Tom’s Day at Magic Kingdom Not Using Genie+
As an alternative to regular standby lines, Walt Disney World’s new Genie+ ride reservation system launched for select attractions in Magic Kingdom and the other parks. This walks you through my step-by-step day not using Genie+, from park opening until closing, with a look at everything I accomplished without spending any extra money. It’s a companion post to Sarah’s day with Genie+, which is coming soon.
My original intent was to use the free Genie feature to see how it performed head to head against the paid Genie+ service. This is already going to be a long post, so I’ll simply refer you to our Free Disney Genie Itinerary Creator Review for thorough thoughts on that and why that plan was abandoned before even arriving to Magic Kingdom.
Instead, I went with a mix of my instincts, observations, and experience in visiting Magic Kingdom hundreds of times. While the new Genie “stuff” will unquestionably and dramatically change the way people visit Walt Disney World, it’s not exactly reinventing the wheel. Anyway, let’s start our day at MK…
We arrived at Magic Kingdom shortly before rope drop. In addition to being standby only, I also didn’t have access to Early Theme Park Entry since we weren’t staying on-site. On top of that, it was a Disney After Hours Boo Bash date, meaning Magic Kingdom closed 90 minutes earlier than normal and there would be a mix-in of event guests before that.
Given all of that, it felt a bit like the deck was stacked against me. Obviously not ideal for a casual tourist, but oddly enough, exactly the circumstances I wanted for this day at Magic Kingdom. It provided for a more challenging field test, and would prove more satisfying once I “prevailed” in my quest to conquer most Magic Kingdom attractions, against all odds…
Also, what Sarah didn’t know–because I didn’t tell her–was that my goal was to “outperform” her day with Genie+ while only using the standby lines. I am fiercely competitive about certain things, almost all of which are totally pointless and non-adversarial scenarios. I’m also aware this is not exactly a popular personality trait, so I mostly keep it to myself.
In any case and for whatever reason, I developed this obstinate obsession with getting a lot done without Genie+ in Magic Kingdom on its launch day. Just to prove the haters wrong. (Or in this case, I guess, prove them right–since most people seem to hate Genie+.)
Anyway, even though Sarah and I were bitter rivals during this day in Magic Kingdom, we started by heading together towards Jungle Cruise. The intent was for her to do that via Genie+ and Lightning Lane, while I did it via standby to see how much extra time it cost me.
Naturally, the best laid plans of the Mouse and magical blue men often go awry: Jungle Cruise was down to start the day, throwing a monkey wrench into both of our plans.
I called a quick audible and headed deeper into the frontier, finding short posted wait times at both Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and Splash Mountain.
Even though Splash Mountain averages a much longer wait time throughout the day, I gambled on Big Thunder first since it has a shorter ride duration. I got in line for BTMRR at 9:10 with a posted 10 minute wait, and waited a total of 6 minutes.
It was on to Splash Mountain from there, which was still sporting a 5 minute posted wait time (vindicating my decision to do Big Thunder first). In actuality, it was a walk-on (it took 4 minutes) and was still dispatching empty logs at that point. I was already done with half of the Magic Kingdom Mountain Range by 9:39 am–not too shabby!
My next stop was Pirates of the Caribbean, which still only had a 10 minute posted wait. This might seem like an odd choice, but PotC is the #7 attraction in terms of Magic Kingdom wait times this month, and everything else but Haunted Mansion had already spiked. However, I saw that the line was already backed up to near the entrance and that coupled with Genie+ returns almost certainly meant a wait time significantly longer than 10 minutes. That plus the opportunity cost led me to bail.
Instead, I took a big gamble on Jungle Cruise, which was now up and had a posted 50 minute wait. I was almost certain this was both wildly inaccurate and likely to cause other guests to avoid it since so many attractions still had posted wait times under 20 minutes.
I was once again vindicated, as the posted wait time dropped to 30 minutes shortly after I jumped in line, and my actual wait was 23 minutes. Not bad for what is currently the #2 ride in Magic Kingdom after Seven Dwarfs Mine Train in terms of average daily waits.
The downside of doing two water rides back to back is that they inspire you to go…and I don’t mean deeper and deeper into the jungle. That pit stop cost me crucial minutes, and by the time I made my way over to Haunted Mansion, its line was already outside the marquee.
I debated doing it anyway, as Haunted Mansion is currently #5 in average Magic Kingdom wait times, but I figured it would get shorter later in the day, totally forgetting about Boo Bash and proximity Halloween. Rookie mistake. (In fairness, I live in Central Florida where Halloween has been in full swing for two months already. I’m ready for it to be over at this point.)
Instead, I raced over to Space Mountain, which had a 30 minute posted wait time at 10:34 am.
The line was not out the front entrance, which was a good sign. My fear was that this would spike later in the day as guests encountered long lines everywhere and became more inclined to buy their way out of crowds. My actual wait ended up being 22 minutes, which I will gladly take.
Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin was next up at 11:05, with a posted wait time of 20 minutes and an actual wait time of 13 minutes.
I’m a sucker for this attraction, but it falls a bit flatter when Sarah is not around to impress with my ability to max out the blaster at 999,999 points. (She claims to be unimpressed by this, but how could she not be?!)
While in line for Space Ranger Spin, I placed a Mobile Order at Cosmic Ray’s Starlight Cafe for the Mission to Mars Burger. It was still relatively early, but I wanted to beat the lunch rush and not wait for my food. I hit “I’m Here” while exiting Buzz, and received the notification that it was ready right as I walked up to the entrance of Cosmic Ray’s. That made me feel pretty cool–it’s the small victories.
Less cool was eating this burger by myself. Not because I have any anxiety about eating alone, but because this very bright, very orange burger bun left my face looking like George Sanderson. I’m not one to mask outdoors, but I made an exception en route to the restroom to wash my face.
While leaving the restroom next to Cheshire Cafe, I could hear Mickey’s Celebration Cavalcade approaching.
I made a beeline for Main Street to see it. Fortunately, I’m much faster than parade floats, and managed to get a pretty good spot.
Immediately after that, I saw the Main Street Philharmonic coming out from near Crystal Palace, so I stopped and watched their set.
I know it’s divisive, but I’m a fan of “The Magic is Calling.” Every celebration should have an anthem, and I strongly believe this will become more beloved over time, especially as guests develop nostalgia and associate memories of their trips with this song.
Anyway, after that I headed over to Casey’s Corner, where the pianist was finishing up his set.
Three entertainment acts all in close proximity to one another and in a short time span–what is this, Disneyland?!
From there, it was back to Carousel of Progress at 12:34 pm.
No line for that–but just wait until Genie starts giving out “Surprise Lightning Lanes!” for it.
I saw that the Tomorrowland Transit Authority PeopleMover had a relatively short line and the sun was behind clouds, so I opted for that next. The posted wait time at 1:02 pm was 15 minutes, and my actual wait time was 10 minutes.
From there, it was on to Storybook Circus, where Dumbo was my next stop. The posted wait time was 20 minutes, and my actual wait was 14 minutes.
Since I was already in the neighborhood, and Barnstormer had a 5 minute wait time (it might’ve jumped to 10 after I got in line–not totally sure), I did that. The actual wait was 7 minutes.
Had I been one party earlier in line, I would’ve had a shorter wait than guests using Genie+ and Lightning Lanes. It’s always interesting when you can see the entire line and merge point. (Moral of the story: Barnstormer is probably not a high priority Genie+ attraction…but we all probably knew that already!)
Although it may not seem like it given my day thus far, wait times were building throughout Magic Kingdom, with about a half-dozen attractions over an hour.
Given that I was going for quality and quantity, I opted to do Sam Eagle proud with the distinctly patriotic one-two punch of Country Bear Jamboree and Hall of Presidents. I had minimal wait for both of these, but since they’re so long, they ate up the better part of an hour.
I was also getting tired (not from the subject matter of those shows) and feared losing my edge, so it was time for a Starbucks stop. Sarah met up with me there, and we waited about 15 minutes at 2:52 pm.
From start to finish at Starbucks, that’s not too bad.
We played around with her Genie+ PhotoPass AR filters for a while, which was a surprising amount of fun. I’ve been instructed not to share our outtakes or how much difficulty we had with these since we don’t want to ruin the impression (held by none of you to begin with) that we’re hip and trendy. Suffice to say, there’s a reason neither of us have Snapchat–I’ll just leave it at that.
As an aside, I strongly suspect that all of this photo fun was a big ruse. While I have no evidence to confirm this, I believe Sarah was trying to mess up my stats as she waited out her next Genie+ reservation. Even though I never told her we were competing, she always seems to intuitively know when I’m hatching schemes.
We parted ways and I headed to the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, which had just returned from downtime. I got in line at 3:51 pm, when the posted wait time was 20 minutes and the line didn’t appear too bad.
This was a good lesson in line lengths once again being irrelevant now that Genie+ is in use. The line moved at a snail’s pace as a steady stream of Genie+ returns flowed into that line. My actual wait time was 27 minutes (the posted wait time jumped to 45 minutes by the time I exited the attraction).
From there, it was time to knock out everything else I had missed in Fantasyland. Next up was “it’s a small world,” which had a posted wait time of 15 minutes and an actual wait time of 10 minutes.
Following that, whatever the Little Mermaid dark ride is called, which had a 25 minute posted wait but an actual wait time of 21 minutes. While I think this attraction is actually underrated, I’d normally hold off on it until the wait time subsided–but I was running out of hours in the day and still had a lot to get done.
From there, I crossed through Fantasyland to see if I might be able to pick off Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, Peter Pan’s Flight, or Haunted Mansion, but all had lines that were prohibitive. Haunted Mansion was literally the longest I’ve seen it in years, and that would’ve been exacerbated by Genie+ making standby even slower-moving.
Instead, I headed over to Adventureland to knock out a couple more attractions there, starting with Walt Disney’s Enchanted Tiki Room. I timed this poorly, waiting 10 minutes for the next show.
Following that, it was time for Pirates of the Caribbean.
This had a posted wait time of 45 minutes at 6:10 pm, but I had no other options with only ~2 hours left in the day and the Disney After Hours Boo Bash mix-in starting to cause wait times to increase throughout the park–something that would not happen during a normal day in Magic Kingdom. Fortunately, my actual wait was only 31 minutes, but still longer than I would’ve liked.
At this point, it was almost 7 pm and all wait times on what I needed to finish were longer than ideal. I debated knocking out Haunted Mansion, but its line wasn’t any shorter than before. I almost did it just to “prove” my approach worked, but I put my pride aside. Instead, we regrouped for the night, playing with the PhotoPass AR filters included with Genie+ (let us know if there’s interest in a post running through all the options).
After it got too dark to continue using the AR filters, we headed to Tomorrowland to see if Astro Orbiter was a viable option, as it was one of the only things Sarah had yet to do. At 7:32 pm, the posted wait time for Astro Orbiter was 35 minutes and our actual wait was 14 minutes. Not too bad for an attraction that is exponentially better at night, anyway.
We didn’t have much time until Disney Enchantment, and planned on knocking out another attraction after the fireworks, so we debated between doing the PeopleMover or heading to the Tomorrowland bridge or Fantasyland.
While the PeopleMover would’ve been a relaxing way to end the day, the bridge was a strategically better option. Towards the end of the fireworks, we made our way towards Seven Dwarfs Mine Train…
As we approached Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, I noticed that there was literally no one in line outside–the area all the day into the building was clear. This meant that, at most, the ride had a 10-15 minute wait.
With this in mind, we decided not to watch the finale of Disney Enchantment from Fantasyland. Instead, we jumped in line for Seven Dwarfs Mine Train just before the fireworks ended with a sliver of hope that it wouldn’t be our last ride of the night. The posted wait time was 50 minutes, our wait time was between 3 and 4 minutes. It was a walk-on with some empty rows!
We easily made it to Peter Pan’s Flight before Magic Kingdom closed at 8:30 pm. By this time, the posted wait time was 30 minutes. Our actual wait time was 10 minutes, but the line was growing as we got off (due to the start of Boo Bash).
Ultimately, I am really satisfied with my day at Magic Kingdom without paying for Genie+. I accomplished a lot with an aggressive approach and only standby lines. It was a moderately crowded day, yet I managed to do 20 attractions, including almost every single headliner and several lengthy shows. I did far more than the average guest, despite staying off-site and doing this plan on a day with an early closing due to the After Hours event.
My plan wasn’t flawless, but I did have a few advantages. First, more knowledge than the average first-timer that better positioned me to make real-time adjustments to my itinerary. Not trying to toot my own horn, that’s simply the reality of testing itineraries at Magic Kingdom all the time. Second, a willingness to walk; I logged over 21,000 steps and criss-crossed the park (at lightning speed!) several times over. Third, I got really lucky at the end of the night being able to knock out both SDMT and PPF.
In addition to that, I would say that the crowd level was generally on my side. As discussed in October Crowds Spike at Walt Disney World, wait times have shot up but still aren’t bad for this time of year or the beginning of the World’s Most Magical Celebration. While some recent visitors dispute this characterization of crowds, it’s far better than I expected. If attendance was even 1 level higher or more guests bought Genie+, my results wouldn’t have been as good.
Finally, my day was not exactly relaxed. Part of this is because I kept tinkering around with the free Genie system, but another part was because I was so fixated on optimizing my approach. On the occasions when Sarah and I met up, and again at the end of the day, her demeanor and overall enjoyment of Magic Kingdom was far better and higher than mine. (Well, her demeanor is always better than mine, but that’s not the point!) She reiterated how much fun she was having on multiple occasions, and was very pleased with how things were going with Genie+.
This is something I’m willing to include in my report because I know the feeling. I remember using MaxPass at Disneyland and how that made the park experience both more relaxed and more efficient. That cuts against the prevailing narrative of Genie+ “forcing” people to get up early and have their faces glued to screens, but that narrative is simply inaccurate–and largely perpetuated by people who have never used Genie+ or even MaxPass.
Ultimately, the good news is that you can still have a great day at Magic Kingdom by using only standby lanes and savvy strategy. My results are proof of that, and the same would hold true even if 4-5 attractions were removed from what I accomplished. However, visiting Walt Disney World and accomplishing a lot without Genie+ or Lightning Lanes will take a little more work and effort. Whether you value your time or money more is a personal question. As a matter of principle, I’m extremely glad this day went so well, as guests should be able to enjoy Magic Kingdom like “normal” without spending even more. With that said, if I only had one day per year in Magic Kingdom as an actual tourist and not a tester, buying Genie+ would’ve been an absolute no brainer.
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Huge Disneyland MaxPass fans. For shorter trips it was fantastic. BUT it’s still Disney charging More while offering Less. DL Park includes photopass, but not included at DWorld. Previously maxpass had no ride limits, ride as many times as you can get a pass. AND most painful, Space mountain and Radiator Springs were previously included. So cheap to remove from paid access, so they can be paid + paid. Sometimes its the little things that are the most offensive. They poke at the nerves.
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Sounds like you both had a lot of fun! Thanks so much. Time will tell what will happen as more guests decide to buy genie+. I am also interested to see what happens in the park during peak times such as the height of summer. I wonder if all you accomplished would be possible without genie + during those months.
Very much appreciated! This will only be our second time going to Disney and last year, we went during Thanksgiving week with less crowds, covid stuff and used your one day itinerary and we got EVERY ride done (except Winnie the Pooh), no shows, because there weren’t any running. We had a LONG day and were pooped by the end of the day. Having been there already, we debated doing Genie+ however, my girls (8+6) like ONLY the thrill rides and some others like Haunted Mansion, Little Mermaid, so I felt like would getting it be worth it?? Having read your review, I’m saying NO it would not be worth it. We are going to Disney Monday, the week of Thanksgiving and we can’t wait! Will be curious to read your other reviews of using lightning lines/Genie+ at Hollywood studios because we haven’t been there and added it to our itinerary this year. We felt it was only needed for Rise of the Resistance since that’s the number one ride there. Thanks again for your awesome write ups!
On October 19, I modified my reservation to add the Genie + option for the duration of my stay for me and my spouse. We paid $ 15 each.
Once the option has been added, I can see the correct tickets in the apps
When I go in the app, I click on My Day, the app tell me: Take your day to the Next Level as if I had not paid the option which is wrong.
However, my partner does not have this message. On the contrary he can see the button for audios and photos lenses.
Why does my partner work and I don’t. However, we have the same reservation and we have the same tickets ….. When I try to link the reservation (room and ticket) in Genie service, I am told that it is impossible.
Since I paid the price, I should have access to the Genie + option just like my spouse, right?
Using a paid system is fine if there’s only one of you, but for a family of 4 it’s an extra $60 a day.
Walt set up his original park so families could have fun together, not to be pitted against other families in the race to get on the rides.
I understand it is entirely voluntary to pay for genie+ but it is increasingly feeling like a vacation to Disney is becoming more stressful than it’s worth
This is exactly what I have been waiting for. I do not plan on buying Genie+ For our upcoming trip. With a family of 4 it’s just not cost effective. We also have multiple days planned at each park so I’m confident that buy using early entry we can get it all done. Interested to see how you do the other parks without Genie+.
Thanks so much for your research! I got tired just reading it though.
We were at Magic Kingdom as well yesterday. We were so glad to have the Genie+. It works just like a Fast Pass. We rode 6 of the big rides with the Genie+ and walked on to each ride.
We then did Hollywood Studios today with Genie+. We did 7 rides in 4 hours – Tower of Terror three times, Rockin’ Rollercoaster, Mickey & Minnie’s rollercoaster, etc. all this before 12:00. On Monday, before Genie Plus, we only got to four rides the entire day (including the new ride Ride to the Resistence). We were in this line at rope drop and waited 2 hours. Then went over to Smuggler’s Run and waited another 90 minutes. By 12:00, we had only done 2 rides.
I’ve bern watching Genie+ For Rise to the Resistance – it is a pay individual ride and has sold out both days in just a few minutes.
We would definitely recommend buying the Genie+. We’ll worth $15 a person not to stand in lines.
Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid is one of my favorite rides!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I would be really interested to read about the same experiment in Hollywood Studio!
I applaud the competitiveness. I try to fight down my urge to “win” at the parks so that I make sure I’m relaxing too. But this day of yours was impressive! … On a separate note, I would be interested in a post about the AR filters and other perks of Genie+ besides the lightning lanes. At this point, I don’t see myself paying for Genie+, but maybe if I’m taking some newbies or kids who would be wowed by the entire package of things.
I will be visiting shortly and would love to hear more about the AR filters. Thank you for sharing your day without Genie+.
Sounds good, Tom! I see Sarah’s report is out now, so I’ll go read that one…
I’m just wondering what the additional cost for Genie+ and lightening lanes will be for Passholder s? Any idea? Thanks!
Reading this has made me think about one’s approach. Everyone’s different and we prefer to set up a couple of nice sit down meals and the rides/attractions fit around them. We prefer Mark Twain and it’s views of the park to It’s a Small World. I don’t need to knock out 20 rides but that doesn’t mean I won’t try. I guess our pace is slower and objectives different. I often wonder about those people who film the rides and the fireworks and only see it through that small lens. They don’t get to see their vacation until they go home and play it on the tv. Paying extra? We’re not big Star Wars fans but I probably would pay to avoid a goofy long wait for ROTR and Slinky Dog Dash. Sometimes I enjoy a little bit of a wait so I can watch the other Disney people. You can also have some pretty good conversations with your fellow linemates. There’s also something to be said for witnessing rope drop then walking onto Splash Mt, Big Thunder RR and Jungle Cruise in a row. There’s so many wonderful things to see and do at WDW that I’m not sure how important genie will be. I just hope the new systems aren’t self fulfilling harbingers that make it impossible to enjoy WDW without them.
Thanks for your reports. They are so important. I’m truly looking forward to your write up regarding Sarah’s “more fun” day.
I came and did BooBash on August 24th and ever since that night I, too, have felt like Halloween is already past (let alone still a week and a half from now). I’m also glad to hear I’m not the only secretly (but not actually secretly) competitive person out there when it comes to measuring levels of enjoyment. I WILL have ALL the fun, and can quantify it, too! That said, it seems like even if your day was more hectic you did manage to enjoy some ambiance and entertainment…but I think I agree that purchasing the +plus+ would allow me to have more of that in-between rides. Seems like a win–but only under the right conditions.
Nice work Tom! I’m impressed! I don’t know if you take post requests, but I’d love to know how a day at each park with genie + would go if you arrived at the parks at 10 or 11am instead of rope drop. Is it still worth it? My people are west coasters and we aren’t morning people in our own time zone. We’ve done max pass a few times but always sucked it up for the one or two days of our Disneyland trip and done rope drop to justify the cost. Not happening for a weeklong plus trip on east coast time… 🙁 As always I love your dedication to getting us quality Disney info! 🙂
At DCA they call the Mermaid ride “The Enchantment Under the Sea Dance.”
Look, as someone who wondered allowed to himself if it was possible to ride all rides in one day and then grew into an adult with a sad hobby, I’m mightily impressed by this (and diligently taking notes).
I am so glad you did this without paying for the rides. We need more of this and not blogs telling us how much they did in a day using Genie+ and Lightening Lane both which cost extra which is expensive for a family with children.