World Celebration & CommuniCore at EPCOT Review: Better Than a Dirt Pit & Walls, I Guess?

CommuniCore Hall and Plaza are the new multi-purpose spaces for guests to relax, to anchor EPCOT Festivals, and everything in between. World Celebration is the new neighborhood in the former Future World that focuses on experiences that bring communities together.

Walt Disney World introduced the new venues with EPCOT’s VP saying, “If you can dream it, CommuniCore Hall can do it… the future of this gathering and event space is limited only by the boundaries of imagination. We’re all about the magic of possibilities here at EPCOT, and our imaginations are pretty spectacular.”

Disney added that CommuniCore Hall will “bring the center of the park to life seasonally as an ever-changing hall to highlight art, live music, food, and more.” This review will endeavor to determine whether CommuniCore Hall and Plaza, as well as the larger World Celebration Gardens around the venue, actually live up to those lofty words.

In the interest of full disclosure, we attended the media preview of CommuniCore Hall & Plaza before it opened to the general public and got to enjoy free food, special interior decor, and added entertainment. Given that, you might want to discard our opinions as paid shills, take this review with a grain of salt, etc. Just a fair warning for the sake of transparency that we might be biased.

With that out of the way, CommuniCore Hall and Plaza is sad. There are a lot of other words I could use to describe it–some of which are harsher but none of which are positive–but I keep coming back to sad.

It’s sad that Walt Disney World closed Innoventions and the central spine of former Future World in September 2019 and took so long for a replacement. It’s sad that the plans for an architecturally-ambitious three-level festival center were cancelled. It’s sad that the COVID closure derailed so much intended for the EPCOT overhaul, festival space included.

It’s sad that this is the end result after three rounds of designs. It’s sad that Disney stayed the course and didn’t pivot for a fourth time once pent-up demand arrived and the parks started overperforming. It’s sad that we’re stuck with this for the coming decades. It’s just sad.

If you’ve read any of my commentary leading up to the opening of CommuniCore Hall, you know my expectations were not exactly sky-high. (If you haven’t, good background is EPCOT’s Overhaul Needs Optimism & Ambition.) It’s not as if I had unrealistic expectations and was thinking that this rectangular building that took over 4 years to open was a clandestine coaster or Figment & Friends Jamboree. I knew it was going to be a festival space.

And yet, CommuniCore Hall somehow fell short of my very low expectations. How is that even possible?! My expectations had gotten so low and the project was delayed by so much that maybe I was starting to come full circle and hope that they’d surprise us and overdeliver a little? I don’t even know anymore.

I’ve made no secret of how much the unambitious plans for CommuniCore Hall bothered me (again, see the above post or RIP Giant EPCOT Dirt Pit, or pretty much any of our EPCOT construction updates from the last several years). In response to that criticism, many fans have defended Walt Disney World, accusing me of not understanding how the world works, ignoring how the pandemic “caused” this, etc.

I maintain that Walt Disney World should’ve powered full steam ahead on the EPCOT central spine redesign during the March through July 2020 closure. After all, the core of the park had to reopen, so why not finish the landscaping expeditiously to reduce or remove as many walls as possible? However, I also understand the hesitation to do so on the substantive projects.

That includes the three-level festival center! Believe me, I remember the dire outlook in mid-2020, with Wall Street analysts predicting that it would take at least 5 years for travel to recover and, even then, it might never come back to normal. That caused us some sleepless nights–I’ll never forget.

I also remember that CommuniCore Hall was not announced in mid-2020! That’s when the three-level festival center was shelved, but no replacement was revealed at that time. It was a holding pattern until almost two years later, when CommuniCore was announced in May 2022.

For reference, this site first discussed “revenge travel” in this post from August 2020. By May 2022, we had literally dozens of posts about pent-up demand at Walt Disney World. That ended up being a blockbuster year for the parks. Heck, Walt Disney World’s overperformance might’ve been how Bob Chapek kept his job for so long even as he bungled pretty much everything else.

Point being, the real revisionist history is pretending that, when CommuniCore Hall was announced, Walt Disney World “needed” to scale back plans “because of the pandemic.” That argument could’ve been made two years earlier, but not in 2022. The circumstances were very different and much more favorable. It was already clear that Disney’s Parks were a stable and reliable business worthy of further investment.

Still, it’s pretty common to forgive and forget construction delays once the end product is finally open. Once the attraction or whatever is open, it (arguably) stops mattering how long it took to build. Most guests are clueless as to that, anyway, and even fans are ready to move on for the most part and judge the thing on its own merits. This is a fair perspective–it’s not like we’re still bemoaning TRON Lightcycle Run’s timeline when discussing that solid addition to Magic Kingdom.

In that spirit, let’s do a thought experiment to see if it’s possible to view CommuniCore Hall & Plaza, and World Celebration as a whole, in  a more favorable light. If the former Future World and Innoventions closed in mid-2023 and this was built in record time, what would our opinion be?

Still negative! It’s not just that this EPCOT overhaul began in earnest on September 9, 2019 and ended up taking longer than the construction of the original EPCOT Center. If anything, the prolonged project worn down a lot of fans (us included!). I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard comments along the lines of, “I’m just ready for this to all be over and the walls to come down at this point.”

There are complaints about the lengthy timeline, to be sure, but sentiment like the above is every bit as common. It thus wouldn’t surprise me if CommuniCore and World Celebration are being graded against the Giant EPCOT Dirt Pit™️ and sea of construction walls–the interim things they replaced–rather than their permanent predecessors.

Anyway, the bigger problem is that things themselves are just not very good. CommuniCore Hall doesn’t look that much different than the Innoventions building it replaced. It rearranges some of the space and freshens up the aesthetic, but it does so in a way that’s wholly unambitious. There’s a reason that it’s getting dragged by fans for looking like a new hospital cafeteria or convention center flex space or airport terminal–because it does. We spent a lot of time at a hospital back in October and I’m no stranger to airports or conventions–those are all right on the money.

More than anything else, CommuniCore Hall reminds me of a new student union built at our alma mater about 10 years ago. The biggest difference is that our university went big with the idea of future-proofing its union because it was outgrowing the old one. That was a smart move–Disney should’ve copied our school’s homework. If they’re going for a real world bland and boring look, why not consult the venues that have honed the practical side of that.

This brings me to one of the key criticisms I have for CommuniCore Hall’s festival space–it’s surprisingly small and oddly shaped! You may not notice this if you visit today and only a scattering of people are in there, but it was bustling for the media event, and it was downright difficult to navigate.

One of my first thoughts upon entering was that it’s undersized for a festival center. I think they’re going to have difficulty using this space for that purpose. Unless they plan on doing a scaled-back festival slate as compared to 2019 in perpetuity.

That brings us to the other big issue I have with CommuniCore Hall. The idea was to replace Innoventions and the makeshift festival centers that had previously been utilized at the Odyssey and Wonders pavilion. From a practical perspective, that made some degree of sense–consolidate everything under one roof near the center of the park.

The problem with CommuniCore is that it doesn’t strike me as superior to the retrofits done with the Odyssey or Wonders. If anything, I prefer both of those existing venues. The Odyssey has more windows and nice views. The Wonders pavilion is much larger and has a bunch of quirky space that, in the past, was used for fun and random purposes. Walt Disney World got creative and put both to use brilliantly for events. CommuniCore isn’t creative on any level, and is at best a lateral move from both of those festival spaces.

Even though it’s been open for a few months, I never reviewed the World Celebration Gardens; I’d be remiss if I didn’t air my grievances about those since I’m already on a bit of a rant. I’ve got a lot of problems with this space, and now you’re gonna hear about it! These so-called gardens also stink!

I recall “The Discourse” on social media when this area first opened, and it was about a 50/50 split of praise and complaints. A lot of the World Celebration Gardens proponents talked up the park-like quality, and how they were a nice place to relax and decompress. An area to simply be–perhaps a palate cleanser or counter-programming to the chaos and crowds of the rest of the park. Fair enough, I thought, and nodded in silent agreement that Walt Disney World could really use more areas exactly like this.

And then I stepped foot in the World Celebration Gardens and immediately wondered whether those fans had ever visited a public park. Seriously. I would describe the style of this area as a cross between hostile architecture and suburban office park. Which is kind of an odd approach since neither the homeless nor Michael Scott are considerations at EPCOT.

I realize that a lot of Walt Disney World fans come from suburbs or other places that don’t have many outdoor public spaces. So perhaps this is unfamiliar from that perspective. But you know who does live around a lot of nice public parks? Every Imagineer based in Glendale, California. In a 25-mile radius of their offices, there are easily a dozen parks that are nicer than the World Celebration Gardens. And most of those aren’t gated behind admission fees of $100+ per day.

So many of the choices in World Celebration’s design, materials, seating, ornamentation, and plants are just perplexing. The space doesn’t feel inviting, a lot of the seating is awkward, way too many of the purely aesthetic flourishes are (purposefully) rusty, and there are shockingly few flowers for “gardens.” (Don’t get me wrong, I love having more plant life–but this is begging for more that isn’t just green.)

The various nooks and alcoves feel like they were designed independently of one another, and just kinda tossed together at the last minute. Disney is so, so good at the architecture of reassurance, but you’d never know it from spending time in these gardens.

To be sure, some of the seating spots are okay in isolation. Pleasant places to take your food and dine if Connections is busy and it’s an overcast day. The problem with these good elements of the World Celebration Gardens is that there’s little daylight between them and an office park.

That would be okay if the plain areas were punctuated by lush but superfluous spaces. Instead, the boring spots are arguably the highlight. Take a photo of these seating areas and somewhere outside an office in Irvine and the “they’re the same picture” meme of Pam from the Office is ironically appropriate.

For their part, the superfluous spaces are uninviting. They’re not unexpected and whimsical delights. More like little pockets of the park that make you say “huh?” and leave immediately. There is no urge to explore the World Celebration Gardens or linger. The best thing about this area is the views of Spaceship Earth, which is better enjoyed from the excellent front entrance area.

On a positive note, the lighting is good. The pavement and mood lighting around the oddly provocative planter is top-notch. I personally thought the old fiber optics had more charm, but in the grand scheme of things, this is fine. It was savvy of Disney to open this area back in winter when there’s like an extra 3 hours of evening, giving this space more time to shine.

It’s not winter anymore, and during the summer when sunset is after 8 p.m., the only time the vast majority of guests are seeing this is when walking towards the exit after Luminous. It’s hard for me to give too much credit for the lighting design when the practical reality is that most guests are spending time here during the day, not at night.

It’s the same story with CommuniCore Plaza, the new stage and concert venue. Excellent and energetic lighting at night, but a shadeless sea of concrete once you get past the very small covered area adjacent to the stage. It’s another perplexing instance of whoever designed this seemingly never stepping outside in Florida 10 months of the year.

Was nothing learned from Stitch’s Supersonic Celebration? Or is everyone who did learn something from that boondoggle simply gone? In any case, I wouldn’t be surprised if ¡Celebración Encanto! is the first and last daytime stage show at this venue, after which it becomes a space for hula-hooping and other activities.

I’d probably be more forgiving of the World Celebration Gardens if they had a water feature. Admittedly, the Fountain of Nations was one of my favorite things about Future World. For good reason–it added excellent kinetic energy to that area of the park, elevating it even when it was otherwise becoming tired.

Removing the Fountain of Nations without a comparable replacement was a mistake. There is now no (worthwhile) focal point of the World Celebration Gardens. The closest thing is now the flower logo planter, but that’s by default. Or perhaps it’s the Walt the Dreamer statue, which should be the icing on the cake rather than the cake itself. (It’s telling when not even nostalgia and fan service–reviving the CommuniCore name–can save this area.)

As a result, the World Celebration Gardens are not a nice place to relax and decompress, or an area to simply be. This area exists as a route from the front of the park to the back. It is utilitarian in nature, with the vast majority of guests not taking time to slow down or savor this space. At least, not for the vast majority of each day or the year.

With all of this said, I want to be clear that I have no delusions about the former Future World and am not viewing that through the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia. It had 1990s dead mall vibes and was overdue for a replacement.

The park’s central spine that runs between Spaceship Earth and World Showcase lagoon has been limping along without any cohesive vision for over two decades. It had been a duct tape approach with new paint schemes, sails, whirlygigs, and other aesthetic flourishes trying to fake a sense of life and kinetic energy.

The central spine was very discordant as a result. A good comparison is the Grand Canyon Concourse at the Contemporary, which is a visual hodgepodge of piecemeal changes over the last few decades. The thing is, the Grand Canyon Concourse wouldn’t be better if it got a generic and sterilized look from the design team at Marriott–it’d just be different. Same idea here. World Celebration Gardens can’t be accused of being dated (for now), but the area can’t really be praised for anything, either.

This sort of cuts to the heart of issues with the World Celebration Gardens and CommuniCore Hall–it’s the worst of all worlds. If it were done in short order, it would be more forgivable. If it were an inexpensive and interim solution, it’d be more forgivable. If it took a ton of time and money but were big and bold, that would also be forgivable.

Going with an ambitious concept that would stand the test of time, as was originally intended, would’ve been fantastic. Alternatively, modernizing the existing space to extend its life and vanquish the dead mall vibes would’ve been fine. I would’ve completely understood if they kicked the can down the road once COVID happened, waiting until the next decade and the fresh $17 billion of planned investment to create something truly worthy of EPCOT.

Skeptics might’ve scoffed, but there were (are) still two suitable festival centers and the more restrained placemaking approach worked incredibly well at both the front entrance plaza and on the other Innoventions building. While I don’t think Creations Shop or Connections Cafe are the pinnacle of themed design, they are worthy upgrades over their immediate predecessors.

Not only that, they seem purposefully designed with the idea that what was outside in World Celebration would be worth seeing. Instead, those floor to ceiling windows have nice views of Spaceship Earth…and that’s about it. (Thankfully, that’s enough!)

While we’re on the topic of other aspects of the EPCOT overhaul, it’s not like we’re negative about this transformation as a whole. Moana’s Journey of Water embodies the spirit of EPCOT Center and its edutainment roots. It’s wonderfully executed and a fantastic role-filling addition. Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind is a shockingly good fit for EPCOT and a fun blockbuster attraction that breathed new life into that corner of the park and has massive drawing power. Point being: we’re not old school purists resistant to any change. We were ready to see EPCOT evolve.

If anything, the problem with the EPCOT overhaul is that it didn’t go far enough. Tons of time, money, and guest goodwill or patience were wasted on completely inconsequential or abandoned projects. EPCOT still needs a lot more help to truly be transformed, but that wouldn’t be the case if resources were just properly allocated in the first place.

Ultimately, I’m glad the Giant EPCOT Dirt Pit™️ has been filled in and the sea of “progress walls” (remember that?) have come down. The World Celebration Gardens and CommuniCore Hall are, in fact, better than unfinished construction and visual blight. So at least there’s that. Like so many other fans, I was worn down by the inexcusable pace of this project and am relieved to just have things normal. And what’s there is fine, I guess. Things looking bland-but-fresh is better than nostalgic dead mall vibes.

But that’s just such a low bar and it’s downright depressing that a creative company known for exceeding expectations delivered this. It’s incredibly discouraging to go through 3 rounds of redesigns and 4+ years of enduring a maze of walls to end up with this. World Celebration and CommuniCore are going to be around for decades to come, and it looks wholly unambitious and uninspired.

Whatever, though. Looking like an Irvine office park and Terminal C at MCO should be good enough. Paying guests should be happy Disney is giving us anything at all, and we should stop complaining. It’s not like this is the park dedicated to the spirit of human innovation and imagination and is constantly framed as the realization of Walt Disney’s last big dream. Oh wait. I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed.

Also, I’m hopeful that this element of the EPCOT overhaul serves as a cautionary tale for the company, and they don’t believe their own hype for it. Here’s hoping that the $17 billion of investments over the coming decade have a bolder and more cohesive vision–along with the appetite to stay the course and execute on it.

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YOUR THOUGHTS

What do you think of CommuniCore Hall or the World Celebration Gardens? Is this a good new-look for the central spine, or underwhelming as compared to the previous multi-level festival center? Looking forward to any of these projects coming to EPCOT? Disappointed about anything that has been delayed or cancelled? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!

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  1. Don’t you think this blandness fits in with World Showcase, which is essentially a series of gift shops in somewhat interesting buildings? EPCOT has sadly become the Cheesecake Factory of WDW parks. Definitely fourth on the list for me.

  2. Tom, if you update this can you add before and after photos? It has been so long since I was there without the walls, I forgot what it looked liked. Also, the photos for the “now”, all I notice is the planter. Is that it??!! Just having a problem visualizing it.

  3. you’ve echoed our sentimentts to the core. my wife and I have stated these same sentiments over these many years. 4 years to build a concrete pad and an unimaginative building. sadly universals recent additions have taken so much less time and have turned out better.

  4. To the people offering Covid as an excuse for the delay and uninspiring results, I would simply say that Universal’s Epic Universe, a project far greater in size and scope, sure didn’t seem to be affected by Covid.

    In my uneducated opinion, this disaster (even Tom thinks so!) is due to two things.

    One, Disney decided to cheap out and throw up something plain and boring because it was just that…cheap!

    Or, my conspiracy leaning disposition speculates that this was the reason: it was made purposely boring to ensure people spent less time there and more time elsewhere in revenue producing activities. Given the extreme nickle and diming by Disney in recent years, it wouldn’t surprise me that they purposely de-emphasize non-revenue producing areas of the parks. Remember: every single negative take away in the past four years has been the elimination of non-revenue producing things (Fast Passes, Magical Express, luggage handling, resort airline check-in, free wrist bands, etc).

    This biggest surprise here is that they didn’t remake this area into a new ride that could be added to Genie+ as an Individual Lightening Lane.

    1. It’s worth pointing out that one of the reasons fans were ‘skeptical’ of the three-level festival center was the presumption that areas of it would be off limits due to upcharge offerings. I think that was overblown, but that was definitely part of Disney’s intent.

      I’d also assume that the purpose of this festival center, in part, will be the paid demos during Food & Wine. There’s also a Lightning Lane for the meet & greet. So it will generate revenue. Presumably, it could’ve generated a lot more if they went with the bolder plan.

      It’s shortsighted no matter how you slice it.

    1. Probably not your intent, but the way that’s worded you almost sound disappointed that it doesn’t smell like mildew. 😉

  5. Annual passholder here and FL resident . Honestly I have been to Epcot recently and I don’t even
    Think I noticed what it was there since the walls were down . I just walked past . Descriptors like thoughtless , cheap, bland , utilitarian, boring, inconsiderate of the extreme
    Weather in Florida , akin to a hospital
    Or airport etc … have NO place in a Disney theme park . It is too expensive of an experience for Disney to have dropped the ball and insulting to their customers and their own brand and legacy . I just assumed they were trying to build a bland walkway ( although that is unacceptable), Not an actual “space” or “experience.” Do better Disney .

  6. The Southeast Museum of Photography at the state college in Daytona Beach has its student exhibit this summer. One student, interested in architectural photography, noticed that Florida’s older hospitals were plain, functional buildings. The new ones, run by the big consolidated health companies, are now Statements, resembling posh resorts and other prestige stuff. So he did glamor photos of a bunch of flashy hospitals. Fine photos and I suspect he’ll be able to make money in that specialty. One hospital is in Lake Nona, which is trying hard to be Irvine in Orlando.

    In a period when architecture and garden design are innovating rapidly, it puzzles me that Disney seems stodgy and cheap. Cheap is a bit understandable. For a while, theme parks were not the center of Disney’s business. Now, they are.

  7. The pro-Universal comments here and on our Facebook post about this are, ahem, interesting.

    They almost suggest to me that many of Universal’s biggest cheerleaders don’t actually visit Universal. If they did, they’d see that Universal has plenty of ‘misses’ to go along with its ‘hits.’

    Look, I am very, very excited for Epic Universe. I hope it’s a game-changer, and I expect several of its attractions and a couple of lands to really raise the bar. But pretending the current parks are perfect is wild–Universal has had several of fails in the last decade–or even the last two years.

    To their credit, none of Universal’s flops took this long or cost this much, so at least there’s that! 😉

    1. I wonder if (and this is pure conjecture on my part!) Universal benefits from its smaller footprint here. Obviously that will change a bit when Epic Universe opens and they have to contend with being down the road from Studios and IoA, but as it stands right now, the flops and the genre-defining moments exist right next to each other. Sometimes literally. You can get off Fast and the Furious (because you apparently hate yourself) and cleanse your mind of it with Diagon Alley pretty much IMMEDIATELY. Whereas Disney’s “blessing of size” means the flops have less in the immediate vicinity to distract from them, sometimes.

  8. It’s a sad statement that after so many years in the making, the most enthusiastic remark I heard from my traveling group of 10 people was “oh good we don’t have to walk around walls now to cross”….and I heard a similar comment said by two other groups walking near us.

    My takeaway besides the one mentioned above was the lack of shade. Visiting on June 7, there was some mighty heat to deal with. The radiating head from the cement below my feet with no respite of shade around just sucked. And that is putting it mildly. It is clear no one considered heat and even rain as possible scenarios to occur. Blows my mind.

    I wish we could use an undo button and return to what was there before. It was such a yawn. This is not better, not even a wash, but with certainly worse. I am going to say that even Irvine has more charm than the new space. It’s just a crime.

    1. I touched on it briefly, but didn’t want to fixate on the lack of shade since this was already long and I’ve complained about that repeatedly in other posts. Regardless, you’re 100% right. Also, I swear the new pavement they’re using in the former Future World just makes this walk hotter.

  9. Tom, I know you try to be fair in evaluating new experiences at the parks, so if you are this disappointed it must be bad. When I was there in March it wasn’t finished and I am dreading seeing it because I know I will feel let down.

    I can’t help wondering what the behind the scenes conversations are like at Disney. Do they expect people to be remotely excited about this? Or are they just counting on people being so relieved that Epcot is not a construction site any longer that they will accept anything ?

    1. “I can’t help wondering what the behind the scenes conversations are like at Disney. Do they expect people to be remotely excited about this?”

      It’s a mix.

      I talk to some people who drink the Kool-Aid and are surprised when they hear me say anything negative. Others are realists, who recognize the shortcomings of projects like this. Believe it or not, but Imagineers tend to fall in the latter category. It really shouldn’t be a huge surprise–artists are often most critical of their own work, noticing flaws others might miss. And in this case, there was also plenty of meddling, so it’s not as if this was the unadulterated work of artists, anyway.

      What I wonder is what those in Burbank really think about this. I have no clue, but am very curious.

  10. What happened to Zach Riddley? He used to post so much on IG hyping up all of the Epcot projects but has been radio silent…last post was 30 weeks ago.

  11. It all feels like such a lateral move from what we had before. Connections is wonderful, Creations was a side-grade, but CommuniCore Plaza/Hall almost feels like a downgrade from the old Innoventions spaces. I think the 3-story Festival Center was going to be a really interesting building. It didn’t fit EPCOT, but at least it was ambitious.

    Here’s hoping Test Track 3.0 is really good, but at the core of it, it’ll be the same ride with mostly the same beats.

    Personally, with the lackluster slate of new Disney World openings, the lack of a Premier pass, and nearly 90% of WDW’s content at DLR – I just don’t see a reason to visit WDW anytime soon again. I guess they’re happy to get my Disneyland money, but they used to easily double-dip, but at the end of it all, EPCOT, a park I love – the “overhaul” really feels like a total wash.

    1. “Connections is wonderful, Creations was a side-grade, but CommuniCore Plaza/Hall almost feels like a downgrade from the old Innoventions spaces. I think the 3-story Festival Center was going to be a really interesting building. It didn’t fit EPCOT, but at least it was ambitious.”

      Agree with all of this. Well, mostly. I’d stop short of calling Connections wonderful, but it was a very needed update that was well-handled. I’ll always miss the upstairs seating as well as the front outdoor seating with views of the Fountain of Nations, but still. It was time.

      I would definitely call CommuniCore Hall/Plaza, by itself, a downgrade from Innoventions West. However, I’d also say it’s only fair to bundle this with Journey of Water, since these two things replaced that. Collectively, I still think this is better…but it’s entirely carried by Journey of Water. If you just took half of that building and compared it to this, Innoventions probably wins. There had to have been a way to refresh it without going to all the effort of doing this.

      So much time and money for so little.

  12. This era is staring to remind me a little of the dreaded Pressler era in a way – with key differences. And to be fair there were some great things that came out during the turn of the millennia – just mostly not in the parks. You got Animal Kingdom Lodge and the Grand Californian, the non-cheaped out parts of AK, and things like Winter Summerland. Then again you had “The Wand”, “The Hat”, Journey into YOUR Imagination and Under New Management – things that almost everybody hated.

    The difference today seems to be doing things (like Island Tower and CommuniCore Hall) that nobody hates. Of course, nobody actually seems to like them either. So maybe they won’t have to tear them out in 10 or so years.

    1. I think we’d be in worse shape during this “era” if there weren’t so many good projects already in motion when COVID hit, if the parks didn’t overperform in 2021-2022, and if Epic Universe weren’t on the horizon to “motivate” Disney to do better.

      IMO, CommuniCore/World Celebration will be the only project of this caliber to come out of this era. If circumstances were just a little worse, we could’ve ended up with a full decade like this. It feels like we got unlucky…but in some ways, we probably just don’t realize how much worse things could’ve been, and for longer.

  13. What’s also sad is they plopped the statue of Walt right in the middle of such an uninspired space. It’s the antithesis of what he strived for.
    I remember seeing Imaginers giving Joe Rohde a tour of the area a few weeks ago. If that task were given to me, I think I would just quit Imagineering. I would not be able to look him in the eye and be like “this is what we….did.”

    1. I would love to hear Joe’s true thoughts of the space. I wish he would post an anonymous comment on here about how he really feels…and what could be/should be done to Epcot.

  14. I guess we will need to see it in person but I trust your take on most spaces so this is a major disappointment. Are we surprised though? This appears to be the way lately. Do not be surprised the refurb going on for the DVC lounge at Epcot will also be sad. Its current replacement is a complete joke.

    Guess Disney really wants Universal to lead the way when it comes to projects, new and old.

  15. The planter is the one thing I can’t get over. NOBODY in any meeting said it looks like a….. alright.. lol

  16. This project proves that OLC doesn’t just have open wallets! You can’t fix a project by throwing money at it without some sort of plan behind it with support from leadership to not to change the plan (repeatedly).
    I’ve got to agree with the lowering of expectations. I said earlier that I am happy that “Festival Favorites” doesn’t look like a temporary shack made permanent, and I am … even though that’s the best thing that can be said about the results.

    1. Everyone makes the mistake of assuming that OLC is simply free-spending.

      That’s not right at all. What they are is disciplined and focused. They are actively involved in the process, are very picky about which of Disney’s pitches they bite on, and (perhaps most importantly!) they don’t have a ton of distractions.

      What it must be like to have the top executives actually care about theme parks and not be worried about putting a ton of fires with streaming, gambling, studios, etc. etc.

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