Best Early Entry Morning at Magic Kingdom Plan and Genie+ Lightning Lane Comparison
Early Entry at Magic Kingdom is a good way for on-site guests of Walt Disney World hotels to get a head-start, accomplishing a few attractions with low waits. This photo report offers morning strategy on a 9/10 crowd level day, best options for accomplishing the most during the Extra Magic Hours replacement, plus how this compares to using Genie+ and Lightning Lanes to skip lines. (Updated April 16, 2023.)
We’ve done Early Entry at Magic Kingdom about a dozen times since the perk debuted. Over the course of those experiences, we’ve learned a lot about what works and doesn’t work. In so doing, we’ve determined that this is more or less the perfect way to approach Early Entry at Magic Kingdom (and updated it accordingly for 2023). With that in mind, there are a few things you need to know before doing Early Entry at Magic Kingdom.
First, Park Hours at Magic Kingdom can vary. Magic Kingdom mostly opens at 9 am, with 8 am being common only during the “Party Season” from August through December plus the scattering of After Hours dates. Outside of that, Magic Kingdom usually opens at 9 am on even the busiest days of the year, unfortunately. If you somehow have the option of doing Magic Kingdom on an 8 am opening day, you absolutely should–it’s a huge advantage!
We’ve covered this repeatedly elsewhere, so we’re not going to belabor the point. Suffice to say, the 7:30 am Early Entry at Magic Kingdom is a game changer (see that link for strategy), and we highly recommend it on Halloween or Christmas Party dates. Very few guests have the desire and determination to be out their hotel room door by 6:30 am, which is pretty much what’s necessary to arrive at Magic Kingdom in time for the start of Early Entry.
Another thing you need to know, is that the ideal approach to Early Entry at Magic Kingdom does NOT include Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT) on days when the park opens at 9 am. The reasons for that are discussed deeper in this post, and we’d strongly encourage you to read that advice and heed our warnings. If you’re dead set on doing the SDMT Shuffle, refer to our Magic Kingdom Early Entry Strategy Starting at Seven Dwarfs Mine Train instead of this.
Finally, you’ll want to be up in time to join the TRON Lightcycle Run virtual queue no matter what. This new roller coaster is incredibly popular, and has been running out of boarding groups in seconds (literally) since it opened. See our Strategy Guide for the TRON Lightcycle Run Virtual Queue for tips & tricks to improve your chances of success. It isn’t as easy or straightforward as you might think!
On this day at MK, the park opened to the general public at 9 am, meaning Early Entry began at 8:30 am. We were out the door of our room at Art of Animation by 7:15 am, which is necessary due to the long commute and unpredictability of transportation. The bus to Magic Kingdom picked us up at 7:29 am and dropped us off at 7:49 am. We breezed through bag check and the turnstiles in minutes, and were on Main Street by 7:54 am.
Getting to the parks for Early Entry is surprisingly easy. Bus transportation starts running early, and most guests simply are not up and out the door by 7:30 am. Monorails and boats are departing every few minutes, and usually are not full at this hour. We’ve found it to be a far more pleasant transportation experience than leaving an hour or two later. Our bus from Art of Animation was about one-quarter full, whereas by 8 or 9 am they’d be completely packed.
Our normal recommendation is to arrive at least 30 minutes before the start of Early Entry, which is definitely good enough for Magic Kingdom. You’ll want to arrive earlier if your plan is to do Seven Dwarfs Mine Train–but that really should not be your plan. As we’ll cover here, there are better options for that Fantasyland headliner.
Upon reaching the end of Main Street, you’ll see Cast Members with signs direction guests to the right for Early Theme Park Entry. This works exactly the same as morning Extra Magic Hours, if you remember those.
On-site guests head to the right of the East Plaza Garden. There’s a row of Cast Members stationed here to scan MagicBands, MagicMobile, resort room keys, or whatever identification you might have if staying at one of the participating third party hotels.
You can’t access Tomorrowland or Fantasyland until you’ve entered through here. Once you’ve done that, you’re good to go for the morning–unlike Extended Evening Hours, MagicBands or room keys are not scanned at each individual attraction.
From there, you proceed on to either the Tomorrowland Bridge or Fantasyland Bridge.
The crowd is always smaller for Tomorrowland. There’s more breathing room here and it’s definitely the more laid back option. By contrast, the Fantasyland Bridge is packed with people. Both are in direct sunlight, which can be a brutal way to start the day if you’re stuck in one spot for ~15 to 30 minutes.
The mood is also more tense on the Fantasyland side. Guests are revving up their double-wide strollers, preparing to do some serious damage to the ankles of anyone walking too gingerly. The sprint to Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is a high stakes, eat-or-be-eaten game.
Not really, but the atmosphere does feel tense before the crowd starts moving. Once it does, it’s more like a slow trudge in a sea of humanity. No one is doing anything even resembling running. As intimated above, we call it the “SDMT Shuffle.” Ironic that this is for Fantasyland, as it’s a bit nightmarish.
With that said, we were pleasantly surprised by the Fantasyland crowd on this particular morning.
When we finally made our way over here at 8:15 am, the sea of humanity hadn’t yet flowed back to the bridge. This is when arrivals accelerate for Early Entry, with the crowd really filling in by 8:20 am. As always, the overwhelming majority are planning to do Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.
I’ll repeat what I always say: skip the SDMT Shuffle. It’s uncomfortable and unpleasant, and does not set the right tone for a good day in Magic Kingdom. Wait until evening to do Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, pay for an Individual Lightning Lane, or even do it during the middle of the day when everything has a long wait. Anything but first thing.
There is no scenario where you’re coming out ahead doing Seven Dwarfs Mine Train during Early Entry. Even if you’re at the front of the pack, you had to get up and arrive to Magic Kingdom super-early to “accomplish” that. Given that, the opportunity cost of doing Seven Dwarfs Mine Train instead of short waits elsewhere, and the risk of the kiddie coaster having the dreaded delayed opening…it’s just not worth it.
We’ve done Early Theme Park Entry and/or rope drop dozens of times at Magic Kingdom in the last two years and have experienced the full spectrum of possible outcomes. You won’t convince me Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is the best way to start the day.
Anyway, Sarah and I took a divide and conquer approach to Early Entry at Magic Kingdom. The plan was for her to stick to our strategy, while I assessed real time crowd patterns and actual wait times (which can differ dramatically from posted times) to come up with new/better plans.
She started at Peter Pan’s Flight, entering its line at 8:33 am. She was on Peter Pan’s Flight by 8:37 am, with a total wait time of ~5 minutes versus a posted wait time of 5 minutes. Peter Pan’s Flight averaged a 72 minute wait throughout the day at Magic Kingdom. This is a totally normal wait time for PPF during Early Entry, even on a busy day. It gets much worse about ~10 minutes later, as other guests start bailing on Seven Dwarfs Mine Train due to the higher wait time and long line.
Meanwhile, I started in Tomorrowland. This is a similar story to Fantasyland, with the overwhelming majority heading to Space Mountain.
Although this line looks lengthy, that’s because it’s stacked outside the queue, with the inside line not yet having opened. In actuality, because there’s no Lightning Lane or anything else, it’s about a 10 minute wait. Not bad by any means, but Space Mountain only averaged a 51 minute wait this day–20 fewer minutes than Peter Pan’s Flight.
With virtually everyone heading to Space Mountain, the rest of Tomorrowland is blissfully uncrowded.
Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin was a walk-on, as were Tomorrowland Speedway, Astro Orbiter, and the Tomorrowland Transit Authority PeopleMover. While 30 minutes isn’t much, you could come close to knocking out all of Tomorrowland during that time. Here’s the best approach for optimal time-savings if you start in Tomorrowland:
- Space Mountain
- Astro Orbiter
- Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
Whether you keep going in Tomorrowland after that or cross through the Central Plaza to Adventureland or Frontierland is up to you. We’d recommend crossing the park and knocking out headliners in those lands, but if you want to minimize walking, that’s fine.
Sarah did the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and “it’s a small world” after finishing up Peter Pan’s Flight. Later in the day, the average wait time for each of these attractions would be 40 minutes. Here’s the optimal approach for Fantasyland during Early Entry at Magic Kingdom:
- Peter Pan’s Flight
- The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
- “it’s a small world”
If you’ll be following this strategy, the better approach is Pooh first, even though it involves a little backtracking. The reason for this is that people inevitably bail on Seven Dwarfs Mine Train once the posted wait time shoots up and they realize their mistake–and this is their closest alternative. You’ll be heading back towards “it’s a small world” for proper park opening, anyway.
Again, you could stick in Fantasyland for regular rope drop if you want to minimize walking, as there are a number of moderate-priority attractions that you can knock out with minimal waits. This is especially true if you’re big into character meet & greets, with some of these opening at 9 am and others at 10 am.
We don’t mind extra steps, and prefer the objectively better approach of rope dropping Adventureland and Frontierland.
We each finished up our top 3 rides for Early Entry just as that ended, and were ready to head to the other side of the park. Depending upon your luck and speed, you may only be able to do your top 2 attractions during Early Entry by following this plan. Still, that’s better than starting with Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, where you will only get your #1 attraction and maybe not even finish in time for regular rope drop.
Jungle Cruise continues to command long waits, with more an increasing number of guests heading towards Adventureland. It’s currently the #4 wait of 2023 at Magic Kingdom, with an average posted standby time of almost 70 minutes.
Between that high number and the fact that Frontierland is down a headliner while Splash Mountain is reimagined into Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, thereby pushing a disproportionate number of guests to Big Thunder, starting in Adventureland is the obvious option.
If you’re towards the front of the rope drop pack and really don’t mind criss-crossing the park, it’s not a terrible idea to do Big Thunder Mountain Railroad first since it’s shorter.
In that scenario, your actual wait will be about 5 minutes, which is how long it takes to walk through the queue–the line will never stop moving. On this particular day, we were not at the front of the pack, and opted to do BTMRR later.
Pirates of the Caribbean was next up–another 20 minute posted wait time.
This was a walk-on. The added “bonus” here was that the boats weren’t being filled at this early hour, decreasing the likelihood of getting wet on the ride.
I didn’t think to take a photo, but the line for Jungle Cruise was already prohibitively long. That was fully expected by this point, but still worth mentioning. Not that long ago, this would’ve been the ideal time to do Jungle Cruise, but that has not been the case for a while.
Instead, we met Aladdin in Adventureland. No wait.
Waits only continued to build from there, with rope drop quickly transitioning to normal crowds. The 10 am to 11 am hour is a good time to knock out things like meet & greets and minor attractions that can have long waits later, like the TTA PeopleMover (what we did after trying unsuccessfully to find more roaming characters) or Astro Orbiter.
All told, here’s what Sarah accomplished between 8:30 am and ~10:30 am via Early Entry and rope drop at Magic Kingdom:
- Peter Pan’s Flight
- The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
- “it’s a small world”
- Jungle Cruise
- Pirates of the Caribbean
- Aladdin Meet & Greet
- TTA PeopleMover
Here’s what I accomplished by starting in Tomorrowland for Early Entry at Magic Kingdom:
- Space Mountain
- Astro Orbiter
- Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
- Jungle Cruise
- Pirates of the Caribbean
- Aladdin Meet & Greet
- TTA PeopleMover
For those keeping score at home, the time-savings was about 8 minutes better (going by posted wait times, which are often inaccurate) for Sarah by starting in Fantasyland. With that said, I prefer doing Tomorrowland first, as it’s significantly more laid back.
Contrast this with the last time I used Genie+ at Magic Kingdom, with a laid-back approach that did not entail getting up this early:
- Peter Pan’s Flight
- Jungle Cruise
- Space Mountain
- Haunted Mansion
- Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin
- Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
- The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Obviously, this is not an apples to apples comparison. For one thing, we’re comparing a couple of hours in the morning to the entire day using a paid line-skipping service. For another, my results with Genie+ look worse than reality because there were several attractions with shorter waits later in the day that didn’t require using Lightning Lanes for a short wait.
The big benefits Genie+ gave over Early Entry and the first hour of the day at MK were not having to wait in line for Jungle Cruise, Space Mountain, or Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin. Even then, I probably could’ve knocked out the Tomorrowland duo later in the evening with minimal wait. That really just leaves Jungle Cruise.
From that, you might reach the conclusion that Genie+ is not necessary at Magic Kingdom. Knocking out so much in the first couple hours sets you up for a very productive day–one where you can afford a couple lengthy standby lines. That’s definitely true and I think it’s entirely possible to skip Genie+ with Early Entry and/or Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom.
However, it’s impossible for me to say which is objectively superior strategy for Magic Kingdom. While I prefer alternative approaches at the other three parks, I still advocate for buying Genie+ once in Magic Kingdom. Consider this the “both…and” option. There’s simply so much to do and Genie+ works better in Magic Kingdom than any other park. Lightning Lanes make the day easier, and Genie+ is worth the cost if you want to re-ride anything, or simply have a more relaxed day. That’s not true in the other 3 parks, but it is at Magic Kingdom.
Buying Genie+ also enables you to have a more laid back start to Early Entry at Magic Kingdom. The reason we have done rope drop and Early Entry so many times is because it’s a great time of day in the park.
I love the golden light glistening on the spotless handrails and reflecting on the freshly-watered flowers, all while the park is relatively quiet and the weather is more pleasant than it’ll be later in the day.
Whenever we do these mornings in Magic Kingdom, a good portion of my time is devoted to photographing the Central Plaza and Main Street.
We keep going back not because I need to test new touring strategies (the best approaches are relatively well-established at this point), but because I’ve been very unlikely with sunrises and morning clouds. I’m hoping to get good conditions with the 50th Anniversary decorations up.
Attractions are important and waiting in short lines is a great way to start a day at Magic Kingdom. That should go without saying–especially given the wealth of strategy posts on this site.
However, there’s something to be said for simply being there. Enjoying that morning light and beauty of a polished park waking up for the morning is truly special–even magical. While racing around taking morning photos, I sometimes stop to snap family photos for other guests who are opting to enjoy the ambiance instead of being at the front of the pack for Seven Dwarfs Mine Train or whatever. I am firmly convinced the memories and photos they’ll have from a peaceful morning in Magic Kingdom are far superior to saving ~30 minutes in line.
Suffice to say, don’t put too much pressure on riding X or Y in a specific order as make-or-break to your vacation experience. (Spreadsheet planning is a fool’s errand.) Quite often, it’s the “little” things that form the indelible memories more so than the headliner attractions you’re hyping up in your head. Planning and savvy strategy are important, but so too are spontaneity and these special moments. While Genie+ can seem like the antithesis of spontaneity–and often is at the other 3 parks–it also lowers the stakes at Magic Kingdom, and facilitates a more relaxed day.
Ultimately, we highly recommend taking advantage of Early Entry at Magic Kingdom. It’s always more crowded than the other three parks due to the later starting time (and comparative popularity of Magic Kingdom), but fortunately, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and Space Mountain soak up the vast majority of those crowds.
If you follow savvy strategy and pair that with traditional rope drop for Frontierland or Adventureland, you can have a solid start to your morning at Magic Kingdom. Even with high crowd levels, it is possible to accomplish a lot and avoid higher wait times later in the day if you simply start early, pace yourself, and stay late.
What you encounter might appear intimidating at first, but just remember: most of those lines aren’t getting any shorter later in the day. Whatever you’re seeing at 8:45 am, triple it and that’ll be the wait time in 2 hours (with the exception of Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, which often peaks at 9 am and falls by 10 am). If you want additional strategy for the starting your day at the other three parks, check out our Guide to Early Theme Park Entry at Walt Disney World.
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YOUR THOUGHTS
Thoughts on Early Entry at Magic Kingdom? Have you experienced this 30 minute jumpstart to the day at Magic Kingdom? What’s your preferred approach to Early Entry and traditional park opening/rope drop at Magic Kingdom? How would you have done things differently? Any other feedback on arriving early to the Walt Disney World theme parks? Agree or disagree with our advice or approach? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
We are not early-riser vacationers but one of my happiest memories from the Magic Kingdom is from an early morning. My son agreed to get up and join me for pre-opening breakfast at the Crystal Palace. He was about 10. We rode the bus over, saw the park open, and had so much fun wandering around Main Street when hardly anyone was there. We got a Photopass pic taken on Main Street and I treasure it — he is grown and married now. Breakfast was wonderful and I remember we could tell when the park officially opened because from the restaurant we could see a MASSIVE wave of people heading in toward Adventureland. Early mornings AND late nights are special in all the parks!
The biggest problem with spreadsheets is that those who love them will not even entertain the idea that some of us don’t 😛
In all honestly while spreadsheets are not for me, I also don’t think there is a huge difference between having one versus having a touring strategy like the ones on this site; the times just aren’t as specific. And I *ALSO* think the overall point about allowing for spontaneity on vacation is something that everyone would benefit from because I also find the unplanned stuff tends to be the most memorable. It’s all about balance, and current day WDW is definitely herding people towards the spreadsheet end of the spectrum.
Are all rides open at early entry or only a certain few? I guess I’m confused between the difference of early entry and ‘rope drop’. Thank you!
Not all rides are open for early entry, but all the popular rides are Here’s the list: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/guest-services/early-entry/
Early entry is for participating resort guests only (see list above). They give those resort guests access to the parks 30 minutes prior to regular park opening.
Rope drop used to have a different meaning. In the past, only one park would have Extra Magic Hours in the morning. Any guest (day, AP, resort) could line up for rope drop at the 3 other parks that did not have EMH and be first in line. Only resort guests at the park with EMH.
Now, every park opens 30 minutes prior to posted times for those participating resort guests only listed above. Rope drop has thus been redefined for resort guests only. For eg., if MK is scheduled to open at 9am, resort guest early hour access begins at 8:30am but a lot of resort guests will begin lining up for “rope drop” at 8am to be in front of the early crowd.
I’m baffled about “Jungle Cruise”. Could it be a self fulfilling prophecy?
It enjoyed a bit of a boost after the recent changes but then, since it has been the hottest thing, people continue to prioritize it because it has a long queue so they have to do it early to avoid a long queue, hence waiting in a long queue.
Apologies to the jungle lovers, but I don’t think it’s an attraction worth spending more than 20 minutes in line for. It certainly is not superior to Pirates.
Besides the Jungle Cruise boats taking much longer to board than Pirates’ ships, there’s also hidden switchback lanes at the former. While I can tell you how long the line is out the front of PotC, there’s simply no way to tell at JC without walking around the building and eyeballing the line.
(It might also be a function of being the first attraction guests going left see after they duck the spitting camel, but I would need to see some paper FastPass era figures to check that out.)
I agree that JC isn’t really worth a super-long wait, but we will have to agree to disagree WRT its superiority vs. Pirates. 😉 I have never understood all the fascination with that ride.
Fantastic post, Tom! Great info and a great reminder to also slow down and just enjoy being there. Maybe the best way to do MK is over two days… one day for rides and another to just relax! Anyway, thanks again!
Thanks for this post, Tom. Useful info for my September trip. Very reminiscent of Josh’s touring posts I would read religiously before each trip. ❤️
I thought that too, Jill. especially when Tom listed what he’d accomplished that day as Josh used to. RIP Josh. Total legend. Cannot believe I miss someone I have never met. Great work as Tom. Thanks for taking the pain so we don’t have to.
It’s hard to believe that Josh is gone. It keeps hitting me in phases, most recently for the start of Food & Wine. There are reminders of him all over the parks, which is simultaneously tough and a great way of keeping his memory alive. In case you missed it, TouringPlans hosted a great tribute to him: https://touringplans.com/blog/s6-easywdw/
We mostly did festivals, meals, and events together, but we also did rope drop and other touring from time to time. Josh would always push to do things that I didn’t want to do–not because he did, but because he knew I wanted to do them less than he did. It always ended up being amusing, as he’d have a droll joke or clever commentary. Pretty sure I’ve done Enchanted Tales with Belle and Alien Swirling Saucers more times with him than with Sarah.
I did see that article Tom and I had a tear in my eye! Our kids still say “Dad? What does your mate, Josh say?” The cartoon of you all was hilarious! And yes – the Italy booth!!!
Just got back from our trip (stayed at the Poly) 19th-26th, we did character Breakfast every day early at various places before park openings, even though the Genie + was hard at first we got used to how to strategize and navigate it.
Your right, you can get a lot done before using your first lightning lane pass, actually that whole system is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of! It’s very stressful trying to manage that genie all day, we even had someone with a DAS pass to fill in a couple rides before the next LL.
I can’t believe Disney won’t let you buy a fast Pass for the whole day like every other park in Florida does….no stress at all …. (If you want to pay for it) what’s another $100 a day when considering what we all pay to stay and play there anyway. Lol
Stand by line for Rise of the Resistance was 5 hours one day.
Still though….. can’t wait to get back,
Thanks for reminding me of the days past where spontaneity, counter-intuitive thinking, and taking pleasure in the moment were the norm at Disney for me. I am glad you presented a gentler side to visiting MK.
I’ll be happy to do something similar next month.
I agree . I miss those days of just not having plan out everything. True I always knew which was I was going but I still miss fast pass+ and not having to race to a side to get in. Just even the walk down main street was so much fun. I seems that everyone is following the standard head to the left first. But that no longer applies with Disney with all the changes. Good to know that SDMT should be done later. As much as I enjoy it, I think I will push to head to haunted mansion.
If you are an out of state visitor, you have to have a spreadsheet now. With Park Pass being required, we now have to book every detail of our entire trip as soon as we make our hotel reservation (except of course the one thing we want to, Fast Pass)
This has ruined it for resort guests. You have to book every single detail of your entire trip, spending a ton of money without knowing if you will even be able to get on the rides you want without waiting 2+ hours
Why would anyone do that?
We have rope dropped mine train several times over the years but after reading I think we may go for Big Thunder for our next trip.
On our recent (July 18-25) visit to WDW, we did Magic Kingdom on the 20th and 25th.
The 20th we utilized Early Enrry to knock out SDMT and Winnie the Pooh, heading over to it’s a Small World as the park was opening to off site guests. We also knocked out Haunted Mansion (5 minute wait) and Pirates of the Caribbean with minimal waits. In all, we did 8 rides/attractions by 11:45-12:00 before heading to the resort for our mid day break (no Genie+ or LL).
On the 25th my wife wanted to start with Peter Pan, so we knocked that and Small World out before heading to the Haunted Mansion. The Jungle Cruise was next, posted 60 minutes quickly jumping to 75, then 90 minutes….we were on in 32 minutes actual time. Followed that with Pirates, posted 45 on in about 23 minutes.
I completely agree with the SDMT assessment. That will never be our first go. Follow a similar route. We knock out Tomorrowland first. Then head over to the mountains
Hi! What about on a party day doing 7 Dwarfs Mine Train first? That is my plan for our trip this fall to the Magic Kingdom. We are going there only one day, and it falls on a Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween Party day. We are not attending the party. We will have Genie Plus, but we don’t want to spend money on Individual Lightning Lanes. My plan was to get there for early entry and go straight to this popular ride, since riding in late in the evening won’t be an option for us. I could see how getting up so early for being at the beginning of the pack isn’t wise strategy for someone who goes to Disney all the time and wants to ride 7DMT, but for my family who goes about once every 2 years, I feel like this is worth it to us.
Given the earlier opening time (7:30 am for EE), that you’ll have Genie+, and no end-of-night option, doing SDMT definitely makes more sense in that scenario.
Another possibility (especially if you don’t have Park Hopper tickets) is getting into line 1 minute before the park closes to day guests. Disregard the wait time–it’ll almost certainly be inflated by a huge amount to discourage regular guests from doing this.
Thank you. You mentioned 7:30am Early Entry. I thought it would be 8:30am. Also, for the Halloween Party, don’t they start letting those guests in mid afternoon? I thought if we tried to do 7DMT before the park closes to us, we would be competing with all the people that come early for the special ticketed event.
Thank you! We wanted to do Peter Pan early entry, bathrooms, and then go to Jungle Cruise. What is the fasted way to get from Peter Pan to Jungle Cruise as they transition from early entry to rope drop?
Google maps can route you. Fastest way is passing Small World and Columbia Harbour House to Frontier Land, then through the bathroom cut between Frontier and Adventure Land (4 minutes).
Thank you for this. I’m taking a crew of family next summer for their first time and as ACTUALLY FUN HOW DARE YOU STUGGEST OTHERWISE as spreadsheets are, I want them to be able to take in the Magic Kingdom on their first day. We’re staying off-site (my sister in law works for a hotel chain, so, worth the cost there) and I’m hoping Genie+ will enable us to be able to do that and also be able to do the most important rides to them.
Also, starting the day with a rollercoaster seems wrong. Build up to it, everyone! Small world, Pan, Poo, or Pirates first all the way.
I will not abandon my spreadsheets, as it enabled me to do everything (all rides, all non-ride attractions, a fireworks show, and 3 meals)* at MK on my first ever visit (TP had crowd level that day at a 7/10). However, having an anti-spreadsheet day is good too, which is what my other days were like. But I would say that my spreadsheet day informed those other days, as I was better aware of what crowd flow was like, how lines behaved, what to expect to accomplish at any given time. Things were either confirmed by the spreadsheet, or showed where the spreadsheet lacked as far as predictions went. So, I don’t know, how about start with a spreadsheet day and then use that base to have a looser, more spontaneous visit the next MK day?
Also, it’s hurtful to suggest that getting to the front of the pack is not an accomplishment. When I told my dad I was on the first train for 7DMT (enabled me to complete the mountain range in less than an hour), I guess I expected him to ask me what could’ve possibly made me think that he would be impressed with that, and was I ever actually going to do something that anyone cared about, and he swore sometimes that he wondered if I was even his, but I don’t need to hear the same from YOU, Tom. My effort mattered. But, yes, ok, I guess it makes more sense to get the kiddie train later.
*Also, I didn’t get to the Carrrrrousel because I had to make an ADR at Be Our Guest, and I watched the fireworks while on foot and on Barstormer and on foot again, respectively, but ALMOST everything in one day.
Perhaps if you followed the sage wisdom of a certain blog and were thus able to tell your dad you were on the LAST train of the day for 7DMT, that conversation would’ve gone very differently. It’s likely he would’ve showered you with praise, validation, and assorted accolades.
(This has not been my experience with my dad, who is similarly unimpressed about my late night SDMT feats, but I’m willing to bet you’d have better luck!)
a) there are some real hidden gems of hilarity in this post.
b) spreadsheet planning can be pretty alright, and can actually lead to a relaxing vacation.
I think where people go wrong is getting too granular, and not scheduling blocks for things like relaxing and spontaneity.
This also comes from former military (can’t relax unless it’s what I’m “supposed” to be doing. I love a big block on a daily plan that says, “freestyle”.
Everything we used to book prior to Covid is the same post Covid, except fast passes – flights, rooms, transportation, dining reservations
Only thing different post Covid is park passes. It’s actually more tedious now vs prior b you have to have park pass and you didn’t before
Not being able to pre book fast passes is just a penalty on the resort guests. They were able to do it prior and cannot any more.
the spreadsheet crowd used to be optional, now it’s mandatory for everyone
And resorts guests get penalized. And that’s why we haven’t been back
Fair points about spreadsheets. Perhaps it’s my preconceived notions/biases, but it really doesn’t seem like a thing used in moderation or to enhance spontaneity.
Then again, the same could be said about the dozens of posts/resources here, and yet, that is the end goal.
Love your “shuffle” comment when rope drops near Mine Train ! I always worry the shuffle will
become a stampede but luckily never has! Yes it definitely isn’t considered “fantasy!” And I’ve been one of those moms with a big stroller before so I enjoy your perspective of that…. Ha. Thanks for making me laugh.
SPREADSHEET DISNEY IS THE ONLY WAY TO DISNEY!!!!11!!!!1!
Sorry for yelling, but I like spreadsheets.
I enjoy doing laundry.
We all have our weird little things…I’m not here to judge! 😉
Ok, good. I wouldn’t want to have to unfollow you. 😉
Apt we sheets are required now where they used to be optional. You have to pkan where you will be every day now where you didn’t before.
Disney made it worse, not better .
Hey Tom, that first photo, was it taken right when you got to the park? Hoping to get a nice family photo with relatively few guests in the background next time we’re at the parks.
Thanks for the report. It’s very helpful, as always.
Yeah, and that lack of crowd there is pretty common around that time as most people are racing over the the bridges.
The only downside is that PhotoPass sometimes isn’t out that early, so you might have to find another guest or a blogger “researching” crowds/strategy to take your photo. 😉
Thanks for all the updates Tom. I have a sincere question and was hoping to get your advice. What is the best option for my family if we do wake up early? We don’t get up early on vacation so would not do early hours of wake up to buy/book Genie+. Are you just +#=% out of luck and have to wait in long lines all day?
To expend on my original post, we loved the pre planning that FP+ Offered us. Does pre planning have any shot of coming back? We are on hold for any WDW trips since the current touring strategies don’t for how we like to vacation.
I do know that WDW is actively looking at ways to improve Genie+ due to concerns with guest satisfaction scores, but I do not think pre-planning is on the table (as of right now) as a possible “fix.”
This might be worth checking out for a more laid-back approach: https://www.disneytouristblog.com/genie-plus-lightning-lanes-day-magic-kingdom-summer-2022/
For Magic Kingdom, you really don’t need to book anything right at 7 am. Heck, if you make your first LL at 8:59 am, you’re in almost as good of a position as someone who makes theirs at 7 am. That’s not true at DHS, but it is at MK.
We’ll have a post explaining more on that soon.
You can buy Genie+ at midnight, so if you’re late night owls, you can buy it before bed. When you do wake, make your first reservation then