Star Wars Land v. Osborne Lights
Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge is an amazing addition to Walt Disney World, well worth the attraction and area closures in Hollywood Studios that were required to gain this land. It’s an objectively good trade-off, and going from Lights, Motors, Action to Rise of the Resistance is the best 1:1 attraction upgrade ever.
We love Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge and want to be abundantly clear about that up front. This is especially important given the number of people with an axe to grind against how Disney has handled the Star Wars franchise. Many of whom take that out on Galaxy’s Edge, and have pointed to its early stumbles as evidence of supposed failure and whatnot. That’s not our perspective on Star Wars Land, and this is not that type of post.
Rather, this is mostly ‘just for fun.’ It’s based on a couple of paragraphs we wrote a few years ago that recently caught our attention in our 10 Things We Miss at Disney World (That Could Come Back): “The jury is still out for us on a personal level as to whether Star Wars land will compensate for the loss of the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights.” Now that we’ve experienced Christmas both with Galaxy’s Edge and in addition to several without the Osborne Lights, we figured this is worth addressing…
There were nights we went to Disney’s Hollywood Studios for no other reason than the Osborne Lights, and we’d spend hours just standing back on the Streets of America. Even when it was wall-to-wall people, the Osborne Lights just oozed happiness. The convivial atmosphere and communal energy of the crowd actually enhanced the experience–you wanted to see the Osborne Lights with a crowd.
For us, this was really something special, as we detail further in our Celebrating the Osborne Lights post. Suffice to say, no other attraction closure has gotten me as choked up as I was on our last viewing of the Osborne Lights. I’d further add that National Treasure Baby Sinclair appeared in the Osborne Lights, but does not reprise his role in Galaxy’s Edge. That’s a big strike against the latter.
On a substantive attraction front, the before/after is quite the comparison. By the time Star Wars and Toy Story Lands were announced, the Streets of America area was in pretty sad shape. The Backlot Tour was already significantly truncated, Lights, Motors, Action was nothing special, and there wasn’t much else there. Even if we throw in Legend of Captain Jack Sparrow, not much of value was lost.
I’m not the biggest fan of Toy Story Land, but I’d trade all of that for Slinky Dog Dash alone. Meaning that everything Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge brought to the table is gravy. (Even though Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run isn’t perfect, both it and Rise of the Resistance are better than Slinky Dog Dash.)
The real question for us is whether as a land (or as lands, if we’re including both), Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge and Toy Story Land are places we’ll spend as much time as the Streets of America during November and December in the evenings when the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights is running.
It’s hardly an apples to apples comparison. One is open all day, every day whereas the other only runs at night during the Christmas season. However, it’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot this Christmas season. At first, I was hesitant to share these thoughts due to the nature of the comparison.
However, we still see countless “That’s a Wrap” Osborne Lights shirts from several years ago every Christmas season. They are literally the most common shirt we’ve spotted this Christmas after the holiday Spirit Jerseys. Seeing that constant reminder of the Osborne Lights made me decide to go for it with this post.
Judging by those shirts, I’m guessing many of you share our strong sentiments for the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights, so it’s something worth tackling–at least in a ‘just for fun’ comparison.
The land is far from perfect and could definitely use some kinetic and atmospheric additions, but we’ve thus far had a lot of fun spending time in Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge.
We enjoy wandering through the marketplace, looking at what’s new in the stalls, grabbing a Ronto Wrap or two (…or three!), popping into Dok-Ondar’s, and having dessert at Docking Bay 7.
We find it pretty easy to spend an hour or so in Galaxy’s Edge with each visit to Disney’s Hollywood Studios, and this is before we even get to the attractions. Keep in mind, this is after visiting Batuu dozens of times at this point. It is far and away the most inviting space at Disney’s Hollywood Studios.
For first-time guests, there’s even more to do. Trying Green & Blue Milk is a must-do and we highly recommend anyone looking for a splurge partake in the experience of Savi’s Workshop for Handbuilt Lightsabers. Other shops will similarly be more compelling to first-timers. (While we’re big fans of Savi’s Workshop, we don’t give the same enthusiastic endorsement to Droid Depot.)
Honestly, it’s been a bit since we’ve done Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run. In part because we did it so many times when it opened, and in part because the grunt work mission is a snooze. (I was secretly hoping there’d be a surprise drop of the “real” mission once Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker was released, but alas…)
Then there’s Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance, which has consumed an inordinate amount of our time since it opened. This has a ton of re-rideability, and is one of the very best attractions in all of Walt Disney World.
Of course, the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights was less about substance and more about being there. We could stand on the Streets of America for hours night in and night out simply soaking up the ambiance and people-watching.
The way the Osborne Lights brought smiles and awe to the faces of other guests was really a sight to behold. The joy was contagious–it was the embodiment of “holiday cheer.”
The closest Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge has to this is the walk-around characters and the way they spontaneously engage with guests for impromptu interactions. That’s a lot of fun to watch. Wandering around and letting the action unfold all around (usually watching rather than actively participating) is what we do most in Galaxy’s Edge.
The Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights had more warmth and (for us) sentimentality, but the small moments in Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge give it a similar repeatability. We’d still like more of this all in the new land, but what’s there is good.
Ultimately, we really wish we could have this both ways. It’d be great if Walt Disney World would find another quiet corner to do an impressive display of Christmas lights. The Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights cannot return (although they deny it, there’s reason to believe they’ve been relocated to Silver Dollar City’s “An Old Time Christmas” in Branson, Missouri).
Even simply transforming Muppet Courtyard/Grand Avenue into a brilliant, lights-dense area during the holiday season would be a nice compromise (and judging by traffic flow, this could totally be accomplished even with the entrance to Galaxy’s Edge right there).
However, if forced to choose one or the other, we’ll take Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. It will never hit the same emotional and sentimental high notes for us as the Osborne Lights, but there is a lot of depth, room for exploration, and tremendous year-round ambiance.
On top of that, Star Wars Land still has unrealized potential, and will hopefully only get better as time goes on. Much like how the Osborne Lights were iterated upon and improved, we’re optimistic that the same will hold true with Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge. We’ll always have the memories of Osborne Lights, and look forward to plenty more in Galaxy’s Edge. Of course, one quick and easy “win” for Galaxy’s Edge would be evicting Oga and making Baby Sinclair the new cantina proprietor. 😉
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Your Thoughts
Do you miss the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights? Are Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge and Toy Story Land (collectively) a superior replacement, or would you trade it all for the Osborne Lights to return? Do you agree or disagree with our commentary? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
I have been fascinated with a question that I am finding it difficult to answer. Maybe it’s because I am emotionally waiting for Mickey and Minnie runaway railway to open to answer it, but it’s eating away at me and I was wondering if it’s getting to you too.
Is Hollywood studios a great park now?
I loved the Osborne lights! I haven’t seen Toy Story land so have no opinion on that, but I’m not the least bit interested in Star Wars.
We loved Osborne Lights. We had seen it for several years walking through the backlot when the Golden Girls and the other houses were still around. There were cast members strolling and caroling. Then it changed to being more condensed but still absolutely gorgeous. We miss the Lights terribly, and don’t get me started on the missing Lights of Winter at EPCOT. There’s no reason for that wonderful display to be gone either.
Been going to WDW for 45 years, we know changes happen but always hoped they could find a place to have either one of them return,
I am indifferent about Star Wars/Toy Story Land vs Osborne/Lights Motors Action/Backlot Tour/Streets of America. Osborne was my favorite of the bunch but it was only available Christmas and I was skipping DHS far more when LMA/BT/SoA were still open. SWL/TSL will never compete with any of the Magic Kingdom lands (ex Frontierland) but it least they have rides and character greets. Too bad Osborne never appeared somewhere else at WDW.
Life Day will be a wonderful mess once they get around to trying it. Crazy lights, hodgepodge of different styles, and Santa Starros smuggling in some Coke Zero will make it worthwhile for me.
You joke, but part of me hopes that Disney actually brings Life Day into the fold via a series on Disney+ or something. Disney reviving the holiday via something new is probably the only way it ever would make an appearance in SWGE.
As a Disney newcomer, I did not get to experience these lights…and now i’m sad, very very sad. I love Christmas light displays, they really light up the night. Anyway, why can’t they move it over to Disney Springs? or create a “Christmas” themed resort that celebrates Christmas all year long and include this magical display of lights? Sounds way better than packing it all up never to see it again.
It’d be pure chaos at Disney Springs–which is already crowded during November and December–if they offered free “entertainment” like this.
Operationally, the Osborne Lights pretty much require (or would require) a large area within a (gated) park that wouldn’t cause congestion or impede traffic. The Streets of America fit the bill perfectly. Aside from like Rafiki’s Planet Watch (which is totally impractical for different reasons), I don’t see it working anywhere else at Walt Disney World.
I’m going to stick to “put it at a brand spanking new Christmas/holiday themed resort then and instead of the resort having a pond or lake, they have a great big Christmas lights display.
What a restful way to sleep, oh it’s so quiet, guess we’ll go to sleep, then the parks close and thousands line up to be bused to Christmasland resort creating mass noise and chaos… Ohhhhh, now I see where the problem is. 🙂 haha
We have not been to Hollywood studios since the Osbone Festival of lights left and Toy Story came in. We are not big fans of Toy Story or Star Wars. We loved the Festival of Lights. We hate crowds. My son finally got to ride Avatar. We had been to Animal Kingdom a couple years ago, but the crowds were so bad we left. In November, we went back and managed to do Pandora, but we went in at rope drop. We go to Epcot every trip. In August, we only went to Epcot. We will eventually get back to Hollywood studios to do Toy Story and Star Wars. We will probably be at Epcot for Festival of the Arts. Of course we preferred the lights. It said CHRISTMAS and like you, we could spend hours there. That was worth the crowds. You would think they could do a lights display somewhere in Animal Kingdom, considering its size.
osborne Festival of lights left and Toy Syory came in. We live in Florida and
Baby Sinclair was a wonderful addition to the window but you failed to mention the Old Man’s Leg Lamp in the background! I have a picture with an ABC Prep & Landing promo playing on the TV. I also seem to remember Charlie Brown or Wonderful Life showing on the TV over the years ….
And the yearly search for the Halloween Cat.
The Dessert Party was Disney realizing they weren’t making money off of this thing and needed to find someway to pay the light bill ….
I have talked to Cast Members that say that the lights were better when they were displayed on the back-lot streets (the “Golden Girls” house, etc.) but never saw that and can’t find any decent photos of it.
Give me the Lights (and Woody, Buzz, Bo and Jessie in their Christmas garb) and Christmas Time at Hollywood Studios would be much happier!
1) I’m not a fan of A Christmas Story. (I know, I know.)
2) I don’t think WDW needed a dessert party to monetize the Osborne Lights. Merchandise, drinks, PhotoPass, and even trips down just to see the lights all likely made it profitable. (Plus, it had a sponsor.) Disney never “needs” an excuse to add a dessert party to anything.
3) I only visited once while the Osborne Lights were on Residential Street, and I was too young to have an informed opinion about whether that was better. I’ve heard the same, but question whether it’s a matter of nostalgia.
Oh no, I don’t agree with this conclusion. Streets of America was atmospherically one of my favourite areas of WDW, period. It was on a different level to anything else at Disney. Osborne Lights were the cherry on the top.
I’d gladly accept the loss of SW:GE to get it back, and I’ve done both attractions in the land. Better yet would have been expanding DHS south and not giving up SOM before it was actually necessary 🙁
“Better yet would have been expanding DHS south and not giving up SOM before it was actually necessary”
Can’t disagree with you there!
I think the park is losing the STUDIOS atmosphere so let’s not force it anymore. I think they need to put DL Indy where the Indy show is and just get rid of the name studios. – Chicago passholder
When I was at WDW a few weeks ago, I was thinking Christmas almost doesnt feel complete anymore without the Osborne lights. But, I do like Star Wars land & I was very negative about its arrival, not being a star wars fan (I’m working on this, if I am to claim to be a Disney fanatic, I know), I am really impressed. And I personally adore Toy Story land. I do wish we could have both these new land additions, as well as the Osborne lights at least somewhere else on Disney property. It’s funny, when I clicked on the link to where the lights are (or are not, wink), in Branson, I thought for a minute, “I should go there to see them to get my fill of missing them”, but then I realized it wouldnt be the same & have that same feel to me as they had at HS. So yes, I miss the Osborne lights at WDW, but they were part of so many wonderful things that add to the magic of Christmas time at WDW, so thank you for this post, its helped me in my grieving the loss of the Osborne lights just a little! (But come on, please theres plenty of space to put them up somewhere)
Merry Christmas.
Disagree with you on two points.
1) Slinky Dog Dash is more fun than Smugglers Run in my, and my families opinions. For what it’s worth, my kids much prefer Star Tours to Smugglers Run. Smugglers Run just didn’t resonate for us. This is from a Toy Story land “hater”.
2) Blue and Green milk are not must try’s. I actually think they should give out samples and warn you before you plunk down some credits for one We ordered several of both flavors in a multi family group and no adult or kid found them fit for human consumption.
We loved the Osborne Lights and have no interest in Star Wars. Very sad that they eliminated the light show.
Just returned from WDW. I love the new Star Wars area but could care less about Toy Story Land. We really miss the Osborne lights. They were magical. I was greatly disappointed in the Christmas decorations at all the parks, and Hollywood Studios seemed the worst to me. I don’t think I will return during Christmastime again unless I hear they improve the decorating, that’s how disappointed I was.
Totally agree. We were there Dec 19 and would have rather seen the lights. It WAS magical and wondrous.
So, my year-long project of planning our recent and way too quick trip to WDW is over, and I’m having WDW withdrawal big-time. But, what’s wonderful is that in the process I discovered this blog, and will continue to regularly peruse it. I’ve also discovered Travel Caffeine, and have also gathered lots of info for our upcoming fall trip to the Grand Canyon and Yosemite. I’m also planning our next WDW trip for this summer, because, yes, it’s vital to my existence!
So, Tom and Sarah, Thank You for your time, travels, attention to detail, sense of humor and desire to share your experiences. May you both have a very Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2020!
Glad we could help you plan–Merry Christmas to you, too! 🙂
The Osborne Lights were magical and created warm happy feelings. So sad they were replaced with a cold bland boring land.
I saw the Osborne lights every year for the 20 year run. While visiting I would go to see them several times during my visit. I took the current wife for her first visit the last year they ran. We did the desert party and I had to stay till they shut everything down. My new wife didn’t really understand the nostalgia of the lights and what they meant to me. I was also sad to see them go, but I have 20 years of memories and some wonderful photos to.
I loved Streets of America and the Light show at Christmas……..daytime, nighttime……was of no importance, to me, in that nostalgic area of Hollywood Studios. I regret the loss and hate the replacement. For me, it’s that simple.
With all the changes Disney has made to multiple parks. You would have thought they could put some area or Cora door to another land that the Osborne lights could be displayed again as it was a wonderful and timeless Display!
Merry Christmas Tom!
2 things.
This was a great post and made me think about the old days of Disney. Thanks for writing this up and sharing
Also for the Christmas miracle can the forum come back? I miss the daily photos and a spot to ask random park questions.
“Also for the Christmas miracle can the forum come back? I miss the daily photos and a spot to ask random park questions.”
Unfortunately no–at least not anytime soon.
I really enjoyed the forums, but I was/am already stretched too thin, and I felt guilty about not being more of a presence in there. It’s tough to do this all, sorry!