TRON Lightcycle Run Virtual Queue’s Roller Coaster Highs & Lows
The virtual queue for TRON Lightcycle Run has changed a bit in the last few months, with official new ‘rules’ for Party Season and unofficial updates to procedures. This Walt Disney World photo report shares recent experiences with Magic Kingdom’s new roller coaster, what you need to know for increasing your chances of success, and minimizing your time spent waiting in line.
For starters, the first thing you need to know is that there’s no standby line at TRON Lightcycle Run. That and other foundational information about Walt Disney World’s newest attraction is covered in our Ride Guide for TRON Lightcycle Run, which includes our patented (not really) speed strategy for scoring spots in the virtual queue.
TRON Lightcycle Run not having a standby line that doesn’t mean you won’t wait in line. More than anything else, that’s what this update concerns, as the informal/unposted wait time for TRON Lightcycle Run has become high at times and the not-totally-virtual queue return line frequently is quite long…
Let’s start with a statistical update for Party Season, as the early closing of Magic Kingdom multiple nights per week brings a new dynamic to the TRON Lightcycle Run virtual queue. When it comes to the 7 am virtual queue, not much has changed. Availability is still usually gone within seconds–almost always less than one minute.
The 1 pm entry time is when things have gotten interesting. As we’ve noted in countless posts, Magic Kingdom is far less busy on days when Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party is held. However, this does not translate to the 1 pm virtual queue for TRON Lightcycle Run. The reason for this is fairly obvious once you think about it.
With Magic Kingdom closing at 6 pm on Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party nights, there’s a lot less time to accommodate anyone who enters the 1 pm virtual queue. Even though demand for the park as a whole is far lower, it doesn’t drop enough as compared to a normal day to offset losing ~4 hours of capacity for TRON Lightcycle Run. So in essence, it’s a straightforward supply and demand imbalance.
Actually, it’s not just that. On a normal night when Magic Kingdom closes at 10 pm or 11 pm, there’s no sense of urgency to clear the queue by any specific time. If TRON Lightcycle Run experiences a lot of downtime–I was just at the park the other day when it broke down for roughly 3 hours–the ride can keep running and processing guests right up until park closing.
By contrast, the goal on MNSSHP nights is to clear TRON Lightcycle Run of day guests by 6 pm–not just call all boarding groups by then. At least so far, it thus appears that the result of this is Disney being more conservative with the number of boarding groups distributed to day guests during the 1 pm drop on MNSSHP days. That means even less supply, and more of the aforementioned imbalance.
Rather than continuing to over-explain the why of this, I’ll cut to the chase and give you the key takeaway: the 1 pm virtual queue is closing far faster on MNSSHP days than non-party days. That’s the bad news. The good news is that it’s still open for more than just a few seconds–often 5-8 minutes. That’s as compared to the TRON Lightcycle Run 1 pm virtual queue staying open for roughly 30 t0 90 minutes on many recent non-party days.
But wait, there’s more (bad news)! Although those averages aren’t too shabby, they are trending in the wrong direction. In the last few days, there have been instances of the virtual queue closing even faster in the afternoon. It remains to be seen whether those are anomalies or the start of a new-normal as Party Season gets into full swing and guests have a sudden sense of urgency.
Regardless of what happens in the near-term during Walt Disney World’s September slowdown, we’d expect the virtual queue for TRON Lightcycle Run to become (much) more competitive in the medium term, from around late September through December 2023. That’s when Party Season expands from 2 days per week to 3-4 days per week, which is enough to disrupt this dynamic.
That’ll limit supply even further, and also mess with attendance patterns pretty significantly. Unless there’s a lot of unaccounted for change in demand, expect the 1 pm virtual queue to be much more difficult during the heart of Party Season. That’ll continue during the peak of the holiday season, through around January 8, 2024.
For Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party attendees, there’s more good and bad news. We mentioned above that Disney attempts to clear TRON Lightcycle Run of day guests by 6 pm. Well, this means that if you’re fast, score a low boarding group, and return before 7 pm, the return line should be pretty manageable.
Before I get ahead of myself, above and below are screenshots of the process for joining the TRON Lightcycle Run virtual queue during MNSSHP. I’m not going to belabor how this works, but the process is the same as joining at 7 am or 1 pm, and it is not necessary to have already entered Magic Kingdom.
In terms of policy, the virtual queue for MNSSHP is identical to Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom. You can enter at one of the earlier times and again at 6 pm for the bonus hours after normal park closing time. In fact, you could theoretically ride TRON Lightcycle Run up to 3 times in one day if you’re a day guest and party attendee. Once thanks to one of the earlier two VQ times, once via Individual Lightning Lane, and a third time during MNSSHP.
Circling back, my experience with the TRON Lightcycle Run virtual queue during Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party was completely frictionless. I was called back at 6:24 pm and there was no line whatsoever when I arrived.
The whole process was speedy, especially as contrasted with some of the recent waits I’ve endured on regular days and nights in Magic Kingdom. Suffice to say, you can pretty easily be done with TRON Lightcycle Run before 7 pm if you play your cards right.
For what it’s worth, I checked back later during MNSSHP and the return line was longer but still not bad. I can’t speak with authority about the wait time then, but it looked to me as being more consistent with the Lightning Lane than the virtual queue on a normal night. That makes sense, and is more or less what I’d expect throughout Party Season so long as there are no ride breakdowns. (Of course, this is highly anecdotal, so I’d love to hear from others who have done TRON Lightcycle Run during the parties!)
That’s the good news. The bad news is that I wouldn’t be surprised if this changes. The 6 pm virtual queue for TRON Lightcycle Run during Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party has been filling up almost instantly. We’re talking under 10 seconds for all of the parties thus far, which is fairly comparable to Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom.
This leaves absolutely no margin for error. If you don’t have an alarm set, you or your phone are slow, My Disney Experience freezes, or you have any number of other issues–all of which can and do happen to guests every single day–you’re out of luck. There’s a certain “tolerance” for this when it comes to Extended Evening Hours since that is a “free” perk, but it wouldn’t surprise me if this is generating guest complaints at the pricey MNSSHP.
If there are enough complaints…and if TRON is sending out too many empty lightcycles due to the conservative callback of groups aimed at keeping the line short…it also wouldn’t surprise me if there are more policy changes. Basically, I could see the short return lines discussed above become progressively longer over the course of MNSSHP and MVMCP season. In fact, that’s what I’d expect.
As implied above, it’s a different story on normal nights in Magic Kingdom. You will likely be waiting–and potentially for a long time–after returning to the attraction when your boarding group is called.
We offered an update on this over the summer, after several readers reported waiting 45 to 90 minutes in the outdoor overflow queue during the day before boarding a lightcycle. I’ve since been in the same boat, and have waited 40-55 minutes for TRON Lightcycle Run at various points in mid-August 2023.
With that said, I still can’t speak to the average wait time; if the line is outside the attraction entrance, you’re looking at 30 minutes at the very least. If the Lightning Lane is also backed up, virtual queue return wait times of 60-90 minutes are entirely plausible, as priority is given to paid Lightning Lane users.
Previously, I mentioned that the reason this was not on my personal radar was because I always do the 1 pm virtual queue drop and I always hesitate and wait for a few minutes after 1 pm (between 1:05 pm and 1:15 pm based on my perception of crowd levels–or right at 2 pm if I’m Park Hopping). I started doing this because I prefer TRON Lightcycle Run at night, and continued doing it because the return line is almost always shorter after 8 pm. Or rather, because the line used to be shorter at night.
More recently, I’ve either gotten tremendously unlucky with downtime or Walt Disney World has wisened up to this and is distributing more boarding groups and calling back more in the evening hours. Again, entirely anecdotal, but my recent waits have been just as bad at night as during the day.
This was even true during a recent (and particularly bad) Extended Evening Hours at Magic Kingdom, when the return line for TRON Lightcycle Run wrapped all the way back to the attraction marquee that’s at the entrance to the miniland. I actually didn’t end up waiting in that line due to user error (it’s a long and uninteresting story), but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a 90 minute wait. Not exactly what I’d expect from ExEH!
Previously, I had never used the “speed strategy” for Extended Evening Hours because I prefer having an end-of-night callback. After this experience, I’m going to up my game and see if having one of the first boarding groups distributed during ExEH helps reduce wait times. Given everything else that went wrong that night at Magic Kingdom, it’s certainly worth testing–I can’t see it going any worse!
A few nights after that, TRON Lightcycle Run went down in the evening and had a lengthy overflow queue as a result. Again, I didn’t bother. In this case, it was a calculated decision, though. If the ride goes down during your callback window, you can return at a later time without issue…so there’s very little upside in waiting out the indefinite closure.
Instead, I raced around photographing a stunning sunset (which would’ve been better with lightcycles whizzing by overhead, but ya can’t win ’em all!) and doing a number of other attractions. To the best of my knowledge, TRON Lightcycle Run never reopened that night.
Even if TRON Lightcycle Run doesn’t break down while you’re in the return line, downtime can impact you. If the attraction is temporarily unavailable earlier in the day, that creates a backlog of guests who purchased Individual Lightning Lane access to TRON Lightcycle Run.
Because that’s paid and, naturally, Walt Disney World doesn’t want to issue any more refunds than necessary (and thus lose revenue), Lightning Lane guests are prioritized over those in the regular return line. This is actually true at all attractions with Lightning Lanes, which is why the standby line can come to a crawl–and posted wait times immediately skyrocket–after rides return from downtime. It’s because the ratio of Lightning Lane to standby guests shifts dramatically in favor of the former. Those ratios are always variable, but become the most lopsided post-downtime.
Ultimately, my hope is that this provides some actionable advice or at least interesting insight into how things are going for TRON Lightcycle Run at Magic Kingdom. For what it’s worth, my recent experiences with Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind at EPCOT suggest something somewhat similar happening there with more boarding groups being called back and longer return times, but it hasn’t been nearly as pronounced/bad.
It’s a bit beyond the scope of this post, but the under-discussed angle of these virtual queues is the impact on crowd levels. Weekly wait time averages for August 2023 have been 33-36 minutes across the entirety of Walt Disney World. The lines for both Cosmic Rewind and TRON Lightcycle Run likely have higher averages than that, but are excluded from the data. And again, that’s just the return lines.
It’s impossible to calculate what the actual wait times would be if these rides had standby lines (you can’t come up with a credible number by adding the virtual queue wait to the return wait; there’s no opportunity cost to the virtual queue and thus no balking point), but my guess is at least 120 minutes each on average. That’s a large enough number to have a non-negligible impact on overall crowd levels at both Magic Kingdom and EPCOT.
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YOUR THOUGHTS
Do you have any recent experience with TRON Lightcycle Run? In particular, how long did you wait in the return line and when? Was it during MNSSHP or Extended Evening Hours? After TRON Lightcycle Run had experienced downtime? Any other feedback based on your experiences? Do you agree or disagree with any of our assessment and advice? Any questions? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
We’re going to MNSSHP the week before Halloween-hoping for lower crowds since my daughter really wants to do Tron. I’ve done it once and would prefer to not wait in long lines so I can check off my food/candy/parade/photopass boxes!
I was at Friday night’s party (8/25). I was in group 195 and I didn’t get called until 10:30 pm. I walked over after the 10:15 fireworks ended and was told the wait was about an hour. It was closer to 45 minutes but a long wait for the end of the night.
I, too, attended the 2nd party and got boarding group 31 or so. We were called around 6:30/6:45 and since we were in Tomorrowland already, walked right over. The ride was a walk-on! Went back to Magic Kingdom this past Sunday and joined a boarding group at 7am. We were called around 2:45pm and had a 45 minute wait when we arrived there at 3:20pm. At Epcot, we joined the Guardians of the Galaxy virtual queue at 1pm on a Thursday (missed the 7am opportunity) and our group got called at 9pm. At 9:55pm the wait time was an hour and a half and we had to skip it. I noticed lots of down time for this ride throughout the afternoon so I’m guess that’s what did it. Thanks for all your advice which helped make our trip fun and much more efficient!
We also attended the brutal inferno otherwise known as the first 2023 MNSSP. Our party of 4–me, my aunt, and my two daughters, ages 14 and 11–had dinner at The Plaza, with the adults ready on our phones to place in the 6 pm virtual queue. Our boarding time was probably around 9 pm. The wait line looked fairly short, maybe 15 minutes or less. Fortunately for my older daughter, my younger one is not ready for coasters. So we partook of the rider switch option, and my older and my aunt were ushered right in while I waited with my younger. Upon their return, it was my turn, and my older daughter wholeheartedly enjoyed a second ride in her sister’s place.
We were at the second Halloween party of the season, it was sold out. My son and I used 2 phones right at 6 to get a spot and were successful. Our call back time was about 8:45, and I was happy for this as it was dark when we got there at 9:00. Reading your review made me want a call back time when it was dark, very cool!
The line took about 20-25 minutes to board. We were very excited when we got to the front of the line and the attendant said spot #1! Front row the first time riding this ride was great! We both agreed it is our favorite Disney ride but it needed to be longer. It is a unique ride and very neat and different Que. The que it self and build up is intimidating and I like that!
For a second recent report, I just got back from a trip and attended the Extended Evening hours at MK two days ago. I managed to get into the 6pm Tron queue without difficulty (well, without MUCH difficulty. I was watching the Cirque du Soleil show at the time, but discretely ducked below my seat to not impact anyone.) They called us back to ride while the park was still open, which was a surprise to me! But it was only about a 20 minute wait even still, and they were dispatching train cars that weren’t totally full (I sat alone as a single rider). My EE hours experience was actually phenomenal that night, though…I was braced for long lines, but we walked onto everything and were literally the only group who entered the stretching room at Haunted Mansion. I have to say it’s downright EERIE doing that ride alone! Either way, my takeaway after this and your last report is that nothing is consistent right now…it’s just luck what kind of night you’re going to get.
Thanks for sharing your report! Not surprised about your experience with TRON prior to the start of ExEH. That does happen–usually because the ride “overperformed” and they got through day guests early.
I’m much more surprised about your ExEH experience. Maybe occupancy has already dropped a lot between my stays and yours? Even though they were only a week apart, probably a lot more ‘last hurrah’ of summer visits in mid-August than late August. Or perhaps I’m just trying to make sense of the nonsensical!
I was shocked by it, too. On top of it being pleasant (for this time of year) weather, we actually left a little after midnight because we’d ridden everything we wanted to ride. Maybe if I’d been heading for Seven Dwarfs it would have been different, to be fair, but it’s not one I usually do since I dislike the outdoor queue and the duration so much. Guess that’s ironic now given that a good chunk of Tron is also outdoors, but the latter half of it is so nice I usually forget the heat by the time I’m on the ride…
We have been there across the line between the 2nd and 3rd weeks of August in many years. Our experience is that there is a dramatic drop-off as you enter the second half of the month. Things like 2nd week sees lines at the Safari routinely 25-45 minutes with both sides loading; returning the following week on a similar day and time finds it a 5-10 minute wait at the same time of day with only one side loading. Of course there are never guarantees – but when comparing weeks on either side of the 15th of August, I will never be surprised if people say something like “massive reduction in crowds … “
I was there 3 weeks ago and it took 90 minutes of waiting in the queue to get on the ride.
It was 94 degrees with a feels like temperature of 123 degrees that morning. It is brillant that so much of the queue is in the direct sun.
Ouch. I’m surprised you had that long of a wait in the morning. Also…were the overflow queue umbrellas not up? (I do agree that it’s odd the canopy doesn’t completely cover the outside queue, which seems like a pretty obvious oversight.
The waits for Tron seem particularly sensitive to downtime. I’ve seen the queue extend down to Space Mountain and curl round to the Speedway. It was down for a fair time but not hours that day as far as I noticed. Its also a (very) bad use of ExEH. By then its a min.45 minute wait.
“I’ve seen the queue extend down to Space Mountain and curl round to the Speedway.”
Holy cow.
I’ve been paying closer attention to TRON, and I haven’t seen that. Farthest back I’ve seen is the marquee/gift shop area, which is still a really, really long line!
Was at the second party on Aug 15th. My boarding group was called around 6:45. I pushed it and made it in right at the hour 7:45 hoping to have night when I left. The lights just started to turn on when I got off the ride around 8:30. Thanks for the pointers on getting the lighting lane. I have used them for two trips and have gotten every virtual Q and Genie +I was going for.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That’s a bit longer of a wait than I would’ve expected, but you also did wait until close to 8 pm. Can’t blame you for making the tradeoff of a slightly longer line for a sunset/dusk ride, though!