Genie+ Price Plummets Post-Peak of Spring Break at Disney World
Genie+ reached a new record high price at Walt Disney World during the weeks around Easter 2023, before plummeting post-peak of spring break. This post covers when the paid FastPass service sold out (and didn’t!), crowds, Lightning Lane availability, and our commentary about this pricing structure and what it could mean going forward. (Updated April 15, 2023.)
For starters, let’s talk crowds. That the week leading of Easter was busy should come as little surprise. Our Spring Break 2023 Crowd Calendar for Walt Disney World predicted that this past week would be the second-worst of spring break. As discussed in our most recent report on wait times and crowds in the parks, that likely will be wrong–because we’re now expecting Easter week to be worse.
During the peak of the Easter holiday at Walt Disney World, crowd levels hit 10/10 with an average wait time at Walt Disney World of 59-61 minutes. That may not seem bad if you’re thinking about headliners, but it’s the average–factoring in perpetual low waits for films and walkthroughs with thrill rides. We’ll be back with a full post mortem crowd report on spring break, but it was more or less as expected.
April 15, 2023 Update: The Genie+ service was first priced at $35 on April 4. Between then and April 6, Genie+ sold out–that’s three consecutive days. On all three of those days, the service sold out at or around 10 am. For those keeping score at home, April 6 was a new record for the earliest Genie+ has ever sold out, going unavailable at around 9:45 am.
Previously, our expectation was that prices would drop over the weekend of Easter. As we noted back when originally published this, during previous weeks of spring break, wait times peaked between Monday and Wednesday, with Thursday plateauing and Friday starting the downward trend before significant drops Saturday afternoon and throughout Sunday. Genie+ has tended to follow suit, with lower prices Friday through Sunday (which is essentially the opposite of how the service had been priced last Christmas season).
However, that did not happen. Genie+ has not sold out since April 6, but wait times have declined significantly. As predicated, the Saturday and Sunday of Easter weekend were significantly less busy than the heart of the week leading up to the holiday. Despite that, the price of Genie+ held at $35. That continued throughout the most recent week, which was still technically part of the spring break season, but is post-peak.
Finally, the price of Genie+ has plummeted today and is now back down at “only” $25 per person. This amounts to a drop of $10 overnight, which is the largest decrease we’ve ever seen for the Genie+ service–another new record! (Although this “record” feels like one about which no one will care.) It’s also still $10 higher than the paid FastPass service was at this time last year, and $25 higher than FastPass+ cost ($0).
From our perspective, the more interesting angle of this news is the fact that Genie+ prices did not drop last week. Based on crowd levels and past pricing precedent, Genie+ should’ve been reduced to the $22 to $29 range last weekend and throughout the past week, with most dates at $25 or $29. What we’re seeing today is really just a delayed reduction of what should’ve occurred gradually (and did as other busy weeks wound down.)
Again, that was post-peak of spring break, which is relatively common knowledge–including internally at Walt Disney World, as reflected in pretty much all other pricing schemes. So it’s not like their forecasts were predicting attendance and they got caught by surprise when crowds were lower. (And even if they did at first, they could’ve reduced the price of Genie+ by mid-week.)
There are a few possibilities as to why Walt Disney World maintained the $35 price point for the last week. One possibility is that the company has found the “sweet spot” for pricing during popular tourist seasons, and it’s $35. Another is that price points have been “reset” and $35 is now the baseline for busier days, with the number only going higher when we enter the next big holiday season. (Thankfully, no week as busy as Easter should arrive until October or November.)
A final possibility is that, after 3 huge days when Genie+ sold out so quickly, Walt Disney World decided to “set it and forget it” until the end of spring break season. That technically happens on April 17, but with the weird weekend fall off we’ve been observing thus far in 2023, the price was instead (appropriately) lowered today instead. The fact that the price dropped down to $25 rather than ‘stair-stepping’ down to $29 first is itself slightly reassuring (although given anticipated crowd levels the next two days, $22 would be more keeping with pre-April 2023 precedent).
Regardless, it’ll be interesting to watch Genie+ pricing play out over summer and into the holiday season. If crowd levels on April 9 or 13 justified $35 pricing for Genie+ (and that wasn’t just a ‘set it and forget it’ oversight), there are going to be a lot of $35 days this summer. More importantly for fans of the Halloween and Christmas season, it’s possible–if not probable–that there are days when Genie+ hits $50 in October through December.
Anyway, what follows is our original commentary about Genie+ pricing, availability, and so forth at Walt Disney World…
I bought and tested Genie+ one day that it sold out and others when it (presumably) came close during spring break, and it was a mix of good and bad. On a positive note, Lightning Lane availability was much better than I had expected–or experienced on past peak dates.
However, Genie+ did not work better at EPCOT or Disney’s Hollywood Studios than conventional strategy. On top of that, the return lines for Lightning Lanes were longer than normal (discussed at length in What Went Wrong During Spring Break at Disney World) and I ended up spending significantly more on Genie+ than the last time I did a week of testing. For me, the negatives outweighed the positives–except at Magic Kingdom (as usual).
When it comes to commentary, the short and simple of it is that there’s a certain amount of price inelasticity when it comes to paid line-skipping. Most guests who don’t balk at the $29 price point also are unlikely to be dissuaded from buying the service when it’s priced at $35.
With that said, we’re now getting to the point where that may no longer be true for many guests. It wasn’t that long ago that Walt Disney World switched to date-based pricing for the Genie+ service; prior to that, every day was priced at $15 plus tax. Many of the people traveling today likely planned their trips back then, budgeting for the old price.
That means the $35 price amounts to an increase of over $20 (post-tax) per person. For a family of 4, that’s a difference of more than $80 per day. That could be a significant added expense in the grand scheme of things, especially since the Genie+ price increase did not occur in a vacuum–everything else increased, too.
However, it is still not a major cost when compared to the cost of a Walt Disney World vacation as a whole, which has been precisely my concern with the company incrementally increasing prices like this, in search of a ceiling. I’m not sure they’re going to find one anytime soon, and worry about where it could eventually end up.
In a nutshell, my position is that demand for Genie+ is relatively inelastic with incrementally higher prices for the line-skipping service. This is because Genie+ is still a relatively minor cost in the grand scheme of the price of a Walt Disney World vacation.
Think about it this way: if you spent $8,000 for your family to visit Walt Disney World and were willing to pay peak season room rates for hotels and tickets, are you going to balk at paying a few dollars extra to avoid long lines and crowds? Or are you going to spend ~$80 more for your family to have Genie+ and “ensure” your experience is good and that $8,000 wasn’t wasted?
Worse wait times creates a higher incentive for bypassing lines, meaning higher uptake of Genie+ even when it costs more. Demand for beating crowds increases as crowds increase, and as such, Genie+ will always be a relatively small price to pay in the grand scheme of things.
Complain as they might, most people will reluctantly fork over the extra money rather than risk a bad trip. They’ve already spent so much–what’s another “few dollars” on top of a multi-thousand dollar trip if it’ll offer a competitive advantage?! (Another way to think of Genie+ is like an insurance policy–it’s not cheap, but $80 is a small price for peace of mind to safeguard the value of that $8,000 vacation.)
In various ways, we’ve seen all of this play out for years with date-based pricing on everything else at Walt Disney World. Whether it be for park tickets, resorts, or the Genie+ service, date-based pricing is an effective way for the company to accomplish its desired optimizations at Walt Disney World. There are certain times of year that experience higher demand for a number of reasons–school schedules, seasonal events, weather, etc.
Charging incrementally higher prices for these times of year allows Walt Disney World to capitalize on and profit from that inherently higher demand. That’s the goal–not preserving the guest experience or whatever the talking point might be. Increasing prices on that quasi-captive audience is simply savvy business or opportunism, depending upon your perspective. I could go on and on. This already isn’t exactly an “in a nutshell” explanation as promised, so I’ll cut it short. (Sorry, it’s a sore subject for me and I let myself get carried away.)
The alternative to continually incrementally increasing prices in search of a ceiling is determining a fair price that balances demand with guest satisfaction, and letting Genie+ sell out at that level. Due to the aforementioned price inelasticity, who knows what the limit is for Genie+ during peak season.
When it moved to date-based pricing, I was inclined to believe $25 would be the magic number. As I sit here today, I truly wonder how much sales would even slow down at $40 or $50. People are willing to throw a lot of money at making problems on vacation go away; long lines and high wait times are the ultimate problem at Walt Disney World.
The problem with that line of thinking is that it also comes with higher expectations. I still remember the first two months after Genie+ first launched up until the week of Thanksgiving; it worked amazingly well and was priced at $15 per person after tax. Even then, diehard fans were understandably upset at going from free FastPass+ to paid line-skipping.
Today, Genie+ is more than double that price, and most average tourists will score fewer worthwhile Lightning Lanes. But at the same time, their expectations for a $35 per person expense will be significantly higher. This isn’t idle speculation; we’ve seen exactly this happen as costs have increased all around Walt Disney World. Guests didn’t magically become more entitled, stressed out, etc–it was all a direct result of higher prices and rising expectations resulting therefrom.
With this comes greater tensions among everyone (guests and Cast Members; guests and other guests), which negatively impacts the overall mood. (Not to go on too much of a tangent, but this is one of the great things about Disneyland–everything is much more laid back and lower stakes, and the energy is obviously different and better as a result.)
Unsurprisingly, that also impacts guest satisfaction scores and intent to return metrics. Since his return, Bob Iger has taken a keen interest in this, already empowering leaders at Walt Disney World and Disneyland to make changes and roll back previously-made and unpopular decisions. Genie+ pricing would seem to fit squarely within that initiative.
Ultimately, there’s no easy fix to this issue for Walt Disney World. No perfect solution exists that balances supply and demand and keeps everyone happy (both those who purchase Genie+ and those who opt against it). There’s also the company’s obvious and understandable short-term “desire” to maximize revenue and profits, which is precisely how it ended up on the current path–going from free FastPass to Genie+ costing $35 per person per day (plus tax).
It will be interesting to see whether Genie+ increasing by $6 overnight–and costing over $20 more than it did during these same dates last year–moves the needle on demand, sales, or anything else in a meaningful way. Personally, I’m skeptical. I think Genie+ will still sell out today, and be priced at $35 again tomorrow. (If history is any indication, it’ll drop on Friday or Saturday.)
If a family visiting this week spent $10,000 on the trip as a whole, I don’t think ~$85 extra is going to be the balking point for many of them. Now, what could happen is that those visiting any park that is not Magic Kingdom today end up feeling like Genie+ was a waste of money, and opt against purchasing it tomorrow or Thursday. (Again, if history is any indication, it won’t sell out later this week.)
But who knows. Maybe that added cost finally will be what results in enough families hitting their breaking point, and perhaps $35 will end up being the equilibrium price of sorts for Genie+ at Walt Disney World. My foolish hope is that it’ll be rejected outright at $35, and Disney won’t broach the $30 mark again. Given what we’ve seen thus far with Genie+ pricing, that feels like wishful thinking (if not fully delusional). I can hold out hope, though!
Long-term, the solution to all of this is building more attractions. Queueing is a zero-sum game. No approach to lines–not all standby, not paper FastPass, FastPass+ or Genie–changes capacity. The only meaningful way to alter the equation is by actually increasing capacity. That’s done by adding entertainment, attractions, or extending operating hours. Everything else is a matter of rearranging the deck chairs, and having different guests or demographics come out ahead or behind.
Here’s hoping that Bob Iger actually is serious about wanting to build big park expansions at Walt Disney World and Disneyland–and ones that have more than just a single E-Ticket and upcharge offerings. At the end of the day, capacity-adding additions are precisely what’s needed at Walt Disney World. Some fans salivate at the (fictional) prospect of a 5th gate, but what’s really needed is building out the existing parks so they don’t have this type of issue in the first place. (Despite significantly higher attendance, there’s a reason this isn’t as big of a problem at Magic Kingdom as the other 3 parks!)
If you have questions about the basics of using–or not using–the paid FastPass service, see our Guide to Genie+ at Walt Disney World & Lightning Lane FAQ for all of the foundational need-to-know info. This whole system is confusing and convoluted, so you might have a question or two-dozen. That answers all of the most common ones we’ve been receiving from readers.
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YOUR THOUGHTS
What do you think of Genie+ selling out at Walt Disney World today despite hitting a new record high price of $35? Disappointed that it’s happening, or do you see the upside from a lowered demand perspective? Thoughts on our perspective that demand for Genie+ will continue to be highest on the busiest/most expensive days? Any other considerations we failed to take into account or details we missed/got wrong? Will you purchase Genie+ or is $35+ after tax per day too expensive for you? Do you agree or disagree with my assessment? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
Hi Tom, can you tell if the addition of TRON has helped with ride capacity, or lack of it? It may be too early, and now with Splash closed for renovation, maybe not possible.
Hi and thank you for this write up. I really enjoy these reads. I just came back from Disney stating through 4/15. I found the genie+ cost significant as we have a family of 6 and the last time we were at Disney was with the fast pass system. The salt in the wound was the $25 lightning lane plus prices on top of the $35 each day. As this is our first Disney trip since the pandemic we bit the bullet. I would have been ok if the value represented the price, but it did not even allow us to experience everything we wanted. The ll slots were late or coming up unavailable even with constant refreshing. Finally we had several unhappy experiences. For example we had reservations at hoopty do for 6 and Peter Pan ll for 5-6. The attendant at would not let us in at 4:45 and actually suggested we canceled our $500 dinner reservation if we wanted to ride. My mind was blown that was the result of an extra $210/day for genie plus. I hope others fair better than we did, but I sense there is a shift in the quality and cost of the Disney experience and wonder if after everyone has their post pandemic fill they will consider other options in the future.
It was not very long ago you could book 3 fast passes a day, 4-6 weeks out you would get a welcome letter, magic bands, conf for the magic bus . Extra magic hours for all on site guests , package delivery. When got home a thank you letter and a nice picture.
Now ZERO.. NO MORE
I don’t hear anyone else mentioning this, so maybe it’s just me, but I used to love being able to pick Fast Pass rides months in advance of our trip. No HUNGER GAMES drama the morning of, where there is SO MUCH PRESSURE to get the rides you want. Fumble your phone and Sorry! The top rides are gone in seconds.
And now you can’t even purchase Genie+ in advance? So as the planner-in-chief, I will be up at midnight each day to purchase Genie+ (maybe) this November, and then at 6:55 am with my heart racing trying to score the rides we want and hoping I don’t have to decide between an ADR and a ride (that happened twice last trip).
I love Disney and am a DVC owner, but I really DREAD this HUNGER GAMES aspect of the trip. I would much prefer to front-load the planning and then enjoy my vacation. Yes, the price-gouging is getting insanely ridiculous too. As the kids get older, the thought of selling our DVC has crept into my mind, sadly.
Jennifer, I completely agree and can’t stand it. I feel like it was done to help the locals so they can decide to go at the last minute and still get fast passes. It’s definitely not helpful for the family vacationers.
Believe me, it wasn’t done to help the locals. We hate it as much, or even maybe more than the out of towners.
It was not very long ago you could book 3 fast passes a day, 4-6 weeks out you would get a welcome letter, magic bands, conf for the magic bus . Extra magic hours for all on site guests , package delivery. When got home a thank you letter and a nice picture.
Now ZERO.. NO MORE
Would we pay $35 (and more) for Genie+? You betcha, IF and ONLY IF they would go back to the old FastPass system of reserving up to 3 FP’s per day ahead of time. Having to be on my phone at 7AM and then all day long steals every last bit of my joy. We tried it in 2021 and ended up coming home early because we were that disappointed in the experience. We are AP’s and DVC owners and have loved decades of vacations at Disney World. But we came very close to saying good-bye after the last trip. We have decided to try again in May (without Genie+) to see if we can recapture the fun. Fingers crossed.
I didn’t see this before I posted but I 100% agree!
You hit the nail on the head Tom. I’m in the leisure industry. The average one week long family of four theme-park-based vacation including airfare, hotel, food, park tickets, transportation, and souvenirs, is about $10k. Nobody paying that type of money is going to hesitate to shell out a few bucks more for Genie+.
We just got back today from a 2 week trip to Florida to see my in-laws. We’re fortunate to not have to pay for a hotel, and we drive from CT instead of flying, so no airfare. We took our 2 sons (6 and 3)to MK on 4/10 and HS/Epcot on 4/12 and purchased Genie plus both days, so 2 days in the park cost us about $1700. My sons qualify for DAS due to ASD but we knew we needed to also get Genie plus to avoid more lines. It was disappointing that the price had increased so much from last year, but it would be impossible for us to visit without being able to avoid the lines. The kids absolutely love the rides and my 6 year old who has very limited speech happily exclaimed “I did Slinky Dog! I did it, mom” after riding it. Seeing their happiness made it worth it for us, but the price means we spend fewer days at the park and cram everything into the 2 days. If the price rose, we would probably still pay it only because waiting in long lines is currently not feasible. I was irritated though that the new feature of genie plus including your ride photos did not work once for us. We had to submit help forms and hopefully they can find the pictures. (We somehow ended up with 2 photos of other families though.) I said to my husband how it would really help lines at Epcot and HS if there were more rides. Even with the crowds, we were able to get on everything we wanted to both days. We did SeaWorld on 4/6 and it was a nightmare with crowds. The kids couldn’t handle it and we left early. We didn’t feel like that at Disney despite the crowds. It’s just too bad that it continues to get more expensive.
I’ll tell you what it’s done with us- it’s made us say ‘enough’. We are sick to the back teeth of being ripped off.
So we have a trip booked at Xmas, and then that is it.
The cost of WDW is getting crazy. Genie+ was supposed to be $15-25 and now is landing at $35.
I guess it will never end. Food is up and quantity is down too.
This simply solidifies my opinion that Disney now treats its customers merely as ATM machines, greedily not only charging for what used to be free, but price gouging whenever possible. Adding to that, the Genie+ system is impossibly complicated and buggy whereas the free Fast Pass system was simple and easy to use. I know I sound negative, but after so many prior visits, we’ve given up on Disney. Kind of sad to think we won’t be taking our new grandchildren to Disney World, but Disney has finally managed to lose us as long term customers and fans.
We have been going to WDW since 1989 with our 4 kids every few years
. .Then it was the grandkids, and 3 little ones who will be coming up to the right age. I have always loved our trips but considering the cost to value ratio, the complicated planning, additional price to actually get on the rides you already paid for , and the crowding , it becomes an ordeal and not a vacation.
It’s not so magical anymore and I don’t know if we’ll be back.
I saw the news yesterday afternoon about potentially Country Bears going away or being revamped in Magic Kingdom for a New Orleans Square reimagining and I immediately thought of you. “Oh, no, Tom’s going to be so upset!” I rushed over and no article. You’re so well written I feel like we’re friends, even though, hello, Internet. So in this time of potential sadness just know that someone was thinking of you.
Tom, do you think Genie+ prices will go back down to $15? I’m wondering if with the higher upper price, they’ll also raise the lowest price.
You mention families of 4. We are a family of 7 (mom, dad, 5 kids 14 and younger). Our February 2023 trip was $16k – tickets ($4500 just for those), lodging (rented DVC points for a 2 bedroom Villa), grocery delivery to supplement quick service, only two table service meals over 12 days. We got genie 4 days of our 9 day ticket. Thankfully we got most days for $15 and the last day was $18. We bought Rise at $18pp. FOP was $14pp.
Genie for us would have been an additional $140 per day if $35 was the new ‘normal. Four days of that is an additional $540. Ridiculous. Unfortunately the february trip was our last and final.
We can’t keep up as a large family. We instead booked a Royal Caribbean cruise and the entire cost with gratuities and taxes was less than what we paid JUST for the Disney tickets.
Could we afford Disney? Yes, and we did. Is it a good value? Heck no. There are so many other things we can do with the $16k that our February trip cost us.
I wonder how many other families have made this decision.
Thanks for sharing your experience and perspective! You raise a really good point, and I would imagine many other families have made a similar decision. The question is whether there’s an ample supply of people to ‘replace’ the visitors like you who are done. In the past couple of years, the answer has been yes.
Going forward, with pent-up demand exhausting itself, I wonder if the answer to that will change. I have a hard time believing that Walt Disney World will maintain their current momentum–it feels like something’s gotta give. (But I’ve thought that before.)
Completely agree with you J. Sadly Disney is making it very difficult for families from the UK (and elsewhere) to stay with them. For us as a family of 5 this will be the last we will be able to afford for the forseeable future. Not having Disney Dining in with the hotel costs has completely made this an almost impossible trip and now charging for Fast Pass? As much as we love staying on Disney property there is no financial incentive to stay with them any more and sadly it is just about affordability. So sad as we have enjoyed coming here with our family since 2008.
We also just returned from a week at WDW (April 1-8). Our extended family of 8 with kids & grandkids, bought Genie+ everyday for about $300, plus FOP & SDMR & Rise of the Resistance. We only got 2-3 rides from Genie+ unless we wanted to ride Dumbo or Alien Saucers over & over. We arrived at early entry everyday and rode 1-2 rides in that half hour, but then bogged down in the crowds. We paid extra because of all the money invested and to preserve our sanity from long lines, but we won’t do it again. As it was, the trip was a gift to our kids & grandkids because we knew they could never afford to take their own families for many years. Family travel from now on with be cruising or maybe Universal.
Amen, J! After we cancelled our 10 day stay at the Wilderness Lodge we booked at Universal Orlando. It was for less days, but their deluxe hotel was 40% less than the Wilderness Lodge AND included the Universal Express Pass, which gives you unlimited access to the express lane at almost all rides. Yes, Universal is not quite as good for the grandkids, since many of the rides are thrill rides, but the value gap between Universal and Disney is too big now. All our future Orlando trips (we live in Seattle) will now be to Universal or elsewhere, after 30 years of going to Disney World.
We have been going to WDW nearly annually since 2003, up to the pandemic hit. My husband and I went in November for 5 days for the first time since 2019, and had a good time, following Tom’s advice quite a lot. We are going again in Dec (the week before Christmas), taking our son, DIL, and 6yr grandson. The sheer amount of thought that has to go into the trip now is exhausting, and this is coming from someone who loves to plan. We have rented DVC points to save a few $$, but buying Genie+ may derail our budget, especially since costs will likely continue to rise. It leaves me jittery not knowing what it will cost – I planned $30pp but will it keep going up? We went in early Dec in 2015, and loved it then. We really wanted to share Christmastime at WDW with our grandson, but I just don’t know if it will be worth it. This trip will likely end up costing around $12K, and although we’ve been saving for it for years, we won’t do it again. And that makes me sad, since those trips with our young son were really wonderful, and we wanted to repeat that with our grandson.
When you refer to Easter crowds, is it typically the week before Easter or the one after that draws the big crowds? Or are they usually about the same? We like to visit Orlando during our spring break, but only when it does not coincide with Easter. Wondering which week(s) should be avoided.
The week leading up to Easter is almost always the busier of the two. That’s especially true in years like this, when Easter is later.
Next year might be a different story with Easter falling at the end of March, but I doubt it. The week before should still be significantly busier.
As always, thanks for your thorough and detailed commentary – I agree wholeheartedly!
Small caveat – as a family of 4, $36 per day (with taxes) for four people would be an extra $144 per day. For a 6 day pass, that’s an extra $864…and no longer a small expense added to an already massive ticket price. Adding extra for Tron, Guardians, 7 Dwarfs, RoR and FoP…you’re easily over $1,000. And while many like to sing the capitalistic tune of, “Well, what do you expect? More money gets you more stuff! You don’t HAVE to buy Genie+ or ILLs!”, I would disagree. Even going in August during lower crowds (teacher here), Genie+ was an absolute must for us, ESPECIALLY since all of our EPCOT days consisted of laying by the pool until 3, and heading to EPCOT after. If we hadn’t had Genie+, there would’ve been little to no chance for Ratatouille, Frozen or Test Track. :~( Little kids mean Rider Swap takes a good portion of your time…without Genie+, we’d accomplish next to nothing on those afternoons (even with all your great itineraries sans Genie+, little kids are a game changer.)
Even if you remove the opportunistic portion of Genie+ price-gouging, it’s still too complicated for the regular folks – people who’ve never heard of your blog or Molly at AllEars, grandparents who don’t have a smartphone, people in FL who randomly decide to go to WDW for the day – and that makes me sad. Do I know how to use it? Yup -thanks to you, research and a love of the mouse. But no one should need a 20 minute video to be able to have a good day at Disney with their family. And even then, there’s issues that require the Blue Umbrella CMs, or the random “Multiple Experiences” pass that appears…people don’t UNDERSTAND. And that’s where I’m starting to lose my love of the magic that I’ve had since my first trip at age 5 in 1988. Come onnnnnnn, Iger!
Multiple Experience passes aren’t random, and Molly left All Ears some time ago.
I absolutely have to chuckle that that’s what you took from my post. Does it matter if Molly is still with allears or not? The fact that she left last August doesn’t change the fact that she has existed for quite some time and her videos take people through how to work Genie+, does it?
And my verbiage “randomly showing up” refers to people who have no idea what a multiple experiences pass is, and how it seems to randomly show up and they have no clue what to do with it…they have no idea the ride went down at some point and they were issued this.
But…ya got me? Wowza.
You get a message when a ride goes down and your LL gets replaced by a MEP, and it’s pretty clear on Tip Board what it means. Your Molly info was 9 months out of date. But at least now you got the memo.
Your arrogance is astounding, and you clearly missed the entire point…which, after reading your responses, doesn’t come as a surprise. ♀️ I won’t be receiving any updates on replies because this was a hilariously pathetic waste of my time, but feel free to respond Glad we’ll never meet! Have a lovely night!
Tom, so sorry for such pettiness on your post. ♀️ Thank you for continuing to provide us with such great info!
Glad I was able to clear up your factual errors, and that we agree Tom provides great info. Have a magical day!
We spent one day (Easter Sunday) in Disney this trip. Went to universal the other days. We had a park hopper, started at DHS and took skyliner to Epcot. We bought Genie+ for our party of 6, and it was worth it for us to do the rides we wanted to do. We were able to rope drop Rise of the Resistance, and waited about an hour. Used Genie+ to get on Millennium Falcon, Toy Story Mania and Tower of Terror right after each other. Got Soarin’ and Spaceship Earth through Genie at Epcot. Waited in stand by for Remy- got lucky only waited 35 minutes(even though was posted 50 minutes). Did single rider test track got on in less than 10 minutes. And paid ILL for Guardians since that was a priority and I knew we wouldn’t be able to get into virtual line since Epcot was our 2nd park. Overall, for us we got to do everything we wanted and had a great day. Not sure we would’ve been able to do everything without Genie. Yes we spent some money but knowing we only had one day we wanted to get the most out of our day.
What did you actually spend to bypass the lines at Universal Studios? Perhaps it was WAY too expensive to skip those standby lines. The point I’m making is that the Genie+ service is an extreme bargain when compared to the Universal Express Pass, even though it’s not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.
Yu should not have to pay extra to get on a ride you already paid for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
We’ve been visiting WDW around 1-2x annually since our kids were 1 and 4. They’re now 10 and 13, so we’ve been at this for close to a decade. At this point, we’ve learned that when Disney shuffles the deck, we modify our strategy. This strategy now includes staying offsite in one of several new properties with our preferred hotel chain on cash or points and yes, buying Genie+. We have also learned to alternate park days with rest days, and since we are offsite, maximize our investment on park days by staying in the parks from open ‘til close so we don’t need to travel back and forth and waste time. We use ride-shares to get from place to place, eliminating the hassle and expense of rental cars, driving and parking.
With all that said, since I try to plan Disney as cost consciously as possible, I balked at the $149 extra for our family of 4 to upgrade to Genie+ yesterday. We spent yesterday (Friday, 4/7) at EPCOT and bought Genie+, and in my view it was absolutely, completely worth it for our family of 4. Yes, it’s irritating that we used to be accomplish this same line-skipping feat using FastPass+ for free in the past, but we tend to be last-minute travelers, and so we don’t always mind that while FastPass+ rewarded the early bird, Genie+ rewards the spendy bird.
Our first LL was Remy, which shut down during our return window, but we learned that when this happens, guests can use the LL at that or another LL attraction at any point during the day. This made us feel we came out ahead, as we had complete flexibility as to when to experience that attraction. For the others, we avoided *extremely* long waits (between 1-3 hours) at Soarin, Test Track and Remy, and were able to breeze through each in minutes. (Note we didn’t try to get all three: we all did Remy together while two us us did TT and two of us did Frozen – I don’t think we could have booked LLs for all 3 if we had wanted to, but that aligns with our preferences for attractions anyway so it works well for us). We also avoided shorter but not zero lines at Spaceship Earth and The Seas with Nemo & Friends. When the lines were shorter, my husband and son rode TT Standby twice, and never waited more than 30-45 minutes each time despite longer posted wait times.
In between attractions, despite the unusual for this time of year heat (90s, but nothing like when we have been in the past in summer), we enjoyed the Flower & Garden Festival food carts, attractions (the butterfly pavilion is a favorite), a boat ride across the lagoon, shopping in the countries and watching the (underwhelming but still fireworks temporary fireworks display from the bridge between UK and France) – it was a delightful day for us all and one of the best birthdays I’ve ever experienced.
For those who can afford it, I think Genie+ is worth every penny. Everything about it is irritating – the cost, being tethered to your phone much of the day, setting alarms to book every 2 hours, and the inability to really plan out the day – and breezing through those long, hot lines felt completely VIP and saved many hours that we could use to simply enjoy being in the park.
Hi Tom,
I enjoyed reading your well-reasoned analysis of the Genie+ price spike over spring break. I agree that most guests will pay the higher costs for the Genie+ line-skipping because they’ve already paid thousands and dollars for the trip. After a day when everyone is hot and sick of waiting in line, then the family will likely purchase Genie+ the following morning. However, I doubt many of those guests will return in the near future. I’m sure it will also be something that leaves a bit of a bitter taste after an already expensive week.
I do still love Disney and I hope Bob Iger will rectify these issues. A greater number of attractions will certainly increase capacity. There are a lot of fun things to do at the resorts, but perhaps increasing the number of free options for activities at the resorts (ex. character meet and greets or small shows) could help more guests decide to take a day off from the parks.
Wishing you a happy Easter!
Tomorrow (4/7) is our final day, and we’ll buy G+ just like we’ve done all week even though, as you’ve noted, it’s really only super helpful at MK. (We had a good run at HS overall Tuesday, but three headliners being down to start the day was absolutely brutal for wait times. Epcot today amounted to a $110 Remy pass, which was worth it for my sanity.) Regardless, though, I’m the guy — the sucker? — who is willing to do this because there’s just no viable way to enjoy this madness without spending money. This week has been very hot on top of very crowded, and that combo is just not conducive to anything magical. Spending money isn’t magical either, but if it means I can breathe during HEA or walk on Peter Pan (as I did during Extended Evening Hours at MK — an incredibly productive two hours) then I’ll cancel some ADRs and cut other things.
Get the electric parade back to DW and that will make it all worth the hassle and cost
Ha, yes! Spectromagic was the best!!
We were there for the return of HEA on Tuesday. Right smack in the middle of Main Street…even the sidewalks were standing room only. It was nothing short of completely insane…but the energy was off the charts. Cheers and tears all around us even before the show began. A guy in front of us proposed to his girlfriend as the music started. One of the best experiences I’ve ever had at a Disney park.