The soulition is to Cut the attendance cap in HALF, and let Guests paying the upcharge move freely into the PRIME locations such as the Hub and Main Street. But NO! Money Grubing Will Continue To Rull The Day!
I and my family have no further planes to attend !
Totally agree. A hard ticketed event should not feel like a CL 11!!!! Great parade and fireworks, but I’m done unless they fix it!