10 Things We’ll Never Do Again at Disney World
Every Walt Disney World fan has a bucket list, but the smart ones also have lists of things we’ll never do again. This isn’t like our list of easy first-timer mistakes. Rather, these are things we’ve done and said to one another: “Wow, that was a stupid move on our part. Let’s avoid that at all costs in the future.” (Updated December 10, 2023.)
Truthfully, there are very few things at Walt Disney World that we’d never do again. Our bucket lists far longer than our “never again” lists, because most things at Walt Disney World are worth of a second chance. Menus at restaurants change, hotels are overhauled, and attractions are tweaked or re-imagined over time.
In fact, since we originally published this a few years ago, a lot has changed. Perhaps we should take the immortal words of celebrated thinker Justin Bieber to heart and “never say never.” Thankfully, Walt Disney World tends to listen to guest feedback and correct mistakes and experiences that score poorly on guest satisfaction surveys. Over the years, we’ve had to remove several things from this list because we’ve done them again (sometimes inadvertently or not by choice) and had dramatically different–and better–experiences…
To that point, we’ve removed different entries from the list:
- Dinner at Chef Mickey’s – We have a daughter now. There isn’t a single character meal at Walt Disney World that we won’t be doing in the near future. And you know what? I’m looking forward to (over)paying ~$150 for the three of us to do dinner at Chef Mickey’s again!
- Pay to Stay at Grand Floridian – The price is still absurd, so it’s likely we won’t be doing this much (especially given that we can use DVC points instead). With that said, our reason for not paying to stay at Grand Floridian was the mid-tier Marriott caliber rooms. Those are currently in the process of being transformed into something far, far nicer.
- Genie+ at EPCOT – The addition of Frozen Ever After and Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure to the Genie+ service, plus better availability for other attractions and a lower price at EPCOT takes this off the list. We still favor Early Entry or Extended Evening Hours, but we’re no longer as ardently anti-Genie+ at EPCOT.
- New Year’s Eve at Magic Kingdom – The last two times we did NYE or December 30 (basically the same) at Magic Kingdom, it went far better than expected. Of course, reservations are going away in 2024, so this could change again for the worse, but we wouldn’t hesitate to do it again…for now.
- Busy Buses at Coronado Springs – This was a huge problem in 2020-2022, due to a mixture of staffing shortages, reduced capacity on transportation, and Gran Destino Tower adding a ton of rooms to the resort. Thankfully, we didn’t experience the issue this year, presumably because pent-up demand is exhausted and resort occupancy is down. It could still be a problem from time-to-time, but not enough of one to make this list.
Another thing to note is that this list only covers things that are within our control to never do again at Walt Disney World. Over the years, the company has made the “choice” for us, by eliminating a lot of things that we’d otherwise love to do again. For example, we’d love to see a night parade or winter icicle lights on Cinderella Castle, but it seems that Disney might deny us the opportunity. We’ve also now taken our final ride on Disney’s Magical Express and redeemed our last FastPass.
Those are things we will technically never do again at Walt Disney World, but are very much not in the spirit of this list, which is more like “NEVER AGAIN!” What won’t we do again at Walt Disney World? Here are the top 10 things…
BONUS: All Stars During Youth Events – This is one we’d still strongly recommend that you avoid, so we’re not fully removing it from the list. However, in the last year-plus, I’ve stayed at All Star Sports during two youth events (couldn’t pass up the price, even if I knew I was playing with fire) and it honestly wasn’t that bad.
Part of this is probably that the worst youth event, the Pop Warner Championship, is no longer hosted at Walt Disney World. Another component is that we’ve heard Disney has become more ‘diligent’ about communicating to chaperones that groups need to be quiet after a certain hour. Maybe another is that the kids these days are better behaved??? (Nah.)
In any case, this becomes a ‘do as we say, not as we do’ entry on the list. If there’s a major youth sporting event at the ESPN Wide World of Sports complex, you should probably avoid all of the All Stars, but Sports at the very least. Basically, if you’re thinking of booking a Value Resort between February and May, consult this calendar–it can be a planner’s best friend and help “save your sleep schedule.”
Assembling this many under-supervised teens in one location is like feeding a Gremlin after midnight. There’s some sort of chemical or hormonal “thing” that happens, and then all hell breaks loose. Due to the reputation and complaints over the years, Disney security has done a better job in dealing with the teens in recent years (impromptu midnight practices are quickly broken up so I no longer have the need to literally yell “get off my lawn” to the kids), but this is still a scene to be avoided.
10. Beauty and the Beast Sing-Along – This is a tricky one. We came of age during the Disney Renaissance and are huge fans of Beauty and the Beast as a result. On top of that, we’re new parents who cannot wait to share the movie with our daughter. However, we also hate the Beauty and the Beast Sing-Along with the fiery passion of a thousand burning suns. I’ll spare you that rant again, but there’s a reason the Beauty and the Beast Sing-Along made our list of Things We Skip at EPCOT and is dead last on our rankings of all 91 attractions at Walt Disney World.
So this is a delicate needle to thread–making Megatron a big fan of Beauty and the Beast, while preventing her from ever learning of this atrocious show’s existence. One of my big fears is that we will suceed at the first, but fail at the second…which is a recipe for disaster. Instead of never doing this show again, we will do it every single time we visit EPCOT. It’ll become the attraction we do more than anything else at Walt Disney World. Our frequent viewership alone will single-handedly prop up guest utilization numbers and inadvertently help keep this show around. We will become the villains.
Here’s hoping that Walt Disney World has the good sense to retire this abomination before Megatron is of age to become “addicted” to entertainment and starts calling the shots, forcing us to see this sing-along endlessly. In the meantime, other parents, you’ve been warned: avoid Beauty and the Beast Sing-Along at all costs. It’s worse than the worst direct-to-video sequel, and even the authors of bad fanfic could’ve penned a better script.
9. Magic Kingdom on Monday During Party Season – This actually isn’t only Monday, that’s just the most succinct way of wording this. Magic Kingdom crowd dynamics during Party Season have been one of the key discussion points of our August through December crowd calendars for several years.
We’ve been strongly recommending that readers visit Magic Kingdom during the day on Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party and Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party nights, and then bouncing to another park at around 4 pm. Conversely, we’ve recommended avoiding Magic Kingdom on non-party days. The rationale for all of this is laid out in Least Crowded Days at Magic Kingdom, we aren’t going to belabor that point yet again.
One point we haven’t made nearly as much is the “danger” of visiting Magic Kingdom on a Monday (the busiest day of the week) at points during Party Season when it’s the only day during a 3-4 day stretch without MNSSHP or MVMCP. This is a double-whammy. Not only are the crowds consolidated away from the party-shortened days, but it’s also what’s regularly the busiest day of the week at Magic Kingdom. (See Best & Worst Days of the Week for Each Park at Walt Disney World.)
This happened on the Monday of Thanksgiving week, and it was an absolute nightmare. But we actually experienced it earlier during the Party Season on a Wednesday, which was the only day in a 5 day stretch without an event. Same can happen on select Saturdays. All of those days are absolutely brutal, and should be avoided.
If you do make the mistake of going–perhaps even on purpose as you want to see Magic Kingdom at night and it’s your only option–at least heed this one piece of advice: stay far away from Main Street before, during, and after the fireworks! It’s the only opportunity in a several day stretch to watch Happily Ever After, meaning that about 10x the number of guests who can safely fit on Main Street for the fireworks will want to watch from there. Seriously. It can get downright uncomfortable and feel unsafe. Watch from behind Cinderella Castle instead.
8. Genie+ at Animal Kingdom – This replaces Genie+ at EPCOT on this list, which I still wouldn’t purchase or recommend to the vast majority of guests due to the ridiculous amount of backtracking it requires (and among attractions that are incredibly spread out). However, the inclusion of Frozen Ever After or Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure does remove it from ‘worst things you can do at Walt Disney World’ status.
Genie+ has become more popular at Animal Kingdom in the second half of 2023 due to the introduction of per-park pricing. Consequently, Animal Kingdom is now the “cheapest” park and many guests view it as a “good deal” as a result. We beg of you: do not be fooled by this.
Even on busier days, you do not need Genie+ at Animal Kingdom with even a scintilla of strategizing. Regular readers of this site know this, as we’ve hammered home time and time again that Genie+ is a waste of money at Animal Kingdom. This is discussed in countless posts, including in our Best Time-Saving Strategies for Walt Disney World, which says all you need to know for DAK is “don’t go during the middle of the day and stand in long lines.”
Seriously, that’s about it. Arriving early or staying late work perfectly fine for beating the crowds because most guests still treat it like a half-day park and attendance is significantly lower at Animal Kingdom than any other park at Walt Disney World. As a result, a lower advertised base price for Genie+ by virtue of Animal Kingdom is almost meaningless. This is especially true on days when Animal Kingdom is under $20–crowd levels are never bad enough on those dates to justify Genie+ in the first place!
6. Pandora or Star Wars Lands Midday – There are a few components to this. First is crowds, which are always chaotic and take away from enjoying the details that define both Pandora – World of Avatar and Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. These two lands absolutely beg to be explored, and stressed out crowds and people going in every which way impede anyone’s ability to truly soak up these lands. The environments and layers of lived-in detail and storytelling are so key for appreciating both.
Plus, the long lines during the middle of the day certainly don’t help. This isn’t just triple-digit waits for the attractions, either. Walkways and shops become congested, and it’s more difficult to see everything as a result. At Galaxy’s Edge, good luck meeting the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda if you’re trying to do so midday!
Second, you’re running a risk if rain is in the forecast. Both lands are huge, but also have few indoor areas that are large and easily accessible if the weather takes a turn for the worse. Adding insult to injury, they are a bit isolated from the rest of their respective parks (or in the case of Galaxy’s Edge, right next door to another popular land with very little covered space). In short, if it starts raining in either and you’re not already inside, you will get wet. Your options for quickly ducking indoors are limited if not nonexistent.
Finally, there’s the simple reality that Pandora and Galaxy’s Edge are best at the beginning and end of the day. The morning light flitters through the trees, kisses the mountains, and gives greater depth and dimension to the rockwork. It’s like going from standard television to high definition, as all of the details are clearer and stand out.
Both lands also take on new dimension once the sun goes down. Pandora’s bioluminescence and organic life comes alive in the evening, and it truly feels like another planet. The setting is enchanted, and evokes what I can only imagine an alien forest is like. At night, Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge has a spooky and serene sense to it, except in the marketplace where a variety of beautiful light fixtures give added texture and depth to everything.
This might seem like an exaggeration, but you truly have not experienced Pandora or Galaxy’s Edge if you’ve never done them at night. It’s not just like standard to high def–it’s more like going from listening to the radio to watching in IMAX.
BONUS: Midday Standby at Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance – Similar idea as the above, but the problem here is unique enough to warrant its own (bonus) entry. Wait time inflation at Walt Disney World is a real thing, and we think it has gotten worse with the launch of Genie+ and Lightning Lanes. Whether that has nefarious motivations or not is a different debate for another day. (See Why Certain Walt Disney World Rides Can Have WORSE Actual Wait Times Than Posted.)
We can safely say that Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance is notorious for having the least-accurate wait times in all of Walt Disney World. Quite often, especially around park opening and late in the day, the wait times are significantly inflated. We’ve experienced posted wait times that are more than double the actual wait times we’ve experienced. (There have been instances of triple posted vs. actual wait times!) However, that is not always the case.
One thing we’ve learned is that doing Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance via standby during the middle of the day is playing with fire. This is especially true when the posted wait time is over 120 minutes, we’ve found. The reason for this is because the Galaxy’s Edge headliner–and #1 attraction in all of Walt Disney World–is still prone to breakdowns. The longer the line, the higher the likelihood of a ride breakdown.
But that isn’t the only issue. After all, Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance has been unreliable since opening, so you’d think that Walt Disney World could build a ‘cushion’ into posted wait times to account for the downtime to some degree, right? (They do. That’s precisely why the wait times are often significantly inflated!)
The real problem is that Disney sells Individual Lightning Lane access to Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance, and that does not take downtime into account. Meaning that when the ride reopens, there is a huge backlog of guests who have paid $20+ per person to skip the line at the attraction. And guess what? They are still entitled to that, resulting in a Lightning Lane to standby ratio that is way more skewed to Lightning Lane than normal. This causes the actual standby wait time to skyrocket…and that’s on top of whatever downtime you might’ve endured.
There are two takeaways here. First, don’t do Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance during the middle of the day when wait times are the highest as you’re betting big when it comes to ride breakdowns. Second, if the ride does go down while you’re in the standby line, get out unless you’re very close to the front of the line (you’ve already spent at least 30 minutes in the caves). Don’t make yourself a victim of the sunk-cost fallacy! For more advice to doing the attraction with lower wait times, see our Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance Ride Guide.
5. Summit Plummet – Despite my claim for years that I’m good on this, when we visited Blizzard Beach this year, I did Summit Plummet again. Almost as soon as it began, the realization washed over me like water that I had made a terrible mistake. To borrow the immortal words of Roger Murtaugh: I’m too old for this slide.
This is the only attraction on this list, and the reason for that is that we think people should judge attractions for themselves, because everyone has different preferences. (For example, there are probably a few of you who don’t like Country Bear Jamboree. That’s fine–some people don’t like masterpieces like The Godfather and Citizen Kane, either.)
For me, Summit Plummet at Blizzard Beach water park is something that’s moderately enjoyable and I’m glad it exists, because it looks really cool and is a great water slide concept…but once was enough. From the insanely long line to the feeling of pure terror to the crazy wedgie, I’m good on it for one lifetime. Actually, I’ll probably do it when I’m 65, against my better judgment once more, just to feel young and reckless again. 😉
4. “Improperly Pack” – This is somewhat of a blanket statement because it’s a mistake I’ve made repeatedly in different ways. Basically, I have a propensity to simultaneously under and over-pack, and bring clothing for the weather I want rather than the weather that’s actually forecast.
For example, I have a tendency to pack shorts and polos for winter trips–a mistake I’ve made as recently as last year, even despite having written our Winter Packing Tips for Disney. For early fall trips, I’ve been known to bring jeans and button-downs, even when the weather is still sweltering. Beyond that, I leave behind practical items I end up missing to avoid overpacking, while bringing pointless stuff “just in case” that I never use.
Unfortunately, I don’t have an elephant-caliber memory…or I try to convince myself that “it’ll be different this time” (for reasons unknown), only to have history repeat itself. In other words, I say this is a mistake I’ll never make again…but I almost certainly will. Fortunately, there’s now a UNIQLO at Disney Springs, and that store has bailed me out many times!
3. Food & Wine Festival on a Weekend – We want to start out by saying that we really enjoy Epcot’s Food & Wine Festival…but we don’t love it on weekends. Ever been to a UCF frat party? Well, if you answered “no”, it’s not too late!
Weekend evenings are prime time for college students with disposable incomes to descend upon the Festival to get sloshed. For them, it sure beats drinking Old Style in a dank basement (like we did in college), but that atmosphere plus the huge crowds can make this the least pleasant time to be at Food & Wine Festival.
Weekdays during the festival are far more enjoyable. It’s also far more enjoyable to attend Food & Wine in mid-November when the temperatures and humidity are more bearable, but we invariably attend in September because that’s usually when we visit for Halloween.
BONUS: Italy Booth – If not “required” for the sake of research, we’d never do the Italy booth at any festival ever again. The kiosk is notorious for high prices, elementary school cafeteria-inspired cuisine, and just a startling lack of ambition. If you enjoy paying $10 for a sample-sized version of microwaved TV dinners, Italy is a great option. If not, stay far away.
2. Rainforest Cafe – How this restaurant still has multiple locations around the United States, much less multiple locations in Walt Disney World, defies logic. The food is awful, and the ambiance reminds me of 1980s-relic ShowBiz Pizza Place, but “modernized” for the 1990s and devoid of character/charm.
The dark cloud that hangs over Rainforest Cafe almost extended to cast a shadow over T-Rex Cafe for me. Fortunately, I gave that a chance because dinosaurs, and was pleasantly surprised. If you are thinking, “but our kids love Rainforest Cafe!” consider taking them to T-Rex instead.
1. Leave Early – Nighttime is when the parks come alive with beautiful lighting and enchanting ambiance. It’s also when the weather starts to cool and lines start to die down. From a practical perspective, nights are now more advantageous than mornings, with lower wait times in the last couple of hours of the night than in the first couple hours after rope drop.
On top of that, one of my favorite “attractions” is strolling through World Showcase after Epcot’s fireworks end, just soaking up the ambiance, listening to the music, and seeing the stunning architecture. I’d rather do this for an hour than spend 8 daylight hours in the park. Same goes for wandering along the Rivers of America in Magic Kingdom or being bathed in the neon glow of Tomorrowland.
BONUS: Sleep In – We stress this so much on the blog that it’s probably becoming cliche. However, it’s good advice–especially if you’re staying on-site and are eligible for Early Entry. There’s no better way to beat the crowds at most parks (see our Top Time-Saving Strategies for Walt Disney World for a rundown of the best & worst ways to avoid long lines.) Basically, we would never not be tired at Walt Disney World again. Well, that’s not true–midday naps are a game-changer if you can manage them.
Beyond a couple of other restaurants that are blacklisted (for now), attractions we avoid for personal reasons, and lands that are dead to me *cough*Dino-Rama*cough* that’s about it. Hopefully you can learn from some of our mistakes…or find solace in knowing that we have made these same mistakes as you. Think of this as a support group for those who have been awoken at 2 a.m. at All Star Sports by a cheer practice or who have dropped $200 on a family “dinner” at Rainforest Cafe. Share your own “NEVER AGAIN!” items in the comments–venting can be therapeutic!
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Your Thoughts
What things at Walt Disney World would you never do again? Is any restaurant, resort, or ride beyond redemption for you? Any time of year you’d never visit? Do you agree or disagree with our list? Would you do any of these things again? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
I used I say that about Small World too. Went on it when my kids were little and couldn’t stand it. Then this month I went to Magic Kingdom with my oldest who is now 40 and my grandaughter is 12. Went on Small World to get out of the heat and loved all the detail of the costuming and decorations. The song didn’t even get stuck in my head. I guess it is true…never say never.
Hey! We LOVE Epcot for new years! Lots of dancing! The bathroom lines are long, but I’ve found they move fast. Just don’t wait until the last minute to get in the line. We are not fussed about seeing the fireworks from a perfect location, so it’s not a hassle for us. That being said, I completely agree with most of this list.
We have the advantage of being local so weekend are our “avoid at all cost”. Far, far busier on the weekends. We also avoid the traditional spring break times of week before, week of, week after Easter.
I’m concerned about the chaos that can be (so I’ve read) when dealing with the Pop Warner crowd. Family and I were in Disney last year for the first week of December and didn’t see much of them (presumably, I’m guessing, because we were at AKL).
This year to cut back on costs a bit, we are opting to stay at Pop Century. Does anyone know if Pop Century is overrun by this Pop Warner crowd due to the price structure? Or is it ever used as an overflow for them when rooms run out at the 3 All Star hotels?
Appreciate any insight you all can provide. To be honest…if its a bad call on our part…I’ll switch to a different resort now while the trip is still months away.
Thanks everyone!!
Overrun is putting it mildly. One year we stayed at Port Orleans Riverside during Pop Warner. We arrived at 1130pm and the cheerleader were having contests to see who could scream the loudest. It was Downhill from there. And I understood that All Stars was even worse. We have resolved this issue by scheduling our trips to depart as they arrive! The parks are not awful as the kids are busy during the day. Just be careful about where you stay.
I was weary about staying at Pop Century the first and second weekends in December last year due to the football/ cheerleader crowds and was pleasantly surprised. We hardly saw them and never heard them. When we did see them on the bus they were kind to my kids and always offered to give up their seats to others.
Clearly I am in the minority, but we went to Chef Mickey’s and loved it. Because of the napkin twirling and the characters coming out to dance, we got a LOT more interaction than at other character meals. While the food was not memorable, I wasn’t paying for food at any of the character meals – I was paying to sit in AC with food while awaiting characters, rather than standing in endless boring lines in the sun. I entertained my child in the sun in so many character lines….the meals were much better and Chef Mickey’s was the best. Sorry to all of you who do not have a MMCH-obsessed 3-year-old…
We LOVE Disney, we have been there many times and plan on going again, I do agree completely with your list, I of course have my own list of add ons, main one is I will try very hard to never leave anything behind at Disney, in Jan this year we left our daughters baby blanket that she had since she was a baby, she is 11 years old so it means a lot when she still takes it with her overnight, well we forgot it in the room wrapped up in blankets, well we drive there and discovered it was missing an hour after we left resort, I called right away, come to find out that the resort does not do the laundry at the facility, they send it out, fine, I talked to multiple people, multiple departments, passed around and around, kept being told they will put me on the lost and found list and to continue to check back periodically, so I called about 2x a week, we had some leads I asked them to send me a picture so I could identify it, they said they could not do that, also I at one time while crying offered to fly there and help search for this important item and they said that I could not do that because i am not an employee of Disney, well to make a long story short after a phone call to them a few months later, I was told that they may nave found it but due to the time period they probably donated it to charity, my daughter and I still have nightmares about this, she said she will never stay at that resort again.. Heart broken!!
sorry this happened to you. My son in law left an entire dresser drawer full of his clothes there and once we got home, we called. Disney was superb. His clothing was not only mailed postage free back to us but washed and pressed too! Dont know what happened in your case, but we cannot say anything negative. We were pleasantly surprised. What a shame for your loss.
I hate to admit there are things I’d put on my “NEVER DO AGAIN” list since I love WDW so very much…but, yeah, there are things I’d be ok with never doing again.
1. I have to agree about Chef Mickey’s. The food is definitely not great. It’s really cute when Mickey & Co. come out to see the kids, but I don’t think the cuteness factor justifies the price when the food is iffy. I can’t truly say I’d never do it again bc my son really loved it…and I guess you’re paying more for the experience than the food…I think…right? I just think the food is way better at someplace like the Crystal Palace.
2. Going to Animal Kingdom on a hot day is, to me, miserable. I know it’s not actually any hotter at Animal Kingdom than it is at Epcot or MK, but it certainly feels that way. I last visited WDW last September. The day we went to AK wasn’t any hotter than the other days we were at WDW, but it sure felt that way. We actually wound up leaving by noon and just heading back to our resort to cool off in the pool. I can tolerate the Florida heat in any of the other parks, but I just can’t seem to do it at AK.
3. I stayed at the Contemporary when I visited last September. Every other time I’ve ever been to WDW, I have always arrived in the morning. Last time, though, I took a 6pm flight out of NYC because of my work schedule. I figured it would be fine getting to the resort at 11pm because I know the check-in counter is open 24/7, so no big deal. When I arrived at the Contemporary, though, nobody was there. A very disheveled man made his way to the counter after I’d been there for 10 minutes or so and proceeded to mumble so much that I had no idea what he was saying. He actually seemed really annoyed to be helping me. I was wondering if maybe I had woken him up or something. It was very uncharacteristic of any WDW employee I’ve ever dealt with in the past. It was weird to walk into a WDW resort and not instantly feel welcome. Maybe it was the late hour (even though it wasn’t TOO late…people were still returning from the parks/Disney Springs when we arrived), but it wasn’t the “magical” start to a WDW vacation I’d been used to having.
4. I actually don’t think I would stay at the Contemporary again. The main reason I chose to stay there last time is its location. I had my 2 year old son with me, so I wanted to be able to hop back and forth between the resort and MK, which is where we were going to spend the bulk of our time. Don’t get me wrong, the resort itself is very nice…clean, well-kept, etc…and I loved the 10 minute walk from the resort to the MK. However, as nice a resort as it is, it didn’t feel like a WDW resort to me. There was just some sort of magic missing that I always feel when staying someplace like Port Orleans or Caribbean Beach. I also didn’t love the food court area, the Contempo Cafe. It’s really small considering how large the resort is (we had trouble finding seating most days and had to kinda lurk until a table opened up) and didn’t have nearly the same variety of options as the food courts at other resorts. The food we had there was good, of course, but I typically stay at Port Orleans, so I guess I’m just used to the style of Boatwright’s.
5. I was also pretty disappointed after riding the Barnstormer. My sister and I ran on when the line was particularly short (I think it was during a parade), and I’m glad we didn’t wait as long as I know others have waited. The ride was over before I’d realized it had begun. Seriously, when we returned to the loading platform, I was confused. It was fun while it lasted (all 20 seconds), but definitely not worth any more than a 15 minute wait!
These really are pretty minor complaints in the grand scheme of things. I love WDW with all my heart and there are certainly waaaaaaaay more wonderful things about it than “eh” things. So, I hope the above comments don’t deter anyone from trying any of the things or places I mentioned. The best way to know whether or not you’ll like something is if you try it yourself.
I feel the EXACT same way about AK!!! So much so that we are actually skipping it our next trip and stuck an extra MK day in place of it. We bailed out by noon last visit because everyone… kids and grandparents included, were miserable. I’m sure we will go back again when the littles are older and def when it isn’t scorching.
I apologize if you elaborated more in another article, please link me if so, but can you describe what you mean by “chaotic” when you tried to do Flights of Passage at rope drop or closing? Honestly, that was going to be my strategy too if I was one of the unlucky ones that didn’t get a FP so I would like to know what to expect. Thanks in advance for any replies. By the way, my contribution to the question, I’ll never again waste Fast Passes on character meets or good spots for the parades, no more chef Mickey, and unless it’s to specifically have time inside an empty park, no more morning reservations that cost you precious time getting a lot done with touring before crowds come in!
We did Flight of passage at rope drop last June only a couple months after Pandora opened up. I did not feel as though it was chaotic whatsoever. Yes there were a lot of people there but there the cast members made sure that everything was well organized and my family members only waited about 20 min to get on while I waited outside with the baby. I would highly recommend going at rope drop because this is a ride that you DO NOT want to miss out on!
I agree, did the same early June of this year. Got there an hour before it opened, using Lyft. An organized line, separated those staying onsite from those not. We were done quickly.
I agree on all of your list but would add a few times to avoid as follows.
Cheerleading championship
Brazil or similar days. One person gets on a ride line then 30 of them jump the line claiming they are all together. This happened in multiple trips. Never again !
Yep…The Brazillian crowd is my #1 thing to avoid if possible.
when is the Brazilian crowd in town? I need to avoid this because I’m sure I would not be very magical if 30-some people tried to get in front of me.
YES!! we just visited over the week of July 4th, expecting crazy crowds but unaware of the Brazilian teens. Everywhere we went, they were there, in their matching t-shirts, pushing and shoving, congesting lines, blocking sidewalks, chanting, shouting, and singing at the top of their lungs. While waiting in the hour-long Splash Mountain line (remember, this is during the heat of July) AT LEAST 200 kids filed through the FastPass line. How Disney issued that many FastPasses, I will never understand, but in addition to all the other FastPass guests, came alllllll these chanting teens, who delayed the ride even longer. For the Happily Ever After show, my husband and I found the viewing garden was nearly empty. We picked a nice spot with an unobstructed view. Minutes before the show started, the teens flooded into the garden and tried to push us out of the way. Fortunately, a cast member saw our struggle and snuck us to a reserved area so we could actually see. Never again!
We would 100% agree about AVOIDING WDW during the time the kids are there w cheerleading competition at ESPN! We’ve found this typically in May. But, that group doesn’t sound as disrespectful or disruptive as the group you referenced in December!
We have also experience very disrespectful behaviors when there’s a large group of Brazilians in WDW. That is in NO WAY being prejudiced!! Actually, I’m AMAZED how some of the ladies can manage walking all day in heels that they are in and still have their make up looking as beautiful as they do! But, jumping ahead of you in line is out of control!
We tried to stroll through the World Showcase at night when Epcot has EMH. Little did we know that the World Showcase does not stay open late. We all were very disappointed!
Go in jan. Won’t do that again. We’ve been there several times in Oct and once late Feb. For our kids first time it was so cold it really took out a lot of the fun. And we live where its 20-30 below! If im going to spend the money on a disney trip for 6 of us it better be warm. Lol. Also I won’t spend the money on a moderate resort again. Loved the value resort so much more!
Completely agree with your Chef Mickey comment, we thought it was awful. Went for dinner, good was awful and several of the workers (photo takers) were completely uninterested in being there. We have been to Disney World multiple times and were “warned” not to go, but curiosity finally got the best of us, and we went. Never, ever again!
Yes!! I cant believe the number of people who love Chef Mickeys. Last time we went, we did the meal plan thinking it was a great deal….maybe for some families, but we are a family of 6….at the time of our trip our kids were 9,7,4 and 1. Little did i know they charge a mAndatory gratuity (20 percent i think) on all meals with a party of 6….even though one was a baby…just 13 months….was hardly eating table food and slept through most meAls)!! All the character buffets were outrageous as a result but chef mickeys wAs the worst. Bad food, bad service and then we were handed a bill for a $40 gratuity on top of it!
Na’vi River Journey is the one attraction I wouldn’t ride again. I am glad I jumped on it late at night with a 10 minute wait because if I had to wait longer for that ride I would have been very upset. It’s beautiful but not worth long waits. If you want to experience it for yourself head over right at the end of the night!
BUT without Din O Rama there would be no primeval whirl!
I’ll never wait for a resort bus after park closing again. Last June we stayed at Pop Century and the buses were awful to and from the parks. There simply weren’t enough buses. A couple of times we went to the Art of Animation stop and walked through. Coming out of MK we’d waited for 30 minutes after Happily Ever After and still stood in the bus line for an hour.
Spend $$$$$$ to take my sister and her whole family on a trip with us. She needed to bring $0 and all she did was complain. In her eyes, transportation took to long, lines were too long (20 minutes max), too crowded, food too expensive (she wasn’t paying for it. I had bought DX dining plan) I ended up crying at my happy place and hubby had to become a referee. I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone. After that trip, we decided to never treat anyone to another all expense paid vacation. Disney itself is amazing and I can’t think of anything I wouldn’t try again.
Dee, I’m so sorry that happened! My sister is like that too. Everything is provided for her by my family and she is still so ungrateful about things. AND she’s 5 years older than me. Never treat anyone to Disney who won’t appreciate it. It’s a treasure and you don’t need anyone’s negativity crapping all over it. Never take her again and have a GREAT time
I’ve been there too! Never again will I go with my family. It was a dream of mine to go in December to see all the decorations and my family (mostly my sister) completely ruined it.
I did the same thing! NEVER again! Still 15 years later, she still complains about the trip.
I can’t believe anyone could be so ungrateful as to complain about a free trip to Disney! Even when I’m paying $$$$ I happily suck up the long lines and crowds just to be there. If someone was generous enough to treat me to a trip heck- I’d walk from hotel to parks if need be!! Sorry your trip was made a little less magical due to your sister- next time will be all the more enjoyable for you. I wish I had a sis as generous as you!
1) Stay at Caribbean Beach Resort. Construction did not bother us. The place is just too big. Tto much bussing to go anywhere.
2) The Up bird show at Animal Kingdom. We liked it better before they revamped it.
3) Waiting until the last minute to find a viewing location for the Magic Kingdom projection and fireworks show.
I just wait for a rainy night and schedule animal kingdom for that day and bring a poncho. 1) its my favourite Disney experience to walk around at night at both animal kingdom or Epcot in the rain. 2) The park clears out and if you get on flight of passage about half hour before park closing you can usually ride it twice. I have done this twice now. Once in November and once in march, got in line and waited about 15 min even tho the sign still says an hour and a half wait. Then jumped in line again for the last ride with no wait at all. One time I went back for rope drop the next morning and it was a 4 hour line still with the line out to the tree. So it works at busy times as well.
I have ridden Avatar: Flight of Passage at least 15 times and only one of those times with a Fastpass. Being a local and not staying on property, Fastpasses are pretty much a no go for this attraction, so it’s either suck it up and stand in line or never get to go on my absolute favorite ride of all time. I will say that the wait times listed near closing are always over exaggerated – always. For instance, I was there two nights ago – the posted wait time was 110 minutes at 9:52pm (closing at 10:30pm) when I got in line, and I was on the ride (not in the pre-shows, but actually straddling the mechanical Banshee) 54 minutes later. I think that they give exaggerated wait times at night to discourage people from getting in line and keeping the attraction operating hours after the park closes – that’s just my opinion. So my advice is, don’t fool with the running of the bulls at rope drop. Go to Pandora at night right before the park closes – I have never waited more than an hour despite the posted wait time.
Any week during Pop Warner, Cheerleading etc. Worst vacation I have ever. Disney or otherwise. Go on It’s a Small World, never again even if they paid me. Eat at Kona Cafe. Go VERY sick a few years ago from eating there and just can’t ever go back.
This is just my opinion, but even if you don’t like “It’s a Small World,” it’s still a very short queue for a cool ride. By cool, I mean literally… it’s a good place to cool down!
I used I say that about Small World too. Went on it when my kids were little and couldn’t stand it. Then this month I went to Magic Kingdom with my oldest who is now 40 and my grandaughter is 12. Went on Small World to get out of the heat and loved all the detail of the costuming and decorations. The song didn’t even get stuck in my head. I guess it is true…never say never.
My controversial list of never agains in Disney World:
1) Space Mountain – an in the dark crazy mouse style roller coaster is not worth the wait or the FastPass
2) Interpark transportation (monorail, buses, boats) at closing to our resort– we found paying $10 for an Uber was 1000Xs better than waiting 45 minutes for a monorail or bus
3) Na’vi Boat Ride — Easily the most boring ride I have ever been on.
4) Chef Mickeys
5) Spaceship Earth — the perfect place to take a nap — pretty dated ride
6) The Barnstormer — Disney should be ashamed of itself
I am not curmudgeon, I love almost everything else in Disney World — these six really got my goat last time.
That’s funny that you included The Barnstormer. My three boys (ages 5, 6, and 8 when we were last there) just LOVED the Barnstormer. We probably rode it close to a dozen times over the couple of days we spent at Magic Kingdom during our last trip. It helped that the lines were usually very short.
One of our favorite memories was on Barnstormer when heavy rain broke out – – it felt like someone was spraying a hose right at us — we still laugh about it!