TRON Lightcycle Run Problems for Larger Guests
TRON Lightcycle Run is now open at Magic Kingdom, and there have been issues with larger guests not fitting into the ride vehicles due to weight, height, and more. This post discusses what’s happening, how certain body sizes have had problems, and takeaways from our experiences with the roller coaster. (Updated December 7, 2023.)
Unfortunately, all of this was inevitable. TRON Lightcycle Run is unique in a number of ways, and unlike any other Walt Disney World attraction in terms of rules, restrictions, and accessibility. This was destined to be a hot topic of debate and complaints by fans, as the policies and protocol are more stringent than any other ride.
In our early coverage of Shanghai Disneyland, we repeatedly “shot down” the idea that TRON Lightcycle Power Run would ever be cloned to Walt Disney World or Disneyland. It was a common question and topic of speculation, and we thought there was no way it would ever happen because U.S. guests are far more diverse in height, weight, and age than their Chinese counterparts.
Additionally, even those who do fit that parameter might have trouble getting up if they have knee problems, arthritis, etc. There’s more to it than that, though. Not only is the way you enter the ride vehicle for TRON Lightcycle Run awkward, but it’s also done quickly. This is a short-duration roller coaster, and it dispatches frequently. This means that the turnaround is fast, and there isn’t a ton of time to tinker around at load.
Even as someone with what’s probably closer to an Asian body type than an American one, I remember feeling rushed. Getting situated wasn’t easy, and the clock was also ticking on getting your wallet and phone into the little compartment. We don’t have a single good selfie from the load platform of TRON Lightcycle Run as a result of this, despite riding repeatedly and attempting several times. At Shanghai Disneyland, it became common for Cast Members to identify Westerners and direct them to the “American” cars.
Against that backdrop, let’s turn to the problems for larger guests at TRON Lightcycle Run in Magic Kingdom. Many guests are being ‘rejected’ from the regular ride vehicles, and sent to a special line for the accessible LightRunner trains, which are essentially standard lap bar style roller coaster seating.
One early report stated that anyone “above a size 14 in pants” probably won’t fit on the ride’s Lightcycle-style seating. Others indicated that TRON Lightcycle Run is more restrictive than any other attraction at Walt Disney World, and claimed that if there’s any other ride that gives you weight or height problems, you definitely won’t be able to do the Lightcycle-style seats. By these accounts, it’s been a tron-wreck for larger guests. That’s probably an embellishment on just how bad of a problem this actually is.
For our part, we’ve seen and heard guests get rejected from the cycle seats at TRON Lightcycle Run, and we’ve also noticed longer waits for the standard seating. The good news is that it appears this is improving as of Christmas 2023. TRON Lightcycle Run has now been operating for several months, and Cast Members have gotten more comfortable loading guests into TRON Lightcycle Run.
This always happens. It last occurred with Avatar Flight of Passage at Animal Kingdom. That attraction opened a year after the original TRON coaster, and rebuffed the notion that Walt Disney World wouldn’t use bike-style seating for an attraction.
There were also widespread reports of larger guests being unable to ride Avatar Flight of Passage during that attraction’s previews. Walt Disney World fans started worrying on social media, as it seemed like there was about a 50/50 chance of not fitting in the “link chair” that simulates riding on the back of a banshee. I recall reading that some chambers had half of their guests have to walk off in shame due the restraints not locking.
It doesn’t make what those preview guests endured any less sad, but accessibility with Flight of Passage improved exponentially in a matter of weeks. Tweaks were made and Cast Members got better at assisting guests load into the link chairs throughout the course of the previews.
To be sure, Avatar Flight of Passage can still have issues, but it is not rejecting 50% of all guests–or a number anywhere close to that–now that it’s been open for several years. In fairness, there’s also a strong chance that word has gotten out, and ‘borderline’ guests have learned to either check the test seat or not bother at all. Consequently, this problem is likely less visible and prominent because guests are self-selecting and opting out. Just because we don’t see something doesn’t mean it’s not still a problem.
It’s almost certainly a similar story with TRON Lightcycle Run. The roller coaster has now been open for over 6 months, and we’re noticing these problems less and less. However, at the same time, a new sign (pictured above) went up a couple months ago–long after the ride officially opened–warning that “the seating and restraints on this attraction may prohibit Guests of certain body shapes or sizes from riding. Please try the seat to confirm your ability to ride.”
Honestly, it’s a bit surprising this sign wasn’t up from the very beginning–it’s not like this issue blindsided Walt Disney World. Regardless, a sign like that isn’t put up at random in Late 2023. It was done for a reason–because guests are still having issues and TRON Lightcycle Run isn’t 100% (or even close to it) accommodating.
For those who are curious as to how it differs from other attractions, TRON Lightcycle Run uses ride vehicles that are unique for a roller coaster in Walt Disney World, but restraint system is actually quite comparable to Avatar Flight of Passage. Both attractions have restraints that come up and secure the guest’s back and calves.
The restraints and rider positioning is not identical on TRON Lightcyle Run, but it’s very similar. There’s a calf restraint that swings around into place to secure the legs and one that folds up against the back. This system is somewhat dynamic; guests of varying heights and weights will find different ways to position their bodies to allow the restraints to lock.
The rider angle is also not the same between TRON Lightcycle Run and Avatar Flight of Passage. The latter is like a leisurely bicycle ride, whereas the former is like an aerodynamic motorcycle, if that makes sense. If it doesn’t, you’re going to have a lower profile–almost in the prone position.
The TRON Lightcycle Run ride vehicles are cumbersome to enter the first time. There’s a bit of a learning curve, which is odd for a Walt Disney World attraction. They’re also quite comfortable once you’re properly in place; the way your body “hugs” the Lightcycle is a big part of the appeal of the ride. If at all possible, this is the way you want to experience TRON Lightcycle Run–it’s going to fall flat in a regular roller coaster ride vehicle.
With the comparison to Avatar Flight of Passage, the inevitable question is going to be whether guests who fit on that will also be okay on TRON Lightcycle Run. I think it would be irresponsible to offer a unilateral answer to that, potentially setting people up for disappointment. The bottom line is that the restraint systems are similar but different, and we’ve heard reports over the years about puzzling problems with guests on Avatar Flight of Passage who should have been able to ride based on their height and weight “on paper.”
There’s no magic number to weight or height when it comes to riding TRON Lightcycle Run. Rather, it’s about the distribution of weight across your frame, as well as the size of your calves. It won’t be uncommon for lean, tall, and muscular guests to have issues. (Consider this a good excuse to skip legs day at the gym before your next Walt Disney World trip–don’t want to get too jacked for TRON!)
In other words, being rejected from TRON Lightcycle Run is not exclusively an issue for “Pooh-sized” people. To the contrary, you could be shredded like Schwarzenegger and also be sidelined.
This brings us to another takeaway worth emphasizing: do not simply draw conclusions based on numbers you’re hearing. Some guests who are 200 pounds may have problems, whereas others who are over 300 pounds may not. It’s possible that people who are 5’10” will have issues, whereas someone who is 6’3″ may not.
There’s not a straightforward weight or height “limit.” It’s a combination of the individual’s frame, and how they’re able to quickly adjust and situate themselves in the Lightcycle-style seating. It’s entirely possible that two people with identical body types could have different experiences with riding or not being able to ride.
To this point, we strongly recommend using the test seat outside TRON Lightcycle Run. This isn’t just a good way of seeing if you fit–you can also practice and, in some cases, improve your chances of success. Seriously.
As noted above, there’s a learning curve. Even as someone with a more average and flexible body, it wasn’t simple and straightforward for me the first time. This won’t work for everyone, but for guests who are “borderline,” a bit of practice can make all the difference.
Trying out that test seat and figuring out which seating ‘pose’ works best for you won’t be conclusive confirmation that you’ll be able to do the Lightcycle-style ride vehicles, but it could help. Another thing that’ll help is being singularly focused on boarding the attraction and getting yourself snug against the bike. Difficult as it might be, don’t prioritize selfies or whatever.
Since TRON Lightcycle Run is a roller coaster that quickly dispatches, there’s not going to be same time or margin for error in getting guests properly situated as there is with Avatar Flight of Passage. Cast Members at the load station will get better about accommodating more guests, but it probably won’t ever be as accessible as Flight of Passage.
With that said, the big advantage over Avatar Flight of Passage is the aforementioned LightRunner ride vehicle, which is the accessible ride vehicle on TRON Lightycycle Run. Guests who cannot fit in the Lightcycle or who want or need a ride vehicle that doesn’t require crouching down will be able to use this. It’s essentially a standard roller coaster car and has a regular ole lap bar, like you might find on the other Magic Kingdom Mountain Range roller coasters.
The problem with this–and what I find absolutely confounding–is that not every TRON Lightcycle Run roller coaster train has one of these. Given the wider range of American body types coupled with older guests (I cannot imagine my dad, for example, being able to ride TRON Lightcycle Run in the bike seats), I’m shocked that they didn’t equip every single train with some of the standard seats. That’s probably the biggest mistake here.
Although Walt Disney World doesn’t have a perfect track record with being accommodative, but they’re stellar by theme park standards, and that includes TRON Lightcycle Run. The procedures here will continue improve over time. Hopefully, that also means many more guests being able to fit into the Lightcycle ride vehicles.
Nevertheless, all of this is frustrating. It seems like the last several years have seen a proliferation in unaccommodating attractions without adequate alternatives. While I don’t think 100% accessibility is realistic, it’s also odd to me that both Disney and Universal are seemingly okay excluding a not-insignificant number of visitors.
To be sure, there are larger conversations about societal health, but none of those are particularly relevant here. If visitors are guests, hospitality should be a goal. Avoiding situations like this that exclude sizable portions of the audience, and have a propensity to do so in an embarrassing way, should be prioritized. Guest demographics are what they are, and that should be front-of-mind when designing rides and choosing clones.
This is a conversation that has been revived of late thanks to Mario Kart at Universal Studios Hollywood. (For whatever it’s worth, I think the Mario Kart controversy is overblown–it’s definitely an issue, but all of the clickbait articles are based on the published limitations, which are overly conservative.) Before this, it was an issue with the Secret Life of Pets: Off the Leash, which we consider one of the best dark rides of all time.
That slow-moving dark ride being exclusionary makes even less sense than a roller coaster that obtains so much of its personality and ride profile from the unique Lightcycle seating. Universal fans have defended the approach as part of the company’s “100% containment” policy, which is intended to prevent anyone from “escaping” the ride vehicle.
While safety is certainly an important goal, there’s gotta be a balance. This strikes me as a solution in search of a problem–it’s not as if people are falling out of Peter Pan’s Flight left and right–and excluding so much of the core demographic is ridiculous. You can’t simply handwave that away by using “safety” as a shield, as if that’s the ultimate trump card that shuts down the conversation. Other similar attractions exist without such restrictions and with safe track records. But I digress.
Ultimately, there are issues with guests of larger sizes–due to weight, height, or stunningly swoll calves–not being able to ride TRON Lightcycle Run via the bike-style ride vehicles. That was always going to be a problem, and is the nature of the beast with this roller coaster’s seating arrangement. Unlike some of the hyperbole on social media, this is not Disney attempting to “fat shame” guests.
Rather, at least some of this was and is unavoidable with TRON Lightcycle Run. So much of the attraction’s unique personality and sense of exhilaration are a direct result of the Lightcycles and the way they position guests. Remove those, and this roller coaster is very ordinary–just a shorter and less intense version of Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster that took several more years to build.
With all of that said, things will improve over time. In the grand scheme of things, it’s still very early, but modifications have already been made and more will occur. Additionally, Cast Members working load/unload will be able to better finesse the process. You can also improve your own odds of success by practicing with the TRON Lightcycle Run test car. Silly as that might sound, it really could help!
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YOUR THOUGHTS
Have you had the chance to ride TRON Lightcycle Run? If so and you had issues with your body type, care to share your experience, tips & tricks, or anything else? What do you think of TRON Lightcycle Run? Any questions? Hearing your feedback about your experiences is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts or questions below in the comments! Keep the comments civil, as this is not the place for arguing about health, antagonism, personal attacks, or cheap shots.
I have been denied rides at Universal (the Harry Potter ones) in the past, so I approached this vacation a bit hesitantly. This week I just did make it onto the Harry Potter rides and thought I’d give Tron a chance. I’m 5’3”, size 20, chunky legs, and have worn wide calf boots all my life. The first time I tried the test car, I freaked out and said it’d never work. My friend who is proportioned just like me tried and it worked, so I got back on it and moved my calves a little higher (and put boobs over the midsection part instead of having them be squished in) and I fit fine. I decided to go for it. When I got to the actual ride, I squeezed myself in pretty hard (harder than I needed to) and had a wonderful time. Today my ribs are sore. I never realized there was a standard lap bar option until I got all the way down to the car itself. I couldn’t believe I fit. My advice is to just try it!
I can ride any ride at Universal, even the 2 with leg/shin restraints and ride FoP just fine. I can’t ride Tron, I can’t get calf bar to lock in place. even when I tried to move leg as far forward as I could. My legs carry my weight, so I was surprised to ride FoP and not Tron.
It’s all about the CALF’S!!!
I am a plus plus sized guy that fits into Avatar (snugly). I carry my weight in the mid section. The back restraint is not the issue. It’s the calf’s. I watch people bigger than me ride the cycle and others who easily weighed less be forced to the accessible vehicle. More flexibility in the leg restraint would open the Lightcycles to a significantly higher portion of the guests. It’s a good ride, but it’s a great ride…if you can use the Lightcycle. With all the brain power at Imagineering I would like to think a safe effective way to allow more calf flexibility is within their ability!
PSA from a plus size lady, if you’re not too tall I’ve found for me sitting with my knee above the leg-pad helps me fit since the leg restraints hit my calves at a slimmer point. The restraints still lock in perfectly. It is slightly uncomfortable, but the ride’s so short I don’t mind.
We’ve ridden Tron twice this past June, and my husband wasn’t able to fit on the cycle both times and had to ride in the standard roller coaster seat. He’s only 5’5, a little overweight but the problem is the size of his calves. One of his calves is swollen from lymphedema, not huge but larger than a man his size. That’s the problem, and is an issue on Flight of Passage also. What’s odd is on FOP the leg restraint doesn’t even touch the back of my leg. So if you’re calves are larger, be prepared to possibly be rejected.
I successfully road on the Tron ride in Shanghai and again in Orlando in July. As a person who is tall, above a size 12, over 200 lbs and travels with my larger child who is 6’3”, I have found that if you enter confidentially and quickly, you will not get rejected. This ride is so much fun and I suggest giving it a try even if you are a little king sized.
My son is young shy and is lovingly referred to as a baby giant. To avoid any discomfort or embarrassment we practiced getting on and off the sample ride cycles repeatedly before riding the actual ride. I think this practice is key to successfully boarding the ride.
Headed to Orlando in February. My oldest son and wife are excited to try Tron but my younger guy is nervous and I think it’s possible I won’t fit- I’m 6’2 twofiddy. I guess I’ll try the test vehicle first.
I wouldn’t count on not fitting. Definitely, try the test vehicle which is nearly at the entrance to the “show box” well past the start of the outdoor queue. I’m 6’6” and 340lbs and I was able to fit without any issues. My weight is distributed more to my upper body (broad shoulders, thick chest and belly, thinner legs and hips). The first time I road, I tried the test vehicle and the cast member that was stationed there gave me some tips that helped. My feet extend outside the “rear tire” of the bike to give my shins room to fit and allow my knees to move all the way forward. This ride doesn’t clamp on your calves the way Avatar FOP does, it has a bar that comes out from the “motor” area of the bike and lands behind your knee/thigh area, and a plate that comes down over your back. This plate was my main concern due to my build (thick torso) but turned out to never be an issue. I’ve now ridden 4 different times and have never had an issue with riding.
I’m still pretty surprised as many people have problems as they say. I’m 6’3″, 260lbs…large calves (though not huge), 40″ waist and wear a 50L jacket (barrel chested), and I fit with no issues at all.
Strength through Conformity is part of the culture over at Shanghai Disneyland. Florida is a different story, full of “Florida Man” style fantasies of personal reinvention. At least Cast Members are getting more accustomed to dealing with the reality of what they are seeing.
I usually wear a size 18 jeans and I carry my weight through my butt, hips and thighs and I was able to ride the lightcycles, but it was snug. I used the test seat and had no issues, but it was much more difficult when it was time to actually get on the ride. The cast member was extremely helpful in telling me how to adjust my foot to relax my legs. I personally think that Flight of Passage is much more forgiving and much more comfortable for people that are larger.
My husband did not fit on Flight of Passage, so he went in knowing that he most likely wouldn’t fit on Tron. His issue was with his calves. We had bought an ILL for FOP, and the lovely cast member at Guest Services went above and beyond “to make it right.” He did try out the seat before going on Tron, and did have to ride in the lap bar one. Our daughter (8) rode with him and actually preferred the lap bar. He said it was better the second time riding, but the first ride in the lap bar seat was very underwhelming to him.
Can confirm calves are a vital predictor. If you have ever had trouble fitting downhill ski boots because you have wide calves, try the tester bike first. I have a very short knee to ankle ratio carrying bulk in calves. Was still fun in the lap at car, but wish I’d saved my ILL money today.
I’m a 5 foot plus size girl and I’ve never had any problems with other rides so I was surprised that I couldn’t ride the Tron motorcycles. I will
say that the Disney employee who was loading people, was very kind and spent a few minutes having me adjust my position on the bike trying to make it work.
I just rode it with guests of a wide range of sizes and it was fine! I think this is mostly overblown.
I just picture that poor young man who was allowed to ride that ride in Orlando improperly-restrained with tragic results. There will always be human error of varying degrees. Hopefully most guests will use common sense and gauge risk vs reward.
Ugh. This is not a problem for me – my 5’7 self does fit! But ….. my 6’5 husband and my 6’4 daughter and her 6’7 fiancee cannot ride Flight of Passage or Dwarf mine train. Too Tall. My 6’3 son can ride, but he is very uncomfortable. They can ride Space Mountain and Rock-n-Roll coaster but only in the front seat of a carriage – that extra inch of leg room is crucial. American’s are getting taller and, overall, bigger. Why make the ride vehicles less and less accessible? At least Tron will have an “expanded body sized option unlike FoP.
My husband is 6’5 290lbs and doesn’t have any problems riding any of those rides. It really does depend on each individual persons body. It is all about how to position yourself in the ride vehicle.
It looks amazing. I hope they fix this issue so i can go on a Tron Lightcycle power run.