My Day Using Lightning Lanes at Magic Kingdom
Magic Kingdom is the best park for buying Genie+ at Walt Disney World, something that’s true even during peak season 2022 dates. To confirm this, I tested my strategy on what I thought would be a 10/10 crowd level weekend (spoiler: it wasn’t) to see how much could accomplish using Lightning Lanes to skip standby lines.
This photo report walks you through my step-by-step day using paid FastPass, with my Lightning Lane selections & return times, ride reservation screenshots, what I accomplished, and thoughts at the end about whether Genie+ is worth the money at Magic Kingdom. It also includes strategy and other useful advice, plus plenty of useless and random commentary.
This day in Magic Kingdom came after Walt Disney World moved Individual Lightning Lane attractions to Genie+ through August 7, 2022. Theoretically, that should improve the quality of the Genie+ experience, adding availability, and (maybe) how many standard Lightning Lane selections you can score in a day. This is least noticeable at Magic Kingdom, which already had a solid attraction lineup for Genie+ even before shifting Space Mountain over.
As quick background for those who are unfamiliar with it, Walt Disney World’s new Genie+ line-skipping service is the permanent replacement to free FastPass+ for select attractions in each park. Genie+ costs $16 per person per day and excludes the most popular ride per park. It’s a basically a digital version of the paper FastPass system from the “old days.”
For more info and answers to common questions, see our Guide to Genie+ at Walt Disney World & Lightning Lane FAQ. We’ve already updated that several times, and it’s a great jumping off point if you’re confused, overwhelmed…or fully understand the system, but want some next-level strategy to better leverage Genie+.
As noted at the top, my “goal” was to do this on a 10/10 crowd level day at Magic Kingdom (or at least a 9/10). I assumed it would happen given crowds the previous weekend, and the fact that closing had been extended by 2 hours, until 11 pm. As discussed in our March 2022 Crowd Calendar, Walt Disney World added a significant number of hours this week for reasons we couldn’t explain, but their internal forecasts presumably supported the strong move.
As it turned out, they were wrong. Not that I’m personally complaining about moderate crowds or anything, but they are less helpful when I try to do step-by-step walkthroughs like this. Suffice to say, you might not be able to reproduce my results the week of Orange County’s Spring Break or Easter. But you should be able to come pretty close.
Anyway, let’s move along to my day using Genie+ and Lightning Lanes at Magic Kingdom…
Starting at 6:55 am, I bought Genie+ in the My Disney Experience app, customized my Tip Board for strategic advantage (see below), and browsed around in Genie to see if anything had changed. I’ve done this enough that it’s second nature, and I can now breeze through this entire process in about 2 minutes.
At 7:00:00 am, I refreshed the Tip Board. IÂ saw Jungle Cruise with a return time of 9:00 am to 10:00 am, but what I got was a start time of 9:35 am.
There was a bit of lag on the confirmation screen, which I assume was the culprit. Still not a bad result, but not my best work. I’m just thankful I didn’t get an error message, as I’ve been seeing those more when tinkering around with Genie+ lately.
By 7:01 am, the clock had already advanced to 2:35 pm for Jungle Cruise. This should underscore just why we highly recommend following our Speed Strategy for Genie+ Selections.
Being able to book a second Lightning Lane attraction at Magic Kingdom before 11 am is important, because that’s the first possible time anyone subject to the 120 minute rule–which is many savvy guests–will be able to make another Genie+ ride reservation. Even though it’s a far longer window, not many people are booking between ~7:10 am and 10:59 am. Return times tend to move slower during that time frame.
One thing to note is that if you’re already seeing a return time this late…just wait. Like mischievous monkeys operating a turntable, the clock will “spin around” on them–meaning that you’ll see morning times if you just wait a bit.
In any case, Jungle Cruise remains #1 on our Magic Kingdom Genie+ Priorities & Lightning Lane Ride Ranks, even after the addition of Space Mountain and with Splash Mountain rising in popularity as the weather improves.
As with the recent My Day Using Genie+ Lightning Lanes in Peak Crowds at Disney’s Hollywood Studios, I’m largely going to leave the “regular” part of our day out of this.
That’s in part because I was only strategizing when it came to Lightning Lanes, so unless you want to do the PeopleMover multiple times, it’s not practical planning advice. It’s also in part because it is really easy to backfill your non-Genie+ day at Magic Kingdom thanks to the abundance of low or no wait shows and other attractions. (There’s also the fact that I didn’t take diligent notes and can’t account for a lot of our time that isn’t covered by screenshots or photo timestamps. Oops.)
My next selection was Splash Mountain.
Based on average daily wait times for March 2022, I should’ve chosen Peter Pan’s Flight. However, it only has a slight edge over Splash Mountain (75 minute v. 74 minute wait), and Splash Mountain had a much earlier return time–and one that was <120 minutes. That made it the subjectively superior pick here.
Following that, I opted for Space Mountain.
The discrepancy better this and Peter Pan’s Flight is greater (75 v. 60 minutes), making that Fantasyland classic a better pick, all else being equal. Peter Pan’s Flight did have a much later return time, but that shouldn’t have matter since both were beyond 120 minutes. (In other words, all else was equal.)
As such, Space Mountain was an objectively poor pick here.
However, I wanted something more immediate and indoors during the middle of the day, and was very confident Peter Pan’s Flight would still be around 120 minutes later. If you’re visiting on a peak season day, swap these two.
As expected, Peter Pan’s Flight did have availability 120 minutes later.
When my window first opened, its return time was ~8 to 9 pm. I didn’t really want that slot, as wait times elsewhere would be dropping by then. Figuring the clock would roll over, I gave it a couple of minutes. Sure enough, I was able to score 5:45 pm to 6:45 pm.
Haunted Mansion was my next pick, and literally the exact same scenario played out there.
Return times were originally after 7 pm. I waited a couple minutes, and got 4:45 pm to 5:45 pm.
Lightning Lanes are now available to See Mickey at Town Square Theater, See Princess Tiana and a Visiting Princess at Princess Fairytale Hall, and See Cinderella and a Visiting Princess at Princess Fairytale Hall.
However, we did the first two of these with under 10 minute waits via standby (which also allowed both of us to do them). Mickey still doesn’t have a PhotoPass photographer, the lighting remains uneven, and it’s still a sighting rather than a traditional meet & greet. It’s thus not much of a surprise most guests aren’t interested.
Given the recent end of the indoor face mask rule, plus the entirety of the Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser experience being normal, it’s likely we’ll soon see other awkwardly-modified entertainment and character interactions return to normal. At least, that’s our hope.
At this point, I had a pretty good afternoon at Magic Kingdom lined up.
These three Lightning Lanes alone would save me over 3 hours as compared to posted wait times (which are inflated, but the point still stands). Add to that my morning stops at Jungle Cruise and Splash Mountain, and that time-savings is already up to around 5 hours.
Next up was Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.
I was really excited to see this appear when I refreshed, with a return time of 5 pm (!!!) at 4:47 pm. I quickly clicked through, and didn’t notice the time jumped to 6:50 pm to 7:50 pm. This was really annoying, and I’ll reiterate here my position that My Disney Experience should place a ‘temporary hold’ on cancelled Lightning Lane reservations (what this must’ve been) once they’re in your “cart.”
Adding insult to injury, there was no way to cancel my Big Thunder Mountain Railroad ride reservation and book something else with a more immediate return. For whatever reason, attempting to ‘manage details’ of my selection just took me to the normal attraction page.
This often happens when the window for a Lightning Lane reservation has yet to open. I’m not sure if there’s somewhere else in the clunky Genie interface to cancel, but if so, I couldn’t locate it.
On a positive note, I lucked out with a stoppage on Peter Pan’s Flight while perfectly positioned flying over London.
I was able to brace my camera against the ride vehicle and use a very slow shutter speed to capture the cleanest shot I’ve ever gotten on Peter Pan’s Flight. (Not really relevant to the topic at hand, but it was a highlight of my day!)
This wasn’t the only problem I had with Genie+ at Magic Kingdom.
There also were a couple of occasions when the app told me I wasn’t eligible to book another Lightning Lane selection, even after the time had passed. In the above case, it started working 1 minute later. In other instances, I’ve had it take up to 5 minutes to register my eligibility. Also frustrating.
Once eligible, I was able to score a quick return time for Pirates of the Caribbean, which seems to be about par for the course.
Even when POTC is posting 45 to 60 minute wait times (as it was this evening), it has abundant availability for Genie+ Lightning Lanes. This seemed to be the case with FastPass+, too.
Same deal with Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin.
Got this Lightning Lane reservation at 7:20 pm with a return time only 10 minutes later. The posted wait time was 35 minutes.
My return for “it’s a small world” was only 5 minutes later despite that attraction posting a 45 minute wait time.
It’s difficult to gauge accuracy now that Lightning Lanes are in use, but “it’s a small world” has seen its wait times spike recently.
My evening ended with the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
I could’ve knocked out many other attractions instead with near-immediate return times, but most of these were either also walk-ons via the standby line (e.g. Little Mermaid dark ride, Dumbo) or things I had no desire to do (e.g. Barnstormer, Magic Carpets). I’m almost positive I could’ve booked those all had I been a bit more aggressive and wanted to “prove” that I could do everything via Genie+ at Magic Kingdom in a day.
We didn’t stay until the bitter end of the night, but here’s a look at posted wait times 5 minutes before park closing.
The vast majority of attractions would’ve been walk-ons at this point. Our experience with Seven Dwarfs Mine Train in the last ~6 months is that actual waits are, at most, one-third of posted wait times at the end of the night. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the wait time at SDMT was 10 minutes or less when Magic Kingdom closed for the night.
Ultimately, I ended up using Genie+ to secure 10 Lightning Lane selections during this day at Magic Kingdom, and could have scored at least another 5, but they would’ve been largely useless. It was a moderately busy day, but not too bad and the combination of manageable crowds and long hours really made my job easy here.
Based on posted wait times at my return times, I saved around 550 minutes with those 10 ride reservations. Even if 2-3 hours were knocked off that due to the disparity between posted v. actual wait times at Walt Disney World, I still would’ve saved at least 6 hours of waiting in line. Given the $16 cost, that’s less than $3 per hour, making Genie+ easily “worth it” at Magic Kingdom in terms of the time v. money cost calculus.
Genie+ is not great every day in every park at Walt Disney World. It can save you a lot of time in Disney’s Hollywood Studios, but also be very stressful. It may not offer much benefit at all in Epcot and Animal Kingdom. The one park where it is consistently worthwhile is Magic Kingdom. Not only will it save you a lot of time waiting (unless the crowd level is 4/10 or lower…but how often does that happen anymore?!), but it’s not stressful and requires less screen time. Even dealing with a few glitches, I had a pretty easy go of it.
With the other three parks, the argument could be made that a strong itinerary, arriving for rope drop (or for Early Entry) and staying until park closing would yield similar or superior results. I’d personally rather utilize savvy strategy in those parks than just Genie+. That’s not true with Magic Kingdom. The sheer number of attractions and easy availability of mid-tier and above Lightning Lanes makes it the clear-cut winner.
If I were looking to court controversy, I might even take this a step further and say that Genie+ is the best ride reservation system that has ever been offered at Magic Kingdom, surpassing its FastPass predecessors even taking into consideration its cost. I’m not the kind to stir the honey pot (I’ll leave that to Pooh), so I won’t say that, but I wouldn’t disagree if someone else were to say it.
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Your Thoughts
Thoughts on my day in Magic Kingdom using the Genie+ service after the Spring Break 2022 Lightning Lane changes? Are you planning on buying Genie+ or sticking to free standby lines? Do you agree or disagree with my assessment that Genie+ is the best ride reservation system ever at Magic Kingdom? Any questions we can help you answer? Hearing your feedback–even when you disagree with us–is both interesting to us and helpful to other readers, so please share your thoughts below in the comments!
Theoretically, if you’re lucky enough to book a LL reservation for a 9:30-10:30 time slot and you tap in at 9:45, then you’d be able to book your next LL after tapping in, correct (and not have to wait until 11 AM)?
One question as I have read all the tips and tricks for Genie + and Lightning Lane – you mentioned HS being the park where trying to LL Rise and G+ SDD, you need 2 folks to get the family on both. is this the same with Epcot (RRA LL and Test Track G+) or Magic Kingdom (7DMT LL and Space Mountain G+).
thanks for all the articles and help in planning this vacation from Iowa on spring break!
In 10/10 crowds, if you want an early morning return time for both the ILL and G+, it is good to have 2 people on 2 devices.
But if you aren’t concerned with super early return times, or it’s not 10/10 crowds, you have enough time to book them one after the other.
For example, at Epcot — I’d book Test Track first. At 7:01, you should still be able to get a late morning / early afternoon ILL for Remy.
I think Magic Kingdom is a good demonstration at how Genie+ COULD be superior to FP+…
It desperately needs:
– Improved interface and fix the glitches
-Ability to “lock the time” once in the cart.
-Easier ability to modify/cancel/change reservations
Certainly, and this isn’t just a Genie+ issue — you need more attractions outside of MK. Switching to only 1 paid LL per park helps a little. But still not enough attractions, especially at Animal Kingdom
And this will really be stirring the pot — The argument can be made that it should be more expensive and/or limited Genie+ sold per day. The problem with FP+ was largely that the parks did not have enough capacity to give EVERYONE 3 REAL FPs per day, particularly in high crowds. At “only” $16, especially in high crowds, a majority of people are buying the system. If everyone buys Genie+, then we are back to there not being enough capacity to make it anything more than a frustrating experience that can save you time on a couple of rides.
They can organically limit Genie+ purchases by increasing the price (particularly in high crowds), or they can simply cap sales. During 10/10 crowds, don’t allow same-day purchase of Genie+. Or even more extreme, cap how many Genie+ subscriptions are sold to off-site guests.
In a 10/10 day at MK, which I experienced President’s week, there is no way you would get that many high caliber passes. I ended up with G+ for Town Square Mickey, Dumbo, Little Mermaid, as the choices by the afternoon. (Yes, I did get Haunted Mansion and Big Thunder Mountain earlier).
“Walt Disney World added a significant number of hours this week for reasons we couldn’t explain, but their internal forecasts presumably supported the strong move.”
If you mean the past week, it was Mardi Gras week, right? While that historically hasn’t driven crowds, last year’s cancellation of New Orleans celebrations drove an attendance spike at WDW I haven’t heard of in 40 years. One the one hand, this year had a resumption of events in the French Quarter; on the other hand, January and February crowds are a good indicator that near future crowds are going to be elevated over recent years. Better to plan for larger crowds that don’t show up than be unprepared if they do.
If you mean the current week … I can’t even guess. With a late Easter, there’s no reason to expect Spring Break season to start before St. Patrick’s Day.
The current week.
Hours were extended for this week before last week (Mardi Gras) or next week (OC spring break).
I think Genie+ might be good for those who are tech savvy and spend a lot of time trying to figure out Genie+. For me though, I hate having to get up before 7AM on vacation and have to rush to make ride reservations. Our experience with Genie+ during our January trip because of multiple problems was terrible. It was to say the least the vacation from hell.
I wrote to Disney Guest Services when we returned home but have yet to hear from them.
This post hints at something that was semi-surprising to me when I used Genie+ for the first time in early February: Using it can actually be kind of fun. Figuring out how to game the system was a rush and both days I used it I ended up having three attractions stacked at least once. I felt like I was as adept with FP+ as I could be but there was just never any way to score as many Fastpasses in a day as we did LL’s-per-day last month.
I expected to like Early Entry more than I did – it seems to have officially killed any remaining calm atmosphere in the mornings – but man, just setting alarms on my phone for every two hours so I don’t forget to book the next ride? Almost as good as the days of being the designated FP runner.
This is exactly what I like to hear, I am coming next week and have always been the FP planner or trip guru on “gaming the system”. Hoping to navigate crazy crowds and winning the day for the family. I’ve done my homework and ready to go. Quick question, do you need to have 2 people for a family of 5 reserve LL and G+ for parks other than HS to accomplish the big ticket rides (Remy’s and Test Track, or 7DMT and Space Mountain)
Dan, Tom would know better than me but I’m guessing none of the individual lightning lanes besides ROTR sell fast enough to necessitate doubling up at 7AM. If you’re splitting your group and wanting to book different regular Genie+ things at 7AM, then yeah, you might want to double up with a partner.
Highly recommend Genie +, just there early March and it saved us considerable time once we got the hang of it. Speed post and 1-day itineraries were extremely helpful. Our experience was that the 120 minutes was the driving force at Magic Kingdom. Even when we checked in twice our LL wouldn’t reset until the 120 minutes went by. We also missed out on the 9-11am reservation for some reason which was very annoying (made a reservation at 7am and could make next until 11 at MK). However at DAK our LL reservations did seem to reset after checking in on some rides.
One thing we weren’t prepared for was the difference between the posted time and the actual time because of the lag and reservation volume. We missed out on a ride because I didn’t jump on a popular ride that jumped several hours after the posted time and mistakenly went backwards.
Tom, I saw two families using multiple phones to book LL at 7am in the hotel. I’d be interested to know how they used My Disney app and party size to make multiple LL reservations at one time. Between the two of them they booked at least 4-5 rides successively right at 7 and had about 5 cell phones in front of them.
There isn’s a 9-11 am time slot. The 120 minute rule kicks in at 2 hours after park opening, not 2 hours after 7am. So if your first reservation is made before park opening, you can make your second reservation at 120 minutes after park opening (assuming you haven’t tapped in yet). I hope that makes sense.
YYC mom – Theoretically, if you’re lucky enough to book a LL reservation for a 9:30-10:30 time slot and you tap in at 9:45, then you’d be able to book your next LL after tapping in, correct (and not have to wait until 11 AM)?
Magic kingdom was our hopping to park so by that time we arrived there really weren’t lightning lanes available. I had one or two booked for after two but we found the whole thing rather useless on our trip the first week of March. We didn’t even use it for one ride at HS on one of the days because ToT and MMRRw were both down most of the day. We couldn’t get RotR at 7 am and we just did single rider on MFSR. We still had fun. We got into Oga’s.
I appreciate your Peter Pan picture! That’s been my favorite part of that ride since I was a kid 🙂
Thanks–glad you enjoyed it!
Have you tried using Genie+ on a busy day with a group of 4-6 people? It seems so worthwhile with 1 person, but if you are bringing a group, it seems like availability would be trickier and the ratio of cost to hours saved could get unwieldy pretty fast. I wonder if there is a point at which the size of your group might make it not worth the extra cost.
Group size doesn’t matter aside from scoring a random cancellation, which almost never happens.
Genie+ is not like an ADR–you’re not filling a specific size ride vehicle at a specific time. This is just an hourly capacity game. Makes no difference whether you have a part of 1 or 100.
Genie+ is better for us than FastPass at Magic Kingdom. (Including cost considerations.)
It has subtly changed our touring norms. We used to rope drop, use our booked FastPasses between 10am-2pm and then take a pool break before park hopping in the evening. Now, the 10am-2pm time is the toughest time to get Lightning Lanes. So we just avoid it altogether. Our norm now is: rope drop, get a Lightning Lane or two, eat lunch at 10:30am and then head for a looooong pool break, stacking up four PM Lightning Lanes post 3pm, and adding more as we tour in the evening. It’s delicious.
Don’t know how summer weather patterns would impact this schedule, but for now it’s fantastic.
I totally understand why people don’t like the wild card element Genie+ throws in your planning. It helps that we don’t do ADRs.
That’s a good way to handle it. For similar reasons, it’s good for Park Hopping to DHS in the evening when starting elsewhere in the morning.
What a lot of uber-planners (overrepresented relative to the park-going public on sites like this) don’t realize is that there are a ton of park guests who either don’t want to plan in advance or don’t realize it’s a core component of the Walt Disney World experience. The parks received TONS of complaints in the FastPass+ era, and understandably so, who would assume without knowing that you schedule rides 30/60 days in advance? (In fact, a very common complaint about FP+ when it debuted was exactly this–funny how that became beloved over time.)
Our trip is coming up soon. Not the week of Orange County Spring Break, but the following week. We’re planning to do 2 split days between MK and EPCOT. I’m still working on my strategy.
Day 1 (predicted to be 10/10 crowds), I’m planning to rope drop Frontierland and get LL for Pirates and Haunted Mansion plus at least 1 mid-tier ride. After that, begin booking for EPCOT. I’m expecting Test Track and Frozen to be all gone, but think I can probably get Soarin’ and Spaceship Earth, which should get our evening off to a good start.
Day 2, we’ll start at EPCOT, so if I can get Test Track or Frozen early, I’ll do that. And then begin stacking rides for MK later, starting with Jungle Cruise and Peter Pan. We’ll stay a bit later, so hopefully the ride lines will die down a bit in the evening. We were planning to be there for extended hours, but now that the extended hours are going to be starting at 11pm, I don’t think we’ll make it that late. So I hope the ride lines aren’t too bad around 8-10pm.
If you have access to Early Entry, I would STRONGLY recommend that at Epcot. I’ll have a post soon, but that’s more efficient than Genie+ right now.
Thanks for the rundown! I’m having a hard time understanding which of these LL you were able to book because you “tapped” in and rode the ride, and which you were able to book because of the 120 minute rule. It seems like there is a mix of both going on here, which is why at one point you had 3 LL stacked up. That kind of detail would be really helpful in these “play-by-play” posts so we can know how to be this effective!
Agree with your comments Emily, I was trying to follow the timestamps but got a little confused. Basically, you can book another LL either once you’ve redeemed a LL reservation, or after 120 minutes has passed, correct? Whichever comes first?
Good call. I’ll keep that in mind for future Genie+ reports and update this accordingly when I have time.
I think I was in MK the day before and had similar experience with G+, it does work well there if you don’t mind paying up. There are also enough “filler” rides and shows to stay busy in between headliners.
Just returned from a 12 day trip and ended up using G+ nearly every day, where I had only planned to used it for the first 3-4 days. Fortunately I could do that, but it seems unreasonable that the alternative is suffering through 1-3 hours lines in the other parks. We took full advantage of early entry and late hours too.
What makes me pull my hair out are the little random glitches like you mention. So many times the clock was off or it showed we couldn’t get a return time yet when we should have been able to, or I got the 7am start warning well after 7am. I can’t believe Disney hasn’t fixed that stuff yet, its embarrassingly bad. Got my post-visit survey today and there was a section on G+ and LLs so I of course shared my honest feedback. Has no one from the design team tried using this in the parks yet?
“Has no one from the design team tried using this in the parks yet?”
They’re well aware of its many problems. Some problems are a matter of time and resources, or lack thereof. Others…I’m not sure why they haven’t been fixed.
Thanks for your work! I used Genie+ last December, and couldn’t understand why there was no availability for hours on rides I wanted – your refresh tip I will use next time. I did book Jungle Cruise right at 7 am, and got on early.
What were you thinking in that picture? It looks like you were mad you couldn’t get off that ride fast enough! 🙂
“What were you thinking in that picture?”
I was trying to look like a cool tough guy, but in a dorky way. I didn’t turn out very well, and yet, it’s still the best on-ride photo I have from the day!
Oh, just realized that Seven Dwarves is in a different category. Paid separately. Gotta shell more bucks out for it. So dumb. Miss fastpass.
Did I miss reading about Seven Dwarves Mine Train? Wondering about your success with that.
I agree, how would your strategy have changed if you were trying to get on Seven Dwarves Mine Train as well? Visiting first week of April after a 5 year break so all this is new to me.
Thanks.
Thank you so much for all the work you do in the parks to give these strategies and insights into how to use Genie+. It has been 10 months since I have been able to go to Disney and I’m just dying to go to try out this feature. Your detailed information is going to be quite helpful when I get to make it. I enjoy following all of your adventures and appreciate your sacrifices! 🙂
Threw down the gauntlet at the end there. I’ve never used Genie+, but after reading your reports re: using it at MK I could see how you could make a good case for it being superior to previous offerings. Where the wheels fall off for me is excluding certain attractions and having the ILLs. ILL’s make me dislike Genie+ (an irrational amount). Sure, ILL’s might technically be a separate service offering, but they are all part of the ride reservation suite at Magic Kingdom. As long as ILLs exist separate from Genie+, I can’t see myself coming around.
It wasn’t a10/10? 6?7? Are any people masking, Tom?
Just there 3 days ago. No one masking in the parks except cast members. Masking required on all transportation (no one cared on the ferry) and airport early March.